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June 02, 2020, 07:09:16 AM
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Ira Kleiman can now go and tell the court, that Craig Wright, who after 2020 controls the Tulip Trust coins, wants to spend some of his early Bitcoins and to spend his coins anonymously he signed a message to some early blocks, that is pointing away from himself.

He should be jailed to avoid further damage.

Not exactly, but I've been very close. Next step: Jail!

https://cryptothenews.com/kleiman-legal-team-presents-new-evidence-of-craig-wrights-fabrication/

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Wright has the keys

The Plaintiffs had already argued the list was a “forgery intended to deceive Plaintiffs and this Court, and that Wright created it to avoid sanctions pursuant to this Court’s Order.”

They said the new evidence further proves that the list is “not an accurate listing of Wright’s Bitcoin, and that he is still hiding the true list from Plaintiffs and the Court.”

    “Said simply, Wright represented these 145 addresses were part of his Bitcoin holdings and were locked in an inaccessible encrypted file. This week, the person that actually controls the private keys to those addresses used those private keys … thus proving the addresses do not belong to Wright.”

While the new evidence was commented by many on Crypto Twitter as showing once and for all Wright is not Satoshi, that’s not the position of the Kleiman team.

They still think that he has access to significant BTC wealth and demand a share of it based on Wright’s alleged partnership with Dave Kleiman in mining the BTC. A week ago they stated that Wright has access to the Bitcoin holdings in question.

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June 02, 2020, 02:36:03 PM
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Did any of you doubt that Craig was a fraud?

Ye.  Let’s see what happens later this year, tough guy. 

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June 02, 2020, 03:07:18 PM
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Ira Kleiman can now go and tell the court, that Craig Wright, who after 2020 controls the Tulip Trust coins, wants to spend some of his early Bitcoins and to spend his coins anonymously he signed a message to some early blocks, that is pointing away from himself.

He should be jailed to avoid further damage.

Not exactly, but I've been very close. Next step: Jail!

https://cryptothenews.com/kleiman-legal-team-presents-new-evidence-of-craig-wrights-fabrication/

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Wright has the keys

The Plaintiffs had already argued the list was a “forgery intended to deceive Plaintiffs and this Court, and that Wright created it to avoid sanctions pursuant to this Court’s Order.”

They said the new evidence further proves that the list is “not an accurate listing of Wright’s Bitcoin, and that he is still hiding the true list from Plaintiffs and the Court.”

    “Said simply, Wright represented these 145 addresses were part of his Bitcoin holdings and were locked in an inaccessible encrypted file. This week, the person that actually controls the private keys to those addresses used those private keys … thus proving the addresses do not belong to Wright.”

While the new evidence was commented by many on Crypto Twitter as showing once and for all Wright is not Satoshi, that’s not the position of the Kleiman team.

They still think that he has access to significant BTC wealth and demand a share of it based on Wright’s alleged partnership with Dave Kleiman in mining the BTC. A week ago they stated that Wright has access to the Bitcoin holdings in question.

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The Kleiman team could be correct, and surely there is a much greater obligation to tell the truth in the court and the submission of court documents than their would be in the various lies that Craig  spouts out on a regular basis in any interview or interaction that he has publicly.

So, sure in the court papers craig has also claimed that he had a mining relationship with Dave Kleinman, and perhaps that is a lie, too.. but the Kleinman estate seems to be trying to rely on some of Craig's representations, so even if he is not representing the addresses or locations of the coins that he (craigie) supposedly has control over then at least there might be addresses that craig has not disclosed to the court... perhaps?  Perhaps?  

It should be quite difficult to rely on any representations of any compulsive liar, so once they are shown to be a compulsive liar, then it would almost become incumbent for the proven liar to show proof of every single claim so that neither Kleinman's team or the court ends up relying upon a previously told lie that had not been backed by evidence.  In other words, at some point, there should be some place in which a foundation can be built, which there may be no there, there, and i don't know whether that would cause craig to go to jail or just having to pay heavily in terms of costs of opposing counsel.. and maybe some additional punitive measures (the previously referred to sanctions).

