Do online gamblers think about their privacy and anonymity?

[DoublerHunter]

I think almost all crypto gambling still prioritizes the privacy of its users without having to involve KYC for registration and withdrawal etc.

^ Definitely right, online casino players have different ideas and preferences when it comes to anonymity but mostly choose to be anonymous when gambling because of additional security on the risk of identity theft and other threats. For me, I prefer playing in online casinos because of both anonymity and convenience and that is for the same reason, anonymity for identity security and convenience since physical casinos are pretty far from my residence besides I am not a big-time gambler and most of the time I only play gambling for entertainment and fun.

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[abel1337]

I think a lot of us agree that privacy and being anonymous has more benefits compared to playing in a casino where KYC is a must and that casino has all your real data.We don’t know how that data will be handled.For example a grumpy employe can steal this kind of data and use it for all sort of things.Based on this I think privacy and KYC less casinos are most followed and played from the gambling community.

Yes, that's true from there people managing the casinos knows who among their clients are considered high rollers and big businessmen, anonymity, and data privacy are two things that makes online gambling more attractive, and there's a possibility that online gambling will surpass gambling casinos in terms of revenues.

If we are talking about the crypto casino, there shouldn't be any KYC. We use crypto casinos not just because of the accepted assets but the anonymity we are expecting from it. The email and sometimes phone number is enough as verification and should not exceed that because bitcoin which is the father of crypto is an anonymity based asset.

We do have many choices in the crypto casino option that doesn't offer KYC and offering a good privacy protection about their players. Launching a casino with a KYC requirement in it is a bad move. Players would normally avoid that kind of casino. Gamblers don't really want to have their identity through the internet especially we are dealing with money.

[Becky666]

Am always conscious about my privacy when dealing with online gambling casinos. The protection of gamblers privacy should be prioritize by all gambling platforms, though there are limitations to this. Different countries with different laws working go or against gambling platforms, particularly in my country, we don't have rules against gambling platforms while others do. Some gambling platforms still can't allow their gamblers to gamble without registration or providing their privacy while in some zones you're free to gamble without any registration.

Also, most of these gambling platforms that allow gamblers without getting to know their privacy are sometimes faulting the laws of the land.

[cabron]

Despite some casinos being legal like having a license in curacao egaming, these casinos doesn't require KYC to its client. earnbet.io for instance doesn't ask KYC too. The good thing about being legal is that less chance of scam for both parties.

But privacy seem to be the more important for gamblers. I myself don't wanna submit documents to the casinos, we don't even knew who the owners of these casinos.

[TheGreatPython]

Oh heeelll yeah. I definitely do, there is no way I wouldn't care about it. Hell if I am gambling on a brand new place I try to change my IP, use ToR and basically get out as quickly as possible and delete and change everything. Of course some parts of it is the fact that I do not want to be found and that is understandable, I wouldn't want everyone to know who I am but that is not really that big of a deal, uncomfortable sure but wouldn't create too much trouble for me.

However, more important part is the fact that I do not want government to know that I am gambling, its not allowed in my nation to gamble crypto and there has been some people who have been punished for it (I think it was around 700 dollars or so) and that is a money I rather not pay if I could avoid it.

[bitbollo]

I will not use a casino or betting site in bitcoin/crypto-coins that ask KYC or any other form of identification. For me it's like a "blasphemy", a totally non sense.
Plus they are not allowed to provide betting service in my country (Italy) since they are not affiliated to AAMS our local agency. So why I should identify with a service that is not recognized in my country?

I am seriously missing nowadays the excellent service provided by DirectBet one of the best and honest betting site that I have seen in my life.

Choose a bet, and get an address to send a payment. Easy as click on a link.
For information, as example about their awesome service, during the closure of the site they payed with a bonus earnings of affiliate (even if minimum for payment was not reached!)

[bittraffic]

I will not use a casino or betting site in bitcoin/crypto-coins that ask KYC or any other form of identification. For me it's like a "blasphemy", a totally non sense.
Plus they are not allowed to provide betting service in my country (Italy) since they are not affiliated to AAMS our local agency. So why I should identify with a service that is not recognized in my country?

I am seriously missing nowadays the excellent service provided by DirectBet one of the best and honest betting site that I have seen in my life.

Choose a bet, and get an address to send a payment. Easy as click on a link.
For information, as example about their awesome service, during the closure of the site they payed with a bonus earnings of affiliate (even if minimum for payment was not reached!)

