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July 17, 2020, 02:01:53 AM
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After the max keiser interview done (I posted a link to it on this thread so it's somewhere) the mention of craig wright to him got a reaction, so they had to reach out to Mr. PhD next (as I liked to call him on my thread) Cheesy
So here is a trailer of it released yesterday. Watch a bit of it (nearly 2 minutes of repeating "Bitcoin is a scam") if you can not stand this guy enough listening to incoherent mumbling about "his bitcoin" is the wright one for 1.45 hours. Wink
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July 20, 2020, 08:20:41 AM
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Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud. He doesn’t have the keys used to sign this message. The Lightning Network is a significant achievement. However, we need to continue work on improving on-chain capacity. Unfortunately, the solution is not to just change a constant in the code or to allow powerful participants to force out others. We are all Satoshi.
You forgot to sign it  Wink

But seriously: just copy-paste some stuff and post it as your own will only get you banned.

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July 20, 2020, 10:06:08 AM
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This was sent to me. The statement made by this man makes me believe that either, franky1 is right, it's not about the coins/it's something more, OR, he's getting himself ready for an insanity plea.

Unfit world for people with Asperger's Syndrome, Bitcoin fixes this.



Think of it this way.  That is a calculated statement for a compulsive liar to come out with.  It is intentionally designed to alter peoples' perceptions of him:

  • It makes him sound altruistic and caring, instead of the greedy and detached Faketoshi we have come to know and despise.
  • It paints him as a victim of deception, instead of the lying, manipulative, habitual storyteller who is making it up as they go along.
  • It attempts to give the impression that he is some sort of "beacon of hope" for people with neurological divergence.
  • It could cause the uninformed to take pity on him if they see him as the underdog, instead of the usurper.
  • It is scant on detail and deliberately avoids raising any points that can be easily proven or disproven.
  • It reinforces the absolute lie that he created Bitcoin.


I'm not buying it.  It's just more lies from a determined con-man.

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July 20, 2020, 11:32:38 AM
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This was sent to me. The statement made by this man makes me believe that either, franky1 is right, it's not about the coins/it's something more, OR, he's getting himself ready for an insanity plea.

Unfit world for people with Asperger's Syndrome, Bitcoin fixes this.



Think of it this way.  That is a calculated statement for a compulsive liar to come out with.  It is intentionally designed to alter peoples' perceptions of him:

  • It makes him sound altruistic and caring, instead of the greedy and detached Faketoshi we have come to know and despise.
  • It paints him as a victim of deception, instead of the lying, manipulative, habitual storyteller who is making it up as they go along.
  • It attempts to give the impression that he is some sort of "beacon of hope" for people with neurological divergence.
  • It could cause the uninformed to take pity on him if they see him as the underdog, instead of the usurper.
  • It is scant on detail and deliberately avoids raising any points that can be easily proven or disproven.
  • It reinforces the absolute lie that he created Bitcoin.


I'm not buying it.  It's just more lies from a determined con-man.


From my point of view, it's obvious that he is saying, "I invented Bitcoin to help other people like me with Asperger's Syndrome", because he's hiding his real motivations. It's not the coins.

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July 20, 2020, 01:18:23 PM
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From my point of view, it's obvious that he is saying, "I invented Bitcoin to help other people like me with Asperger's Syndrome", because he's hiding his real motivations. It's not the coins.

It's the fiat.  Always has been with him.  The more he can do to distract from his blatant theft of satoshi's mantle, the larger the number of people he can potentially dupe into buying his shitty forkcoin.  When the price spikes sufficiently, he'll sell his presumably large stash for fiat.  Classic long-con.

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July 20, 2020, 02:40:36 PM
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This was sent to me. The statement made by this man makes me believe that either, franky1 is right, it's not about the coins/it's something more, OR, he's getting himself ready for an insanity plea.

Unfit world for people with Asperger's Syndrome, Bitcoin fixes this.



