Underground Casinos Is it Happening?

[aioc]

You really can't stop gamblers, gambling is like smoking and drinking they have an itch that they cannot get over with and these gambling casinos knows all about it, and there's a possibility that they are secretly holding gambling sessions, they can bride the police so they can go on with their business, they will not stop making a profit from gamblers, it's a give and takes between them.

[bitgolden]

You really can't stop gamblers, gambling is like smoking and drinking they have an itch that they cannot get over with and these gambling casinos knows all about it, and there's a possibility that they are secretly holding gambling sessions, they can bride the police so they can go on with their business, they will not stop making a profit from gamblers, it's a give and takes between them.

Yes, I just wonder why gamblers are not understanding about the government regulations like the government is providing guidelines only for the welfare of them and they will not be getting any benefit by locking them down within their home. Some governments already started relaxing the restrictions of lockdown and this could be the most anticipated announcement for gamblers because now they do not need to breach any regulations.

The urge of gambling must be the reason why people go for gambling even with underground casinos. There should be double the risk like they may get infected by covid19 and if they caught by authorities that may lead to legal punishments as well. Still, we do see people are risking just for the reason of gambling addictions. The urge of gambling may induce people to do anything, that is the thing we are learning here.

[LbtalkL]

I guess so, Human is known for disobedience they will always find a way, I saw a thread here in gambling he witness it himself some casinos are open in their country for some reason. And for sure there are casinos haven't known in public just in shadows or just operating underground. Here in my country, I heard the news some people are caught playing some cards (Maybe poker) inside a house maybe they are bored or they really missed gambling even if they risk their lives.

[Darker45]

The biggest problem at hand is COVID-19. The reason why casinos are ordered to temporarily shut down is that it could become a way for the virus to spread more quickly. And when the spread of the virus reaches a point of beyond control, people will die, the economy will die, and probably the government, too.

Many respected doctors in my country have come out with the view that the danger of coronavirus is exaggerated. In fact, it is a type of flu virus. Its mortality rate is comparable to that of the flu. Therefore, doctors say that tuberculosis, rotavirus and so on are much more dangerous, and many more people die from them. However, this is not reported in the media, so there is no such panic as from the coronavirus.

Many respected doctors in my country have died due to COVID. It is a type of flu virus which is a world more contagious and has no vaccine nor medicine. In a matter of months, the infection has reached more than 5 million worldwide. TB and rotavirus are well-known and have effective medications. There is no need to panic over something which is already understood by health experts. There is no need to broadcast to the media what has been discussed over and over again and whose related data can be accessed easily.

This is just a matter of prioritization. And while all these measures against the spread of the virus are being implemented, other measures to curb illegal gambling and gambling abuses are also in place. They are not abandoned for the sake of fighting the virus. These measures are not competing against each other.

Based on what I wrote above, I personally believe that the danger from illegal casinos is higher and they need to be fought no worse than the coronavirus.

Quite frankly, I find this funny. If this is the direct result to your mindset because of what the respected doctors in your country tell you, you better do some introspection and perhaps take a look at the data. Las Vegas Mayor Goodman's logic looks much better than this.

[kotajikikox]

You really can't stop gamblers, gambling is like smoking and drinking they have an itch that they cannot get over with and these gambling casinos knows all about it, and there's a possibility that they are secretly holding gambling sessions, they can bride the police so they can go on with their business, they will not stop making a profit from gamblers, it's a give and takes between them.

Yes, I just wonder why gamblers are not understanding about the government regulations like the government is providing guidelines only for the welfare of them and they will not be getting any benefit by locking them down within their home. Some governments already started relaxing the restrictions of lockdown and this could be the most anticipated announcement for gamblers because now they do not need to breach any regulations.

Actually this is the problem because the Relaxation will bring another opportunity in the spreading of virus.

we have seen that in countries like China and Korea when they lifted the lockdown and people starts going around as if nothing happens ,so the second wave comes again and they are facing the pandemic once more.

The urge of gambling must be the reason why people go for gambling even with underground casinos.

the call of Addiction and Greediness is the reason why they are eager to play even without following the law.

 There should be double the risk like they may get infected by covid19 and if they caught by authorities that may lead to legal punishments as well. Still, we do see people are risking just for the reason of gambling addictions. The urge of gambling may induce people to do anything, that is the thing we are learning here.

Let them suffer both,to acquire the virus and to be put in Jail since they have no care at all but the gambling only.

[michellee]

Actually this is the problem because the Relaxation will bring another opportunity in the spreading of virus.

we have seen that in countries like China and Korea when they lifted the lockdown and people starts going around as if nothing happens ,so the second wave comes again and they are facing the pandemic once more.

I wonder how long the second pandemic will end as in the first time of the pandemic, that country needs more than 3 months to lockdown.

But let's hope that they know how to treat the pandemic since they already experienced from the first time. I hope that they don't go to the underground casino before the pandemic is really gone because this is a serious matter in their country.

[btc78]

I wonder how long the second pandemic will end as in the first time of the pandemic, that country needs more than 3 months to lockdown.

