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May 28, 2020, 10:14:53 AM
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Im quite surprised on what i have searched.In geometric aspect when talking about dice then it do talks about
6 sides but this one --
https://i.imgur.com/pTeDHFV.png
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice
I really don't accept that as a kind of DICE. MindBlowing.

I guess we are just being too literal on words. We all know, after all, that everything is done online and through RNG. I mean, what's the fuss?

Or should we just stick to what words typically or even traditionally mean and invent a new one every time a new variation comes out?

What I am trying to say is that we are actually overthinking about it and are complicating things. A dice could have 8 sides as a coin could be a square.

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May 28, 2020, 10:19:50 AM
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What I am trying to say is that we are actually overthinking about it and are complicating things. A dice could have 8 sides as a coin could be a square.

We are, and we don't need a further discussion about this topic as we all know that dice games are not literally based dice format in terms of chances of winning for both gambling site and gamblers, casinos do operate for a profit so it's normal that they have the edge and what matters is that the game is provably fair although we also have to accept that we don't have an edge on this game.

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May 28, 2020, 10:25:50 AM
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Im quite surprised on what i have searched.In geometric aspect when talking about dice then it do talks about
6 sides but this one --
https://i.imgur.com/pTeDHFV.png
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice
I really don't accept that as a kind of DICE. MindBlowing.

I guess we are just being too literal on words. We all know, after all, that everything is done online and through RNG. I mean, what's the fuss?

Or should we just stick to what words typically or even traditionally mean and invent a new one every time a new variation comes out?

What I am trying to say is that we are actually overthinking about it and are complicating things. A dice could have 8 sides as a coin could be a square.
Now you really complicate things.
This could be my last response on this thread, I think I'm going to be sick just by thinking LoL.
(Oyeah, I remember the old coins, they surely has an edge...)

What I am trying to say is that we are actually overthinking about it and are complicating things. A dice could have 8 sides as a coin could be a square.
We are, and we don't need a further discussion about this topic ...
well, you can ask the OP.  Tongue
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May 28, 2020, 10:43:12 AM
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It's not a big deal but I understand what OP is telling and it's not a dice. But we get used to it and there are certain logical reasons why it should be called as a dice whether you don't see it like that.
This is how you understand and if you don't like the term, call it what you want to call but the label that's been tagged to it for a very long time in the crypto gambling industry will still remain calling it as a dice.

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May 28, 2020, 10:45:41 AM
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How come just calling a dice game went that far into researching in wikipedia, google and more?  Grin

What is the real debate here?
So how are they going to call those kind of games? Roll game maybe? What is rolling? A dice.  Grin

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May 28, 2020, 11:06:09 AM
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So how are they going to call those kind of games? Roll game maybe? What is rolling? A dice

Hi-lo, maybe?

I know that the name may refer to another type of game, which has nothing to do with dice. However, in the early history of online crypto gambling (not sure if there is or was offline crypto gambling, but bear with me), what we refer to here as dice had sometimes been dubbed a hi-lo game. You bet on the outcome which is either above or below a certain number on a scale of 0 to 100 (with decimals involved in more recent implementations), and in that fashion you are betting on a higher or lower number. Hence hi-lo

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May 28, 2020, 11:18:11 AM
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I am amazed why it is called DICE gambling when it has nothing to with dice. RNG picks a number and thats all where is the dice in that. Normally  you have to choose in between 10000 numbers not like dice which has only six sides. Apart from that there is no visual animation corresponding to dice throw still there is picture of dice and it says ROLL, and I say LOL.
great observation mate and yeah,why called Dice when it wasnt really a dice game?or maybe this is called dice because of the harden chance of winning?lol but i get your point and it is indeed not good to call as it.
How come just calling a dice game went that far into researching in wikipedia, google and more?  Grin

What is the real debate here?
So how are they going to call those kind of games? Roll game maybe? What is rolling? A dice.  Grin

they wanted to make amendments about the title of the game,so there will be a hearing from senate and lower house to make this possible  Grin

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May 28, 2020, 02:39:10 PM
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Well it's kind of funny but I think the name is not because of the looks of the game but the way and how simple it is to just roll just like a rolling a dice. If you think it in this way that the game is actually a dice but with all real numbers in between. So like a dice from 1 to 6 with infinite real numbers in between each digits Cheesy
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May 28, 2020, 03:01:37 PM
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You do realise that almost every online game online is based on the concept of "RNG picks a number" and spits it out as your result right?

This is the same for blackjack, roulette, slots. How that RNG works out is different, but everything else is visualisation.

Shall we stop calling these blackjack/roulette, slots etc.?


No because we have corresponding visual animation every time, like spinning roulette with a jumping ball, dealer and player with some cards. But here we do not have any.
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May 28, 2020, 03:09:41 PM
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No because we have corresponding visual animation every time, like spinning roulette with a jumping ball, dealer and player with some cards. But here we do not have any.

Be sure to recommend that to all dice sites then. So I was right, the visualisation is really all it takes to satisfy you, then I'm sure a lot of sites would be happy to accommodate big whales who want to see the dice visuals. Who knows, if you get a petition going it might get some traction? The example I showed is perfect, right?

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No because we have corresponding visual animation every time, like spinning roulette with a jumping ball, dealer and player with some cards. But here we do not have any.

Be sure to recommend that to all dice sites then. So I was right, the visualisation is really all it takes to satisfy you, then I'm sure a lot of sites would be happy to accommodate big whales who want to see the dice visuals. Who knows, if you get a petition going it might get some traction? The example I showed is perfect, right?