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June 02, 2020, 03:28:17 PM
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Did any of you doubt that Craig was a fraud?

Ye.  Let’s see what happens later this year, tough guy. 


Another wishful BSV bagholder.. hoping that some day something that craigie said happens to be true.

I tell you what is more likely to happen with you dumb fucks supporting Craigie and calvin in your bag holding and propping up of BSV is that they are going to fork on your asses, and such fork is going to rightfully turn over Satoshi equivalent coins to craigie and calvin and also other unmoved coins... It will be for your own good, while you dumb asses prop up the BSV price and those scamtwats are able to exit scam on your wishful-thinking hopium-filled fucks.

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June 02, 2020, 03:52:45 PM
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I am consistently baffled that people follow this moron.  It is really as easy as moving your the coins from the satoshi address or providing information from the company he registered bitcoin.org and bitcointalk.org with.  Craig busted himself out to me personally when he lied about having  built smart contracts in to the blockchain from day one. 

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June 03, 2020, 03:20:00 PM
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Let’s see what happens later this year

Probably the same thing that happened to him last year, the year before that, the year before that, and the year before that: he will continue to be outed as the fraud that he is. Every prediction or promise he's ever made about bitcoin turned out to be false. From the SegWit "anyone can spend" nonsense to the mass dumping of Satoshi's coins, to the reception of private keys from the bonded courier. Every. Single. One. There's no reason to believe that after getting tripped up and caught in dozens of lies, he's going to be magically vindicated by some sort of hail mary saving grace.

I think the last doubt that Craig was a fraud left my mind when he was caught having so obviously forged Dave Kleiman's signature.



The next sentence reads in the lawsuit reads:

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Craig has never provided additional evidence of their legitimacy.

You can even replicate it yourself, its quite easy:



Only a morally bereft scammer of the lowest order would forge the signature of their dead friend for the purposes of defrauding his family. Only after this charlatan admits the whole charade is a lie and rescinds his idiotic claim will BSV's reputation begin to somewhat recover.

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June 03, 2020, 04:16:31 PM
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Craig is the biggest liar in the crypto industry, literally the king of liars.

Are you saying Craig Wright is king and the best?  Meh! 

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June 03, 2020, 04:24:48 PM
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Craig is the biggest liar in the crypto industry, literally the king of liars.

Are you saying Craig Wright is king and the best?  Meh! 


You should merit the toolbag.  Meh!   Grin

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Every prediction or promise he's ever made about bitcoin turned out to be false. From the SegWit "anyone can spend" nonsense to the mass dumping of Satoshi's coins,

I'm all for pointing out faketoshi's bullshit, but I'm pretty sure a fair amount of the credit for the "anyone can spend" drivel still belongs to the original crypto wingnut MP and his trilema blog, which I believe pre-date faketoshi's equally dumb blogs by some margin.

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Here is latest CSW (Craig Scammer Wright) in short video on twitter..
I knew he was a scammer, liar and fraud, but now I know he is also super-stupid.

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Interviewer: "Hey Craig, how do you explain the 145 addressed that signed "Craig is a fraud" last week ?"

Craig: " No message was signed, you can't sign anonymously - you have to have an identity to sign....key don't count..I gotta go...be"
source:
https://twitter.com/BitcoinMemeHub/status/1268366834287312897

Full video on youtube REIMAGINE 2020 with Patrick Mclain (I have no desire to watch this crap)
https://youtu.be/PHBrodzl5qY

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Here is latest CSW (Craig Scammer Wright) in short video on twitter..
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Craig: " No message was signed, you can't sign anonymously - you have to have an identity to sign....key don't count..I gotta go...be"
First rule of being a scammer: just deny everything!

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June 05, 2020, 04:11:26 PM
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Did any of you doubt that Craig was a fraud?

Ye.  Let’s see what happens later this year, tough guy. 


Another wishful BSV bagholder.. hoping that some day something that craigie said happens to be true.