I use to bet MMA there in DirectBet back in the days. We can bet with just our BTC address and we are all good to go to receive the winnings when we win. We don't even need to register. These are the kind of games that use to exist in bitcoin, now they are gone including the secondstrade where we can play binaryoptions with just btc wallet. No registration required.

[Sadlife]

Yes for me anonymity is very important where especially in my country online gambling is banned and you could go to tail if you're found out gambling online.
That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.

[Twinkledoe]

Yes for me anonymity is very important where especially in my country online gambling is banned and you could go to tail if you're found out gambling online.
That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.

I think I can agree with this. Because with online crypto gambling, you can hide your gambling activities and also by using your VPN, you don't need to worry if someone is spying your online activities. I think most online gamblers are after for privacy and anonymity. And if you are a small timer, a lot of websites don't require KYC and you can enjoy the games without worrying that you need to submit your docs. Aside from benefiting all the other conveniences that online gambling is offering to a player.

[dunfida]

Yes for me anonymity is very important where especially in my country online gambling is banned and you could go to tail if you're found out gambling online.
That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.

I think I can agree with this. Because with online crypto gambling, you can hide your gambling activities and also by using your VPN, you don't need to worry if someone is spying your online activities. I think most online gamblers are after for privacy and anonymity. And if you are a small timer, a lot of websites don't require KYC and you can enjoy the games without worrying that you need to submit your docs. Aside from benefiting all the other conveniences that online gambling is offering to a player.

You would only use VPN if your country does restrict online gambling activity yet ISP would able to check out your browsing activity thats why if you do need to save up your ass from trouble then you would really need this kind of thing where you can masked out your activity towards gambling without being detected by your government but if not then you can directly play as you like and this doesnt particularly avoiding the government mean but also
in other peoples eyes as well.You can play anonymously and not being known online and thats the beauty when you do gamble here on crypto space.

[pakhitheboss]

I think almost all crypto gambling still prioritizes the privacy of its users without having to involve KYC for registration and withdrawal etc. That way, I want to add https://yolodice.com/ as one of the crypto gambling sites that think about or care about the privacy of its users.

There are others too. For example Stake and 777coins both this site's take privacy and  anonymity seriously. I have been plahing on both of them and they have never asked for KYC, except email verification which is kind of mandatory on every crypto gambling website.

[robelneo]

I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?

If you don't know which of them don't or rarely request verification, I searched over the internet for a list and here's what I gathered

Majority of the people here prefer playing in casinos that protects their privacy and anonymity but it's better if you have set up a poll so we'll find out the percentage from those who will participate, but most likely those in favor will win, because of the many online gambling casinos with anonymity as one of their main feature.

You have already a very long list and I'm sure more will be added as one of their promoters or players will comment glad that you already have blackjack.fun there.

[peter0425]

I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?

If you don't know which of them don't or rarely request verification, I searched over the internet for a list and here's what I gathered

Majority of the people here prefer playing in casinos that protects their privacy and anonymity but it's better if you have set up a poll so we'll find out the percentage from those who will participate, but most likely those in favor will win, because of the many online gambling casinos with anonymity as one of their main feature.

You have already a very long list and I'm sure more will be added as one of their promoters or players will comment glad that you already have blackjack.fun there.

The problem here in Gambling Online is there are sites that allows you to play without asking any KYC while you are not winning big amount,but once you hit the jackpot or something near that prize?they will suddenly ask for your KYC and then the problem will start.

For me sites must be clear about their policy before letting players bet so in case there are issues,at least it can easily answered or players will avoid playing on their sites.

[ralle14]

I use to bet MMA there in DirectBet back in the days. We can bet with just our BTC address and we are all good to go to receive the winnings when we win. We don't even need to register. These are the kind of games that use to exist in bitcoin, now they are gone including the secondstrade where we can play binaryoptions with just btc wallet. No registration required.

There's still a few gambling sites that have the on chain gambling method and here's a sportsbook similar to Directbet but most gamblers stick to off chain gambling sites nowadays since you can save a lot of transaction fee and accepting transactions with no confirmations can cause more issues. And even onehash that have similar features offers an off chain alternative as fees can sometimes be expensive if you have a small bankroll.

[boyptc]

There are others too. For example Stake and 777coins both this site's take privacy and  anonymity seriously. I have been plahing on both of them and they have never asked for KYC, except email verification which is kind of mandatory on every crypto gambling website.

In 777 coin, you have an option not to go with email verification and you will just keep your account that's made when you visited the casino.