Well visualization is a big part of online gambling experiencing and most of us here will agree to this. I do not know if my satisfactions is of utmost importance here.
May be the way I wrote the subject of this thread makes people think that I want an immediate change to something which I think is wrong.
But that is not the case I just wanted to share some thoughts on this matter and I am grateful that so many learned members here are finding it worthy enough to ponder some thoughts on it.
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May 28, 2020, 04:40:14 PM
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Normally  you have to choose in between 10000 numbers not like dice which has only six sides.



Lolol.  Whooaaa check out those dicezzz duuuude.  Cheesy
I used to have some similar to these. We bought them for D&D, played once, then moved to another country leaving those lovely 12-sided and 20-sided dice behind (it was a mistake, we're still looking for them after almost a year of being home).
I am amazed why it is called DICE gambling when it has nothing to with dice. RNG picks a number and thats all where is the dice in that. Normally  you have to choose in between 10000 numbers not like dice which has only six sides. Apart from that there is no visual animation corresponding to dice throw still there is picture of dice and it says ROLL, and I say LOL.
I am sorry, but it's such a common name for the game that there's little chance people would change it. And if they decide not to use the word 'dice', what should all the websites like Primedice and Bustadice do with their names...? And what should be the alternative? High-low? Roll? It's good that you are not urging to change and are just sharing thoughts (based on your last reply) because change is not an option on such a settled matter.

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May 28, 2020, 05:09:06 PM
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It's good that you are not urging to change and are just sharing thoughts (based on your last reply) because change is not an option on such a settled matter.
Yes, that is only a matter of thought for all members here. The OP is not urgent, but only conveys his thoughts. I dont think the thinking is wrong, its just that this will make everyone think twice why online dice have quite a big difference despite having the same concept (roll). The appearance may be different but the concept of the game itself makes it the same. The problem is only with numbers, I think.

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May 28, 2020, 06:14:47 PM
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I remember when playing the ludo app, in the section get a daily coin you will guess 3 opportunities that will appear 1-6, 7, 8-12 before the roll of the dice, if you choose the right choice, then you will win. I will simplify it into 2 chances namely 1-6 and 7-12, so regardless of the number of dice created on the online dice, if the game mechanism is the same then only 2 opportunities arise.

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May 28, 2020, 07:12:14 PM
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This isn't really a big deal for me. As an experienced crypto casino gambler It's natural for us to play new or developed games in the crypto casino because cryptocurrency is part of the new technology and it is just keeping evolving as time goes. Calling it as a dice has no effect with me as long as I know the rules on how to play it, The only thing I am concerned is when a starting gambler heard it, I will be sure that he will think about a real dice with 6 sides which can lead into confusion.
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This isn't really a big deal for me. As an experienced crypto casino gambler It's natural for us to play new or developed games in the crypto casino because cryptocurrency is part of the new technology and it is just keeping evolving as time goes. Calling it as a dice has no effect with me as long as I know the rules on how to play it, The only thing I am concerned is when a starting gambler heard it, I will be sure that he will think about a real dice with 6 sides which can lead into confusion.

   It's not a big deal for me either Abel1337, but this is interesting topic and I think that game deserves to be
called with the right name! I call it dice game too, and I play it, but maybe this name is not suitable, or it's
what I think about it!
   I think OP should add some pool, to see what would community say about which name be more suitable for
this game that we all like to play!



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May 28, 2020, 08:14:54 PM
Last edit: May 28, 2020, 08:32:04 PM by ralle14
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I think you should call it "the best gambling game in bitcointalk" since people here seem to like it very much.

oh really  ? i didnt notice it  .  i was also busy lately so i havent read many post from this section   .

 you said only on bitcointalk but what about on other site or simply other people  , do they still like dice game ?  well for me i notice outside that people love to play other games because they are enjoyable and winnable compare to dice   but hey we arent here to compare dice   .
Other online gamblers that don't know bitcointalk are probably used to playing on casinos that have third provider games and those casinos rarely have dice. Also I remember reading a thread about the early times of bitcointalk and the first gambling site that launched here was a dice site.

   I think OP should add some pool, to see what would community say about which name be more suitable for
this game that we all like to play!
Deisik mentioned hi lo, it could be a good alternative name for dice but having a different name for the game would only confuse others when most of us are used to calling it dice.

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May 28, 2020, 09:06:06 PM
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How come just calling a dice game went that far into researching in wikipedia, google and more?  Grin

What is the real debate here?
So how are they going to call those kind of games? Roll game maybe? What is rolling? A dice.  Grin

Actually you cant really stop people on making such question but it is really indeed valid to be discussed on.People will surely dig on or make up some simply search.

It isnt a debate though but sharing of ideas and thats the essence of a forum.It not really that bad though to make up some these kind of topics.  Wink



Just really laughed out on the image that posted by Lutpin with several types of real life dice. About calling those current dice games nowadays with DICE then just let it be..

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May 29, 2020, 04:51:09 AM
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How come just calling a dice game went that far into researching in wikipedia, google and more?  Grin

What is the real debate here?
So how are they going to call those kind of games? Roll game maybe? What is rolling? A dice.  Grin

they wanted to make amendments about the title of the game,so there will be a hearing from senate and lower house to make this possible  Grin

That might help to make it faster.
Hi-lo, maybe?
Sound like a combined Jai Alai and Lotto.  Grin
Online dice games are evolved from traditional dice games, so I think it ’s okay to call them dice
No, I'll see you in court.
There should be something else that will have a better ring to it.

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