That's what frustrating in this part because China had already made i think 3 months lockdown yet the second wave happens again and start spreading.

This is the problem if people don't pay attention to the situation and don't follow preventive measures after being allow to go out from Quarantine.

But let's hope that they know how to treat the pandemic since they already experienced from the first time. I hope that they don't go to the underground casino before the pandemic is really gone because this is a serious matter in their country.

Of course because they already almost defeated the rfirst wave so they can easily maintain that accuracy of fighting this Virus.

[peter0425]

We don't know, maybe there are already in operations without any announcements

Do you think they will announced this operation when it is underground and surely not allowed by the government?common man are you serious about what you are saying here?

this is illegal so for sure they will secretly invite regular gamblers to play with them.

That's why I've said, we don't know and no announcements. I don't understand why you have to say that. If you're living in a country that's too conservative and strict in their government rules, do you think that these operators will still continue if their lives is at stake if they've found out to be pushing this. And you cut what I've said that it's just allowed for those players that's been playing with them for a long time and probably has been treated as vip.

well you have a POint there mate and i missed that part and yeah we are living in different kind of government so things are different from each other.

But it can also be a no if most of the casinos in that specific country are law-abiding and follows the regulations that's being applied in this time. Although, I'm sure that many of them are asking for a special permit to get back and operate again.

Lol Gambling operators cares about law because we are talking Big money here.and they can just pay those corrupt officials to let them operate secretly .

It's a different case for those countries that governs with strict rules but yeah, money talks and it's happening.

in that part we both agreed Buddy,because 'Money Speaks Louder" than anything specially when illegal activities are involved

[michellee]

I wonder how long the second pandemic will end as in the first time of the pandemic, that country needs more than 3 months to lockdown.

That's what frustrating in this part because China had already made i think 3 months lockdown yet the second wave happens again and start spreading.

This is the problem if people don't pay attention to the situation and don't follow preventive measures after being allow to go out from Quarantine.

But let's hope that they know how to treat the pandemic since they already experienced from the first time. I hope that they don't go to the underground casino before the pandemic is really gone because this is a serious matter in their country.

Of course because they already almost defeated the rfirst wave so they can easily maintain that accuracy of fighting this Virus.

I think in this time, they will restrict the rule with hard, and they will give a punishment for people who don't follow the rule. They need to limit people access to go out and don't let them underestimate the virus so they can solve the problem forever. I hope that the second wave will not become bigger as they might know how to protect their people based on their experience before.

[iv4n]

You can't run a criminal organization (anything illegal, in this case underground casino) without governments help! A place without limitations, without questions, you come with money and you just gamble, nobody asks you about where you got your money, nobody will ask you where you wish payout, it's all cash (without trace, without any tax). That's not new, especially for big towns! You can find some underground casino in some private house in some village, but mostly underground casinos are in big towns, where you have big population, and people of any kind!

[leea-1334]

You really can't stop gamblers, gambling is like smoking and drinking they have an itch that they cannot get over with and these gambling casinos knows all about it, and there's a possibility that they are secretly holding gambling sessions, they can bride the police so they can go on with their business, they will not stop making a profit from gamblers, it's a give and takes between them.

It is not just gambling. Basically it is human nature to do something people say you cannot do. Look at teenagers we were all there,,, no smoke, we smoke. No sleeping past 8, we sleep past 8. Lockdown shows nature of people too. Who cares about going out before but now you say you have to stay home,,, everybody wants to go out!

Regulations are the only way:)

[sunsilk]

well you have a POint there mate and i missed that part and yeah we are living in different kind of government so things are different from each other.

And out of boredom, there will be some gamblers that will do everything just to get back into it and whatever they can to just satisfy the crave to gamble again. It may sound odd but that's really happening and not just for gambling but in almost everything.

in that part we both agreed Buddy,because 'Money Speaks Louder" than anything specially when illegal activities are involved

Just like what we see in films, it happens in real life.

Who cares about going out before but now you say you have to stay home,,, everybody wants to go out!

Because of the crave and the combination of boredom, this is what makes the other gamblers have that desire of going out.

[KTChampions]

You can't run a criminal organization (anything illegal, in this case underground casino) without governments help! A place without limitations, without questions, you come with money and you just gamble, nobody asks you about where you got your money, nobody will ask you where you wish payout, it's all cash (without trace, without any tax). That's not new, especially for big towns! You can find some underground casino in some private house in some village, but mostly underground casinos are in big towns, where you have big population, and people of any kind!

I think that highroll gamblers play in villas, but this is more a club "for friends" than an illegal casino. As for clandestine casinos in big cities, of course they work under the control of the local police (corrupt) since information about such a casino sooner or later becomes generally known.

[imstillthebest]

You really can't stop gamblers, gambling is like smoking and drinking they have an itch that they cannot get over with and these gambling casinos knows all about it, and there's a possibility that they are secretly holding gambling sessions, they can bride the police so they can go on with their business, they will not stop making a profit from gamblers, it's a give and takes between them.