I tell you what is more likely to happen with you dumb fucks supporting Craigie and calvin in your bag holding and propping up of BSV is that they are going to fork on your asses, and such fork is going to rightfully turn over Satoshi equivalent coins to craigie and calvin and also other unmoved coins... It will be for your own good, while you dumb asses prop up the BSV price and those scamtwats are able to exit scam on your wishful-thinking hopium-filled fucks.

Another thing that is ironic about the gullibility of BSV supporters is to continue to believe the shifting narrative of the scamtwats, craig and calvin.

Initially their claim was that craig had the keys to Satoshi's coins, and they were just waiting for tulip trust delivery, and more recently, they have been asking the court to just proclaim that the coins are theirs because the scamtwats do not have the keys.

How more gullible can anyone be to either believe such bullshit or to prop up the value of such coins when craig and calvin are trying to figure out any kind of way to actually get control over the satoshi keys.. when of course, their claims are largely built upon lies and various kinds of smoke and mirror shenanigans... and even non-technical people are not that dumb, and in court systems, if the court does not understand what the fuck is going on, they can receive expert testimony from technical people who can rebutt the claims of the scammers and to show what should be more than an obvious scam attempt.

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June 05, 2020, 04:42:08 PM
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Ira Kleiman can now go and tell the court, that Craig Wright, who after 2020 controls the Tulip Trust coins, wants to spend some of his early Bitcoins and to spend his coins anonymously he signed a message to some early blocks, that is pointing away from himself.
He should be jailed to avoid further damage.

Not exactly, but I've been very close. Next step: Jail!
https://cryptothenews.com/kleiman-legal-team-presents-new-evidence-of-craig-wrights-fabrication/

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Wright has the keys

While the new evidence was commented by many on Crypto Twitter as showing once and for all Wright is not Satoshi, that’s not the position of the Kleiman team.

They still think that he has access to significant BTC wealth and demand a share of it based on Wright’s alleged partnership with Dave Kleiman in mining the BTC. A week ago they stated that Wright has access to the Bitcoin holdings in question.

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problem is .. ira and craig are not enemies. craig hired ira to be a 'frenemy' ira knows craig doesnt own anything. but craig bribed him to play along.
they are both on the same side trying to delay and cause drama at the communities expense. all so they can out-time the statute of limitations deadline on the australian tax fraud case.

ira has never intended to get any 'satoshi coins' ira knows there is no trust..
he is getting paid from craigs other scams cough investors cough. so whatever happens to the case craigs plan is to have it dismissed by his script or by ira's script. all just after the australian statute of limitation elapses.
is just a game to both of them

even with 100% proof craig never had any stash. Ira will either find another excuse to keep the drama alive for craig a bit longer. or when the date lapses. then dismiss the case

what needs to be done is someone else try to do something to get craig locked up

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Ira Kleiman can now go and tell the court, that Craig Wright, who after 2020 controls the Tulip Trust coins, wants to spend some of his early Bitcoins and to spend his coins anonymously he signed a message to some early blocks, that is pointing away from himself.
He should be jailed to avoid further damage.

Not exactly, but I've been very close. Next step: Jail!
https://cryptothenews.com/kleiman-legal-team-presents-new-evidence-of-craig-wrights-fabrication/

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Wright has the keys

While the new evidence was commented by many on Crypto Twitter as showing once and for all Wright is not Satoshi, that’s not the position of the Kleiman team.

They still think that he has access to significant BTC wealth and demand a share of it based on Wright’s alleged partnership with Dave Kleiman in mining the BTC. A week ago they stated that Wright has access to the Bitcoin holdings in question.

