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May 22, 2020, 08:30:33 AM
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I think most gamblers think and cares about their privacy and anonymity, that is why most gamblers hates submitting and filling up KYC for them protect their own personal information and data. It is the reason why i am so picky in gambling sites, so i could play gambling more safely and secured without any worries about hacking and identity theft.

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May 22, 2020, 08:32:59 AM
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this is a theme that generates only very different positions, for example people are in the crypto world to escape government control and many casinos say that they do not ask their customers to do KYC, what I see Is that when a casino customer wins but from 30 BTC the casino asks the customer to do kyc, it has these cases in the acam accusation section. My question that I always have was:

if the casino has no license, why ask the customer who won more than 30 BTC to do KYC?

the casino's argument has always been that it has a curacao license, but they forget that when the customer opened the account and made a deposit the casino did not ask the customer to do kyc.

this has been the biggest problem with online casinos, which is why talking about privacy while online casinos constantly ask their customers to do KYC whenever the customer wins a lot of bitcoin is a subject that is far from reaching any consensus

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May 22, 2020, 08:34:08 AM
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if im not mistaken i think i saw a kind of survey like this before and i read that many gamblers do like to be anonymous while playing a gambling  . that could also be the reason why they are here playing with cryptos than on fiat because some things that are related to cryptos are anonymous while some still request for your names and other private infos.  for me i just  play traditionally like signing up a bit and provide name , email , etc as long as the site is legit
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May 22, 2020, 09:11:04 AM
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if im not mistaken i think i saw a kind of survey like this before and i read that many gamblers do like to be anonymous while playing a gambling  . that could also be the reason why they are here playing with cryptos than on fiat because some things that are related to cryptos are anonymous while some still request for your names and other private infos.  for me i just  play traditionally like signing up a bit and provide name , email , etc as long as the site is legit
The reason for the development of online casino is for convenience and by far anonymity has always been the thing that the Internet caters. Of course these people want the aasurance that they are anonymous, that is the reason that they are gambling, we can always play at physical casino but I think that it is evident to online gamblers why they want to play online, well most of them do want the privacy so I could be wrong. The reason for playing with complete anonymity besides the fact that they can be targeted when they win big is that most of them are ashamed of what people will think of them, this stigma that we put on people are making things worse, this worsens someone's addiction, instead of people knowing that someone gamble, the anonymity that online gambling offers becomes a safe haven for people that wants to get out of the ever prejudiced eyes of the masses.

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May 22, 2020, 09:15:41 AM
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[1] Maybe you are referring to Scam Accusations board not Scam Assumption.  Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

[2] Legit online casinos will not require KYC even if the player wins big time.
[1] Yeh, same.

[2] Really? one of the greatest cases i have been seen from some big player.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106313.0

Cloudbet with an anonymous service, still asking an ID + KYC from his customer withholding around 330 BTC. The luck things, he got the bitcoin after a few trying to asking some help to all bitcointalk users. From this case, I thinking casinos and other things will always be required KYC no matter he has a service anonymous service, etc.

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May 22, 2020, 10:25:27 AM
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Of course I as an online gambling player prioritizes privacy and anonymity, therefore I am looking for online gambling websites without
KYC procedure. For me personal data is valuable, therefore privacy and anonymity are important to me. My favorite online gambling
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May 22, 2020, 10:32:27 AM
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777Coin the sister company of Bitvest deserves to be in the spot also, they are very reputable, they have been here for a long time and they have a very active signature campaign here in Bitcointalk, gamblers favor anonymous gambling so expect to see this as the trend and many gambling with the same features coming out.
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May 22, 2020, 01:34:39 PM
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I am constantly gambling in different sites listed in the forum but I always choose a gambling site that values anonymity, though there are some condition  that a user will have to undergo a KYC compliance if it breaks a certain rules or a certain amount of withdrawal is big that requires some KYC compliance but I never face this kind of requirement, because first I don't gamble much and I don't break the rules of a certain gambling sites.

so I value my privacy and anonymity 100%.

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Last edit: May 22, 2020, 04:16:21 PM by Yogee
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As I was expecting, the consensus is everyone prefers to play on KYC less platforms but there's a few willing to compromise provided that it is a licensed online casino.

I wonder what level of information are you willing to provide?
- email?
- phone number?
- identification card?
- passport?


What Darkdays said kind of bugs me.
If you look at the terms and conditions of most gambling sites (even crypto ones), you will find that almost all will have a clause that allows them to request identity verification from any user.

Normally they will only do this under very particular circumstances though, e.g. if they're suspected of money laundering or manipulating the system.

Obviously requesting KYC from a user is extremely bad PR, so you can understand why these platforms would be hesitant to do it.

That said, there are some benefits to the practice, and most casinos will likely implement some relaxed KYC procedures eventually due to increasing pressure from the financial authorities.

If there is a clause stated somewhere in the Terms and Conditions that online casinos can ask for verification anytime they see it necessary, that just means there is no KYC less gambling platform in reality. The no verification policy appears to be a marketing strategy to attract small time and average players.  The big time players probably knew they are always required to submit their personal details.

I'm not questioning the strategy by the way. It actually makes sense. Online casino owners allows anonymous registration and get more players in the process while complying with regulatory authorities.

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There appears to be a different view on what a legit online casino is.
TimeTeller says the legit do not ask for KYC even if you win a big amount while ryzaadit says otherwise and citing a case.

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I have updated the list and added casinos provided in the comments. I encourage the readers to please verify first.

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Where is 777coin?

You don't need to register when you visit the platform because, there's an automated account for everyone but you can go in full account if you want to keep the account that's automatically made for you.