Think of it this way.  That is a calculated statement for a compulsive liar to come out with.  It is intentionally designed to alter peoples' perceptions of him:

  • It makes him sound altruistic and caring, instead of the greedy and detached Faketoshi we have come to know and despise.
  • It paints him as a victim of deception, instead of the lying, manipulative, habitual storyteller who is making it up as they go along.
  • It attempts to give the impression that he is some sort of "beacon of hope" for people with neurological divergence.
  • It could cause the uninformed to take pity on him if they see him as the underdog, instead of the usurper.
  • It is scant on detail and deliberately avoids raising any points that can be easily proven or disproven.
  • It reinforces the absolute lie that he created Bitcoin.


I'm not buying it.  It's just more lies from a determined con-man.

To me, it reads like:  Hey, I just learned this new word, and how it might fit into painting a favorable picture in my case.  I am going to use this new word in a sentence.... You see how well such new word fits as a descriptor?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  So, yeah, in other words, I am not buying such distractive nonsense, either... He's wasting more of our time with his look at me, nonsense.

And, Franky1 is not correct about shit, except perhaps if the roulette wheel happens to land on the spot that he is proclaiming to be predetermined, which is a long shot at best to even suggest that the world view of franky1 is even close to playing out, except perhaps by fluke...

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July 20, 2020, 06:17:44 PM
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From my point of view, it's obvious that he is saying, "I invented Bitcoin to help other people like me with Asperger's Syndrome", because he's hiding his real motivations. It's not the coins.

It's the fiat.  Always has been with him.  The more he can do to distract from his blatant theft of satoshi's mantle, the larger the number of people he can potentially dupe into buying his shitty forkcoin.  When the price spikes sufficiently, he'll sell his presumably large stash for fiat.  Classic long-con.

And then BSV shrivels as he has less interest pumping a coin he cashed out on until it becomes a footnote in a history book about cryptocurrencies. Some people will do anything to net hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions seem too far-out even to schemers like him.

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From my point of view, it's obvious that he is saying, "I invented Bitcoin to help other people like me with Asperger's Syndrome", because he's hiding his real motivations. It's not the coins.

It's the fiat.  Always has been with him.  The more he can do to distract from his blatant theft of satoshi's mantle, the larger the number of people he can potentially dupe into buying his shitty forkcoin.  When the price spikes sufficiently, he'll sell his presumably large stash for fiat.  Classic long-con.


For Calvin Ayre it's the fiat. For Craig Wright, maybe it's also the fiat, but it is also what "they", the people behind this show, want us to believe. This Borat-like character "they" created has hidden motives.

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July 21, 2020, 09:23:48 AM
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For Calvin Ayre it's the fiat. For Craig Wright, maybe it's also the fiat, but it is also what "they", the people behind this show, want us to believe. This Borat-like character "they" created has hidden motives.

He's planting the Asperger's seed now for insurance purposes. It gets you off the hook for any amount of errant behaviour. When every foundation of his ludicrous crap is finally chipped away he can offload it all on that.

And then he'll claim to be trans to add some extra heart wrenching detail. And an alien.
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And, Franky1 is not correct about shit, except perhaps if the roulette wheel happens to land on the spot that he is proclaiming to be predetermined, which is a long shot at best to even suggest that the world view of franky1 is even close to playing out, except perhaps by fluke...

my words are that Iras side want to get a judge to validate there was a partnership involving the creation of bitcoin and its IP
and has made no request for CSW to buy out daves estates 50%
i even screenshotted the actual request from the actual documents. which actually stated this


i spent many pages of posts trying to atleast get you to read the documents. but yet again here you are trying to spin it into how my words are just my view.

maybe next time READ THE DOCUMENTS
funny how the "truce" you pretended to offer only lasted a few days.

next time dont try making what ira actually requested sound irrelevant by hinting it must be wrong because franky mentioned it.
instead actually read what ira requested and how its about the IP
show me one place where ira asked to get CSW to pay out to ira (buy out daves 50%)(your theory)
all thats been said is the amounts and the partnership. not any settlement offer/requests
ill give you a hint. the screen shot of actual court documentation says
(2)(3) all IP and assets REMAIN part of the partnership
nowhere does it say
(2)(3) 50% of IP assets needs CSW to pay to daves estate
emphasis:
remain (my view) split/buyout(your view)
now again which view does the actual document side with in regards to the actual request that is supposedly CSW's "sanction"
seems CSW punishment is giving him what he wants