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problem is .. ira and craig are not enemies. craig hired ira to be a 'frenemy' ira knows craig doesnt own anything. but craig bribed him to play along.
they are both on the same side trying to delay and cause drama at the communities expense. all so they can out-time the statute of limitations deadline on the australian tax fraud case.

ira has never intended to get any 'satoshi coins' ira knows there is no trust..
he is getting paid from craigs other scams cough investors cough. so whatever happens to the case craigs plan is to have it dismissed by his script or by ira's script. all just after the australian statute of limitation elapses.
is just a game to both of them

even with 100% proof craig never had any stash. Ira will either find another excuse to keep the drama alive for craig a bit longer. or when the date lapses. then dismiss the case

what needs to be done is someone else try to do something to get craig locked up

When is the Aussie statute of limitations up?  Thanks. 
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June 05, 2020, 07:57:28 PM
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problem is .. ira and craig are not enemies. craig hired ira to be a 'frenemy' ira knows craig doesnt own anything. but craig bribed him to play along.
they are both on the same side trying to delay and cause drama at the communities expense. all so they can out-time the statute of limitations deadline on the australian tax fraud case.

ira has never intended to get any 'satoshi coins' ira knows there is no trust..
he is getting paid from craigs other scams cough investors cough. so whatever happens to the case craigs plan is to have it dismissed by his script or by ira's script. all just after the australian statute of limitation elapses.
is just a game to both of them

even with 100% proof craig never had any stash. Ira will either find another excuse to keep the drama alive for craig a bit longer. or when the date lapses. then dismiss the case

what needs to be done is someone else try to do something to get craig locked up

When is the Aussie statute of limitations up?  Thanks.  

Never.

Franky is incorrect in that there is not necessarily a statute of limitation date for the ATO to pursue tax fraud charges once a case has been initiated.

https://www.ato.gov.au/About-ATO/Commitments-and-reporting/In-detail/FOI/Fraud-and-evasion-guidelines/

According to a court document released just a few weeks ago, the ATO was actively investigating Wright as of June 2018:



Everything else Franky said is just a baseless conspiracy theory. An interesting one, but not grounded in anything tangible.

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problem is .. ira and craig are not enemies. craig hired ira to be a 'frenemy' ira knows craig doesnt own anything. but craig bribed him to play along.
they are both on the same side trying to delay and cause drama at the communities expense. all so they can out-time the statute of limitations deadline on the australian tax fraud case.

ira has never intended to get any 'satoshi coins' ira knows there is no trust..
he is getting paid from craigs other scams cough investors cough. so whatever happens to the case craigs plan is to have it dismissed by his script or by ira's script. all just after the australian statute of limitation elapses.
is just a game to both of them

even with 100% proof craig never had any stash. Ira will either find another excuse to keep the drama alive for craig a bit longer. or when the date lapses. then dismiss the case

what needs to be done is someone else try to do something to get craig locked up

When is the Aussie statute of limitations up?  Thanks.  

Never.

Franky is incorrect in that there is not necessarily a statute of limitation date for the ATO to pursue tax fraud charges once a case has been initiated.

https://www.ato.gov.au/About-ATO/Commitments-and-reporting/In-detail/FOI/Fraud-and-evasion-guidelines/

According to a court document released just a few weeks ago, the ATO was actively investigating Wright as of June 2018:



Everything else Franky said is just a baseless conspiracy theory. An interesting one, but not grounded in anything tangible.

When I used to chat with Craig [cause we were buds] he told me about the ATO.  He said he left Australia in part cause the high yearly paper profit Tax.  And that he reported his btc holdings upon exit which at that time were worth relatively little.  So any taxes to the commie Aussies he owes is minuscule compared to the current btc price and all the free forks.  In other words, the ATO has nothing on him cause he left when btc was cheap. 

Cause Craig is smart.  Like me. 


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Heck, I don't get why, if this subreddit hates him so much, why keep giving him free publicity? Why keep talking about him at all? He's just a loud child screaming because he saw everyone enjoying themselves playing ball, no, he wants to take the ball that is no one's, or the park's and is screaming "MINE!" as if that makes it his.

Don't give him a platform, don't listen to him, he doesn't deserve the attention, he craves it.
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Heck, I don't get why, if this subreddit hates him so much, why keep giving him free publicity? Why keep talking about him at all? He's just a loud child screaming because he saw everyone enjoying themselves playing ball, no, he wants to take the ball that is no one's, or the park's and is screaming "MINE!" as if that makes it his.

