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June 03, 2020, 11:41:07 AM
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True, but not all unpopular opinions are treated equally.  Like it or not, these social media platforms have become the place where ideas congregate, where humans virtually "assemble," both things that are protected by the first amendment.  It's painfully obvious that they shadow ban, or out-right ban proponents of conservative ideals.  On the other hand they are businesses, which are free to conduct business any way they choose.  I would never condone restrictions on free enterprise.  However, when free enterprise are extended certain protections for one reason or another, they should not be allowed to abuse those protections.  It was our government that provided them with those protections in the first place, so it's up to us to act when there is abuse.

Would you classify Twitter as a monopoly and/or a publisher? Twitter does not have to vet its content nor are they held liable for their content and I think most people agree that a private company cannot possibly be held liable for everything that its millions of users put out. This would take care of the publisher issue where they're free of liability. Twitter's competitor Facebook doesn't make Twitter a monopoly so I don't believe they're the only platform for users to congregate politically. It's certainly the most popular, but not the only one.

I am more likely to support an effort by our government to educate the public, but that begs the question of where and how?  Schools?  Colleges?  Can we really expect some of the most liberal organizations in this country to support such a conservative notion as freedom of speech?  Many of these organizations are directly responsible for political correctness, which is a form of suppression of speech.  

Colleges have a responsibility to teach its students open discourse and to engage with ideas that they disagree with. Unfortunately PC culture have turned them into extreme lefty echo chambers where you're considered racist for not going along with the norm. Stories were floating around with professors endorsing violence against conservative speakers when they would do a lecture on campuses. Then there's that time a 5'7 jew set foot on campus at UC Berkley which nearly caused people to burn the campus down:

Ben Shapiro Lecture causes 9 people to be arrested - https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-berkeley-protest-shapiro-20170914-htmlstory.html

It's been a long time since I've been in a class room but I remember taking a critical thinking class in college.  However, I don't see many implementing those skills.  The most critical thing being ignored by liberals in this particular social media battle is that the shoe could very easily be on the other foot.  Imagine if Jack Dorsey was a bible thumping homophobe, shadow banning Planned Parenthood, and transgender-rights groups.  We'd have riots in the streets.

I agree for more critical thinking in colleges but it's difficult when any dissent is classified as hate speech. That's the political culture nowadays.



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June 04, 2020, 04:35:40 AM
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This topic continues to go on, and some people continue to bend over backwards to try to support more regulations and more government control on the internet. Are we sure that we want that to happen?

Unless this is some sort of regulatory stop on tracking me online -- without my explicit opt in -- like some sort of EU privacy (not sure how that works, just assuming here tbh) then I don't want it.

Government regulation and control is going to ruin the internet, do you guys want that? More government control and agencies running this isn't going to help, its going to hurt. I understand that it may bring short term help to conservatives -- but long term all it does is allow for whoever the President is at the time to run the show.




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June 04, 2020, 05:36:37 AM
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This topic continues to go on, and some people continue to bend over backwards to try to support more regulations and more government control on the internet. Are we sure that we want that to happen?

Unless this is some sort of regulatory stop on tracking me online -- without my explicit opt in -- like some sort of EU privacy (not sure how that works, just assuming here tbh) then I don't want it.

Government regulation and control is going to ruin the internet, do you guys want that? More government control and agencies running this isn't going to help, its going to hurt. I understand that it may bring short term help to conservatives -- but long term all it does is allow for whoever the President is at the time to run the show.

The internet IS going to be regulated regardless if we like it or not. If the USA doesn't regulate it, the EU will, and by default that will be the precedent by which it is regulated by mere lack of action by the USA. These corporate entities are abusing protections granted to them at a time when their industry was small and weak to enable them to grow. Now they are strong and dominate the venues of modern discourse.

They should not be allowed to violate their protections as open platforms while acting as publishers. They should not be allowed to abuse their monopoly positions. They should not be allowed to dictate the directions of elections by interfering with them by picking and choosing which candidates and their supporters get to speak by enforcing the rules only for their opponents, and editorializing only their opposition. I guess to you people election meddling is fine, as long as you are doing the meddling.
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June 04, 2020, 07:25:56 AM
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The internet IS going to be regulated regardless if we like it or not. If the USA doesn't regulate it, the EU will, and by default that will be the precedent by which it is regulated by mere lack of action by the USA. These corporate entities are abusing protections granted to them at a time when their industry was small and weak to enable them to grow. Now they are strong and dominate the venues of modern discourse.

They should not be allowed to violate their protections as open platforms while acting as publishers. They should not be allowed to abuse their monopoly positions. They should not be allowed to dictate the directions of elections by interfering with them by picking and choosing which candidates and their supporters get to speak by enforcing the rules only for their opponents, and editorializing only their opposition. I guess to you people election meddling is fine, as long as you are doing the meddling.

I'm getting Bernie Sanders vibes from this post, except the rant is about Twitter instead of 'the 1%'.  Weird.

So what happens when one of them just relocates to the UK or the next big social media site is based out of Canada (just examples).
Do we sanction them?  Declare them enemies of America?  Build the great MAGA fire wall so nobody in America can see it?
I agree some sort of regulations are in order.  But democracies around the world need to come together to figure out what the best solution might look like.

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June 04, 2020, 12:38:29 PM
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I'm getting Bernie Sanders vibes from this post, except the rant is about Twitter instead of 'the 1%'.  Weird.

So what happens when one of them just relocates to the UK or the next big social media site is based out of Canada (just examples).
Do we sanction them?  Declare them enemies of America?  Build the great MAGA fire wall so nobody in America can see it?
I agree some sort of regulations are in order.  But democracies around the world need to come together to figure out what the best solution might look like.

Perhaps it is because you don't know a good God damned thing about me in spite of your projections otherwise.

What happens is the USA still remains their primary market and they are still regulated under USA law. What happened when the EU passed regulations on them when they are still based in the US? Oh that's right they changed to fit those regulations! Great try at an argument. See you next time.
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June 04, 2020, 01:39:20 PM
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"German official invites Twitter to relocate headquarters to Europe amid Trump feud"

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/500043-german-official-invites-twitter-to-relocate-headquarters-to-europe-amid


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June 04, 2020, 03:36:30 PM
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"German official invites Twitter to relocate headquarters to Europe amid Trump feud"

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/500043-german-official-invites-twitter-to-relocate-headquarters-to-europe-amid



Saw this, doesn't really do anything in the event of the US putting out anti social media regulations because they're going to be forced to follow those regulations when US customers are involved. It's just like the EU's GDPR laws and all their right to be forgotten / deleated stuff -- US companies have to abide by it too, when they're serving EU customers.

But yeah, in the event that the US tries to take the company by force or something like that they'd totally be able to flee. But that's not going to happen. All this was was Trumps rhetoric. Nothing will come of this.




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