anyways
READ THE DOCUMENTS.
it makes you look foolish when you just try to make legal documents look irrelevant and then just try making social drama on a forum
by you saying Ira's requests are irrelevant and you have a better theory. is you playing your own game of roulette. but im sorry your friends might be at your table. playing the game with you. but you need to realise your playing theory roulette not me

i prefer card counting whats actually on the table to increase the odds of my hand. but you continue into your game of unpredictability. just dont try making it look like others are playing your game when you dont even understand the other games i play that your not part of

in a case. what matters more is the word in the documents. not the social drama on a forum the courts have nothing to do with. so stick to the words in the documents.
then you wont think that a game of roulette is being played. then you will learn that iras request is actually the same thing CSW has been wanting for 4 years. and ira getting his request is a win for CSW
anything after that request (the game your playing) is roulette

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Is it truly possible for Craig Wright, and his partner/s to actually "own" Bitcoin intellectual property? Bitcoin is open source, free to copy/use.

For Calvin Ayre it's the fiat. For Craig Wright, maybe it's also the fiat, but it is also what "they", the people behind this show, want us to believe. This Borat-like character "they" created has hidden motives.

He's planting the Asperger's seed now for insurance purposes. It gets you off the hook for any amount of errant behaviour. When every foundation of his ludicrous crap is finally chipped away he can offload it all on that.

And then he'll claim to be trans to add some extra heart wrenching detail. And an alien.


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Is it truly possible for Craig Wright, and his partner/s to actually "own" Bitcoin intellectual property? Bitcoin is open source, free to copy/use.

once you understand SLAPP's
you understand that its never actually about being the undeniable physical proof creator. its about having a legal judgement that favours your side of the fence that you had some legally approved association over its creation

its about just having enough of a shoe to have your foot in the door. to atleast get into the party and cause drama and damage once inside

EG saying the licences began in 2009. but he can claim he was involved pre2009 and certain devs stole his "property" and then released it for free thus causing financial damage.
and many other techniques SLAPPER's use

funny part ill mention again
even gmax himself had many hissy fits about other people making apps for bitcoin that HE didnt want to endorse. crying many times that they should be treated as oppositions. and opting to shame them into nonexistance
he even wants to puppetmaster what language people have to stick to. he doesnt want devs to make bitcoin fullnode apps in rust, java, go or other languages.
and his mindset of if its not CORE then its not bitcoin

it has been funny watching his ego at play. flipping that its open source then flopping at anyone trying to be independent. especially his blockstream 'defensive patent licence'

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July 22, 2020, 09:40:05 PM
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Is it truly possible for Craig Wright, and his partner/s to actually "own" Bitcoin intellectual property? Bitcoin is open source, free to copy/use.

once you understand SLAPP's

No wait, let me guess, we just have to keep reading and researching until we form the same conclusion you did, right?   Cheesy

Just dox yourself so we can call some mental health professionals and get you the help you so clearly need.

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I think many are of the opinion that Hal Finney is Satoshi, or at least worked with Satoshi in some sort of development capacity.
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Is it truly possible for Craig Wright, and his partner/s to actually "own" Bitcoin intellectual property? Bitcoin is open source, free to copy/use.

once you understand SLAPP's

No wait, let me guess, we just have to keep reading and researching until we form the same conclusion you did, right?   Cheesy

Just dox yourself so we can call some mental health professionals and get you the help you so clearly need.

is not about keep reading.
for you its about you trying to read something for the first time
most smart people (definetly not you) know what CSW game has been since he first came on the scene 4 years ago.
many people know what slapp cases are about

as for your own mentality. its become clear you just ass kiss a certain group and they thank you by handing you what opinion you should think. and you thank them back with more ass kissing without questioning them

you might be surprised to read what ira's request is and then be surprised that it actually aligns with what CSW also wants. which plays exactly into CSw long term game since he first got noticed
but until you see iras requests in the document. your mind is on instant denial of what ira is requesting because you think it cant be right if i mentioned it
maybe try checking the source for once

how about try to restrain yourself just once. and address the topic. and use actual quotes from recent documents that are most relevant. .
lets see if you can restrain yourself from looking like an idiot, just once

just try to mention something about ira's request without making a post about me, without if statements or denial of what the requested words are
just try.