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May 22, 2020, 03:46:02 PM
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I am constantly gambling in different sites listed in the forum but I always choose a gambling site that values anonymity, though there are some condition  that a user will have to undergo a KYC compliance if it breaks a certain rules or a certain amount of withdrawal is big that requires some KYC compliance but I never face this kind of requirement, because first I don't gamble much and I don't break the rules of a certain gambling sites.

so I value my privacy and anonymity 100%.

All of them will surely ask out KYC if they would find out something fishy into your gambling activity and thats always been part of their ToS but most of the time where these casinos doesnt really have any problems
in terms of anonymity and privacy aspect.

You can play all you want and create an account as easy as 1-2-3 and answering the question if gamblers do think about their privacy? Definitely yes and thats the main reason why crypto gambling booms up

due to this feature where you can play anonymously which is way more better and totally contrary if we do play on fiat casinos/gambling places.

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May 22, 2020, 05:05:17 PM
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There are reasons why gambler shift to crypto gambling platforms, and one of them is privacy and anonymity.

By using cryptocurrencies on their gambling venture, they are protected by one layer of privacy at the least, and most crypto gambling platforms do not really ask much questions when it comes to your identity. Just be sure that you are the only one using the account and do not break their ToS and you'll have a pleasant time.

I have had experiences with different online casinos that offer different things, and so far crypto casinos offer the most features I like in a gambling platform. There's really just no strings attached when you play on these platforms as compared to casinos that require KYC. Who knows what they're doing with the information they took from you, plus the fact that you gamble online makes it really more worrying to know where your data might end up.

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May 22, 2020, 05:20:14 PM
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Where is 777coin?
try scrolling down on the list on the first page . 7 coin is in the bottom   .

You don't need to register when you visit the platform because, there's an automated account for everyone but you can go in full account if you want to keep the account that's automatically made for you.
thats cool . this is one of the diffenition of private gambling    . afaik 7 coin doesnt have a chat room right  ? this makes the site more literally private because your typically gambling alone vs the computer but still its not like a real computer a.i because the result here is still random and not being manipulated   .  this is why gambling site like this are growing because they are succesful because people loves to protect thier privacy while still ejoying the game 
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May 22, 2020, 05:26:05 PM
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Where is 777coin?
try scrolling down on the list on the first page . 7 coin is in the bottom   .
Yes, it's just added recently. Thanks Yogee.

You don't need to register when you visit the platform because, there's an automated account for everyone but you can go in full account if you want to keep the account that's automatically made for you.
thats cool . this is one of the diffenition of private gambling    . afaik 7 coin doesnt have a chat room right  ? this makes the site more literally private because your typically gambling alone vs the computer but still its not like a real computer a.i because the result here is still random and not being manipulated   .  this is why gambling site like this are growing because they are succesful because people loves to protect thier privacy while still ejoying the game 
It's cool right? I have seen some casinos do also this.

There's no chat room though.



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May 22, 2020, 05:52:25 PM
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The fact that you're using Bitcoin in any activity like online gambling, you want to be anonymous on that platform. This is one of the factors that gamblers considered for choosing online gambling. Most of the crypto gambling platforms do not require KYC which is gamblers are afraid of, there's no need to put even single information about yourself.

Also, they can get a lot of benefits when they're gambling on crypto-related platforms, the first one is to gain a lot of profit when BTC's price surge and the second is free BTC rolls especially when you're an active player on that site.
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May 22, 2020, 05:54:07 PM
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Data privacy is sensitive.. if we go to an offline casino (traditional) Do the players who win are asked for privacy data before withdrawing money??  it's actually not important for gambling site owners to know who are the winners on their site unless they are working with the government in supervising gambling players..

I think most gamblers think and cares about their privacy and anonymity, that is why most gamblers hates submitting and filling up KYC for them protect their own personal information and data. It is the reason why i am so picky in gambling sites, so i could play gambling more safely and secured without any worries about hacking and identity theft.
the sale of privacy data is still intense in the deep web..  just recently I heard about the sale of dozens of user data in one of the hacked online stores..

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KYC is a big "NO" for me especially when it comes to "crypto-online" gambling but I already accept that if ever there will be big winnings, a KYC might surely be asked even it's not on their terms.

Crypto Exchanges and Crypto Gambling platforms are different. For the latter, it shouldn't be a mandatory requirement as it destroyed the purpose of why gamblers choose crypto in gambling.

For fiat gambling, I understand that KYC is needed here. In fact, I'm a verified user in one of the local online casinos here where I submitted my personal credentials.

Bottom line, the reason I shifted to crypto-gambling many years ago is the less hassle way of placing bets, simply register-deposit-bet. Less hassle compare to fiat gambling sites wherein KYC is a must before betting.

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May 22, 2020, 06:56:40 PM
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As far as I know, freebitco.in don't ask for a KYC neither. I didn't see this one in your list. You can deposit and withdraw any amount and it is all automated. Did these a lot before and they never asked me any questions. (Not saying they'll keep doing this or advising you to deposit huge money)

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May 22, 2020, 07:06:21 PM
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As far as I know, freebitco.in don't ask for a KYC neither. I didn't see this one in your list. You can deposit and withdraw any amount and it is all automated. Did these a lot before and they never asked me any questions. (Not saying they'll keep doing this or advising you to deposit huge money)

freebitco.in does not need KYC but i am not sure when it comes to winning a jackpot there, will they still let you withdraw without the KYC ?

Most of the gambling sites will not ask for KYC until they feel that someone is misusing their service.
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May 22, 2020, 07:22:48 PM
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I think yes, gamblers do think about their privacy and anonymity. I tried gambling toa site but as of now they don't have various kind of games and there are gamblers deposit and I also tried deposit and withdraw there. Registration doesn't need KYC and you can use nickname to avoid using real name and you can hide your game status. I am not promoting this site.
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