You don't need to register when you visit the platform because, there's an automated account for everyone but you can go in full account if you want to keep the account that's automatically made for you.

[noormcs5]

Yes for me anonymity is very important where especially in my country online gambling is banned and you could go to tail if you're found out gambling online.
That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.

Privacy is very important for most of us who are playing gambling and there are many reasons for this. You must have noticed that if anyone won a big amount they never come in front of us and tell us that they won a big amount because they do not want to disclose this information to anyone. We never know who won the jackpots and lotteries and all this stuff is anonymous.

[khaled0111]

it's better if you have set up a poll so we'll find out the percentage from those who will participate

why do we need a poll for? It's just a list of casinos that do not require verification not a contest on which is the best casino.

Most crypto-casinos don't ask for verification at least when you make small deposits/withdrawals. But if you read their ToS you will find that they reserve the right to do it.
I didn't go through all of websites on the list but here is what I found on few of them:

6. Know your Customer (“KYC”)
Stake reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Stake reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.

Privacy Policy
Before or at the time of collecting personal information, we will identify the purposes for which information is being collected. We will collect and use of personal information solely with the objective of fulfilling those purposes specified by us and for other compatible purposes, unless we obtain the consent of the individual concerned or as required by law.

Types of Data Collected:

Personal Data While using our Service, we may ask you to provide us with certain personally identifiable information that can be used to contact or identify you ("Personal Data"). Personally identifiable information may include, but is not limited to:

Email address
First name and last name
Phone number
Address, State, Province, ZIP/Postal code, City
Cookies and Usage Data

6. KYC (Know Your Customer)
Alford N.V. reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Alford N.V. has the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently clarified.

[Maus0728]

The problem here in Gambling Online is there are sites that allows you to play without asking any KYC while you are not winning big amount,but once you hit the jackpot or something near that prize?they will suddenly ask for your KYC and then the problem will start.

Yes, I also noticed the lack of KYC from gambling website. However, can I know what are those sites in which people are being force to do KYC when they won a large amount of money? Although, I still didn't experience winning huge amount of money in a gambling site, still it would be better for newbies to which of them are operating this kind of stuff.

Why would they do that if in the first place they can implement the system before the user won a large chunk of money. There is nothing wrong in implementing KYC though.

[Yogee]

it's better if you have set up a poll so we'll find out the percentage from those who will participate

why do we need a poll for? It's just a list of casinos that do not require verification not a contest on which is the best casino.

Most crypto-casinos don't ask for verification at least when you make small deposits/withdrawals. But if you read their ToS you will find that they reserve the right to do it.
I didn't go through all of websites on the list but here is what I found on few of them:

6. Know your Customer (“KYC”)
Stake reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Stake reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.

Privacy Policy
Before or at the time of collecting personal information, we will identify the purposes for which information is being collected. We will collect and use of personal information solely with the objective of fulfilling those purposes specified by us and for other compatible purposes, unless we obtain the consent of the individual concerned or as required by law.

Types of Data Collected:

Personal Data While using our Service, we may ask you to provide us with certain personally identifiable information that can be used to contact or identify you ("Personal Data"). Personally identifiable information may include, but is not limited to:

Email address
First name and last name
Phone number
Address, State, Province, ZIP/Postal code, City
Cookies and Usage Data

6. KYC (Know Your Customer)
Alford N.V. reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Alford N.V. has the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently clarified.

This is just like what Darkdays said. Thank you for providing examples. I added a note in my post to show these examples.

I also discussed it in my comment here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250143.msg54489271#msg54489271 but no one seems to notice or maybe they just don't care?

[bittraffic]

I use to bet MMA there in DirectBet back in the days. We can bet with just our BTC address and we are all good to go to receive the winnings when we win. We don't even need to register. These are the kind of games that use to exist in bitcoin, now they are gone including the secondstrade where we can play binaryoptions with just btc wallet. No registration required.

There's still a few gambling sites that have the on chain gambling method and here's a sportsbook similar to Directbet but most gamblers stick to off chain gambling sites nowadays since you can save a lot of transaction fee and accepting transactions with no confirmations can cause more issues. And even onehash that have similar features offers an off chain alternative as fees can sometimes be expensive if you have a small bankroll.

That's one of the drawback though. Transaction cost a lot even when just betting alone. There will be no cost when its onchain and that no coins go to waste. This is why some platforms are almost trying to target gambling projects like EOS that no fees for its transaction.

Maybe setting LN channel for dbet.io users will work.