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July 24, 2020, 11:09:35 AM
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Is it truly possible for Craig Wright, and his partner/s to actually "own" Bitcoin intellectual property? Bitcoin is open source, free to copy/use.

once you understand SLAPP's
you understand that its never actually about being the undeniable physical proof creator. its about having a legal judgement that favours your side of the fence that you had some legally approved association over its creation

its about just having enough of a shoe to have your foot in the door. to atleast get into the party and cause drama and damage once inside

EG saying the licences began in 2009. but he can claim he was involved pre2009 and certain devs stole his "property" and then released it for free thus causing financial damage.
and many other techniques SLAPPER's use

funny part ill mention again
even gmax himself had many hissy fits about other people making apps for bitcoin that HE didnt want to endorse. crying many times that they should be treated as oppositions. and opting to shame them into nonexistance
he even wants to puppetmaster what language people have to stick to. he doesnt want devs to make bitcoin fullnode apps in rust, java, go or other languages.
and his mindset of if its not CORE then its not bitcoin

it has been funny watching his ego at play. flipping that its open source then flopping at anyone trying to be independent. especially his blockstream 'defensive patent licence'


OK, but what happens if Satoshi signs a message from one of the first 10 addresses, that says "Craig Wright/the whole case is a fraud"?

Plus it's not about, "if it's not Core, it's not Bitcoin". Bitcoin Core is the reference client, Bitcoin has the most accumulated Proof of Work, the others are forked-shitcoin-scams.

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OK, but what happens if Satoshi signs a message from one of the first 10 addresses, that says "Craig Wright/the whole case is a fraud"?

thats the whole point. what the whole world knows. and whats been added into the court documents are two different things.
take criminal court. there might be many witnesses available to a crime. but if they are not entered into court they cant be used as evidence within the court.
its why many people end up wrongfully imprisoned because they did not get witnesses/evidence into the case. even when witnesses/evidence was available in the world. innocent people get accused of a crime by stupid lack of evidence.. and not bringing other evidence to prove the opposite

yes we can play the roulette game of certain people about possible appeals later. but this case has not been about claiming CSW is a pennyless scammer. but instead that there is a partnership that does have IP
again its not about the coins. its about identifying the kleiman estate and CSW as co-partners of certain IP.
ira's own words are requesting to legitimise the partnership and its IP linkage

the coin debate is for later appeals and cases in other peoples roulette game of who will want to buy out who and how the funds will transfer. and even roulette games of will there be a py out attempt that even turns into another case of non payment... but thats for other cases and other IF scenarios outside of this case

but to more directly address your question. CSW has already tried the game of 'it must be one of the money men or the trust holders or the messenger guy or ira that has the keys and done this to mislead the case' and it proves CSW case that the keys are available 'somewhere' and thus the case continued

so CSW and IRA can just not talk about any public signing, thus no evidence inside the court to discuss. or use it as proof the keys are inplay and accessible to keep the case alive

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just try to mention something about ira's request without making a post about me, without if statements or denial of what the requested words are
just try.

Consider what it is you're asking here.  You want to provide your whackjob spin on what Ira's words mean, then tell us to remove you from the equation.  I'm sorry, but it doesn't work that way.

I have read Ira's words without your loony interpretation attempting to warp it.  Ira's words on their own do not indicate collusion with faketoshi.  YOUR words are the ones suggesting collusion.  If you then want me to consider your insane fairytale about what Ira's words mean, YOU then become the source, because these then become YOUR words, NOT Ira's.  Reading Ira's words as many times as you'd like me to will not add any legitimacy to YOUR perspective.  You don't get to speculate about someone else's motives and then demand everyone has to take your guesswork as some sort of gospel truth. 

Same goes for every other topic you have ever participated in where you tell someone they need to read more to understand your unique take on things.  Take the damn hint.  No one ever sees it the way you do.  You are a fruitcake and normal people clearly process the available information differently to you.  We can't see your conspiratorial intrigue here.  It's all in your head.  I could read Ira's words another thousand times and still not see any evidence of collusion with faketoshi.  So just do what you normally do, call us all sheep and move on to the next topic where you totally fail to convince us of anything.

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we need a cheat sheet or something. it all blurs together. like, even worse than before.

my worthless opinion? dementia.
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