Don't give him a platform, don't listen to him, he doesn't deserve the attention, he craves it.

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When I used to chat with Craig [cause we were buds] he told me about the ATO.  

Shows us from where you are coming

He said he left Australia in part cause the high yearly paper profit Tax.  And that he reported his btc holdings upon exit which at that time were worth relatively little.  

 Yeah.. of course, we should believe that opportunistic bullshit.  Someone who lies on an ongoing basis is not all of a sudden tell the truth..

So any taxes to the commie Aussies he owes is minuscule compared to the current btc price and all the free forks.  In other words, the ATO has nothing on him cause he left when btc was cheap.  

Well.. go back there and defend it in court then.  May end up looking through some bars.  What an injustice that would be.

Cause Craig is smart.  Like me.  

Lot's of people like to imitate narcissistic scammers, but does not make them smart.  Also, saying that you are smart, usually would cause any half way smart listener to question why you feel a need to say that you were smart, if it were true.

Heck, I don't get why, if this subreddit hates him so much, why keep giving him free publicity? Why keep talking about him at all? He's just a loud child screaming because he saw everyone enjoying themselves playing ball, no, he wants to take the ball that is no one's, or the park's and is screaming "MINE!" as if that makes it his.

Don't give him a platform, don't listen to him, he doesn't deserve the attention, he craves it.

If you just let scammy and scummy fraudsters run wild, they are likely to scam and injure innocent people.

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When I used to chat with Craig [cause we were buds] he told me about the ATO.  He said he left Australia in part cause the high yearly paper profit Tax.  And that he reported his btc holdings upon exit which at that time were worth relatively little.  So any taxes to the commie Aussies he owes is minuscule compared to the current btc price and all the free forks.  In other words, the ATO has nothing on him cause he left when btc was cheap.  

Cause Craig is smart.  Like me.  

Okay. I don't believe any of this for one second, but just for everybody else reading this thread, the Australian Tax Office wasn't after Craig for his bitcoin holdings. They were after Craig because he made false statements in tax filings for (at least one of) his companies.

Andrew Sommer was a lawyer who represented Craig for his ATO dealings and ultimately quit after he had been informed that Craig apparently forged a number of emails sent to the ATO to support his case. Coin-Exch Pty Ltd is one of Craig's dozen or so failed companies.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.1.15.pdf


Here you can clearly see his company owes $5.68 million AUD to the ATO. In the explanation letter accompanying the audit results:

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Under the intellectual property licence, you claim to have acquired a licence to use software, said to be owned by Craig Wright who ‘has clear title internationally based on the judgement from NSWSC 2013/245661’. This is understood this to be a reference to a New South Wales Supreme Court Case (number 2013/245661) which was not finalised until 6 November 2013; after the deed date of 22 August 2013. That is, the licence agreement makes specific reference to an event which had not yet occurred, raising questions as to its validity.

Again in 2015, another one of Craig's companies, DeMorgan, tried to claim $54 million AUD in tax rebates that were based on false premises:

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Adding to the big numbers, DeMorgan Ltd announced in a press release that it had received Australia’s largest R&D Advanced Finding from AusIndustry and would as such be eligible to receive approximately $54,000,000 in R&D cash rebate for the R&D activities conducted in the 2014/15 financial year.

The interesting thing is that all three entities are involved in financial services/fintech – DeMorgan is involved in cryptocurrency.

Of course they never paid him a penny. But that didn't stop Craig from using the supposed rebates to entice investors into a DeMorgan subsidiary named Cloudcroft, which was liquidated by the ATO in 2017:

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Cloudcroft announced in 2015 that the rebates would allow it to build one of the world’s top 20 supercomputers. Wright would also front a master class on programming supercomputers.

The company claimed to be assisting high-end computing firm SGI in building supercomputers. SGI quickly denied that claim.

Basically, Craig has a well-established history of being an unrepentant liar about everything. And that trait seems to accurately characterize his supporters as well.

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