It is not just gambling. Basically it is human nature to do something people say you cannot do. Look at teenagers we were all there,,, no smoke, we smoke. No sleeping past 8, we sleep past 8. Lockdown shows nature of people too. Who cares about going out before but now you say you have to stay home,,, everybody wants to go out!

Regulations are the only way:)

well depends on the people .  i never smoke ever since i was a kid , also i can follow rules in related to lockdown/covid  .also what can regulations do to stop addicted people  ?  afaik regulations tackles different issue but not to stop people from doing what they want   .  underground casinos despite of the lockdown era must be stop  , im talking about the offline or the actual casino that we saw outside because this can also make the spread worse  because people will attend to it secretly

[Sanitough]

You can't run a criminal organization (anything illegal, in this case underground casino) without governments help! A place without limitations, without questions, you come with money and you just gamble, nobody asks you about where you got your money, nobody will ask you where you wish payout, it's all cash (without trace, without any tax). That's not new, especially for big towns! You can find some underground casino in some private house in some village, but mostly underground casinos are in big towns, where you have big population, and people of any kind!

I think that highroll gamblers play in villas, but this is more a club "for friends" than an illegal casino. As for clandestine casinos in big cities, of course they work under the control of the local police (corrupt) since information about such a casino sooner or later becomes generally known.

Probably that's how the business works, if you like to keep operated, you need to give some protection money so the police would not touch your business, and I think some casino operators would prefer to operate illegally as they can minimize their expenses compared to paying taxes to the government when they choose to be a legal entity. 

[iTradeChips]

I would not really going to call it underground casinos. They are obviously more like the illegal type of gambling joints and gambling joints not regulated by local or national government. There are already many of these kinds of shady places even before the pandemic. So it is not really a matter of asking whether they are existent or not, but rather if they can operate now and be able to sustain any form of profit with lower patronage compared to pre pandemic times.

[Falconer]

Probably that's how the business works, if you like to keep operated, you need to give some protection money so the police would not touch your business, and I think some casino operators would prefer to operate illegally as they can minimize their expenses compared to paying taxes to the government when they choose to be a legal entity. 

If the police smell suspicion of hiding underground casinos to avoid paying taxes and continue to operate illegally during a pandemic lockdown, then they will get severe penalties because of the threat of multiple sentences. I think a group of gambling addicts is still operating, but only a small casino is only for maintaining gambling in its identity.

[onrise]

You really can't stop gamblers, gambling is like smoking and drinking they have an itch that they cannot get over with and these gambling casinos knows all about it, and there's a possibility that they are secretly holding gambling sessions, they can bride the police so they can go on with their business, they will not stop making a profit from gamblers, it's a give and takes between them.

Considering this pandemic situation in order of safety it is essential to understand that putting the life on risk would not be the real outcome one would like to have it. Also, I guess only addicted ones would be going or would like to go to gamble rest of them can manage even without gambling for a while if they are not used to this online gambling.

[Lanatsa]

You really can't stop gamblers, gambling is like smoking and drinking they have an itch that they cannot get over with and these gambling casinos knows all about it, and there's a possibility that they are secretly holding gambling sessions, they can bride the police so they can go on with their business, they will not stop making a profit from gamblers, it's a give and takes between them.

It is not just gambling. Basically it is human nature to do something people say you cannot do. Look at teenagers we were all there,,, no smoke, we smoke. No sleeping past 8, we sleep past 8. Lockdown shows nature of people too. Who cares about going out before but now you say you have to stay home,,, everybody wants to go out!

Regulations are the only way:)

well depends on the people .  i never smoke ever since i was a kid , also i can follow rules in related to lockdown/covid  .also what can regulations do to stop addicted people  ?  afaik regulations tackles different issue but not to stop people from doing what they want   .  underground casinos despite of the lockdown era must be stop  , im talking about the offline or the actual casino that we saw outside because this can also make the spread worse  because people will attend to it secretly

Legal physical casinos now had already been closed at the moment that's why some of them are already appealing that they would need to operate because it would really kill out their business if this one would took too long but theres no other choice but to abide with the law or else they would face up legal issues.We cant say that theres no underground places out there since there are really people who do look to gamble in spite of the situation, stopping or locking them? Its impossible because they are operating illegally which means its unlikely for them to be known or detected unless if its leaked out.

[KTChampions]

I think that highroll gamblers play in villas, but this is more a club "for friends" than an illegal casino. As for clandestine casinos in big cities, of course they work under the control of the local police (corrupt) since information about such a casino sooner or later becomes generally known.

Probably that's how the business works, if you like to keep operated, you need to give some protection money so the police would not touch your business, and I think some casino operators would prefer to operate illegally as they can minimize their expenses compared to paying taxes to the government when they choose to be a legal entity. 

This is true in uncivilized/corrupt countries. And it's hard to call a business. Rather, it is a criminal activity - and it is very fragile. Since this is an illegal business, there is no protection from the law, there are no property rights, etc. I would not mess with such things. Even as a simple player - there are no guarantees that they will give me a big win in such an institution.