Riots after Death of Man in Minneapolis Police Custody

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Minneapolis City Council officially votes to disband police force.

https://kstp.com/news/majority-of-minneapolis-city-council-announces-support-for-dismantling-police-department/5753304/

Tomorrow: Minneapolis renamed "Little Somalia".

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"Dr. Michael Baden to perform independent autopsy on George Floyd"

"Dr. Michael Baden, who previously conducted an independent autopsy of Jeffrey Epstein, will do the examination after the family takes Floyd’s body back from the state, their lawyer said Friday."

https://nypost.com/2020/05/29/ex-nyc-medical-examiner-to-perform-autopsy-on-george-floyd/

[BADecker]

Here's the real reason why local and State governments are shutting down police departments. They are helping Communism come in.


Left-wing extremists following Mao’s Cultural Revolution playbook, and it will lead to mass executions in the streets if we don’t stop them.

Frank Miele at RealClearPolitics.com has penned an outstanding article describing the historical parallels of today’s radical left-wing Antifa / Black Lives Matter riots. Far from “peaceful protests,” the actions and demands of these cultural Marxists closely resemble the history of Mao’s Cultural Revolution or Hitler’s Kristallnacht, the Night of the Broken Glass.

If we do not learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it. Read and learn, then warn others of what’s coming if the radical left-wing uprising isn’t ended.

From RealClearPolitics.com:

[In America last week,] mob violence replaced police as the standard of authority.

When you saw white people taking a knee to prostrate themselves before looters and to renounce their “white privilege,” you also saw parallels to Mao’s Cultural Revolution and Hitler’s Kristallnacht, the Night of Broken Glass.

The Cultural Revolution began with an attack on the old order, the old “privilege” represented by shop owners and college professors. To avoid the mob’s rage, the victims were forced to humiliate themselves publicly and to utter self-denunciations, to confess their “crimes” against the mob’s ideology. But there was no escaping the demented wrath of the self-anointed protectors of virtue. Eventually millions of those intellectuals and entrepreneurs were put to death — sometimes buried up to their necks so that they could continue to abase themselves until their final breath.

Kristallnacht is the name given to a pogrom carried out against Jewish shops, homes, cemeteries and synagogues in November 1938 by Nazi paramilitaries known as Brownshirts.

[BADecker]

I'm anti-police, because if there were no police, governments would have no excuse to attempt to deny us our guns. And they wouldn't have any way to stop us from carrying them.


If you’re “anti-police” then you should not be allowed to call the police for help when other rioting idiots attack YOU

As each day goes by, Democrat Socialists get dumber and dumber. First, they sprayed graffiti on the Lincoln Memorial statue, which makes zero sense, considering what they’re protesting about. (Lincoln literally freed the slaves, you morons, haven’t you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?) Next, they vandalized the streets of Washington D.C. by painting “Defund the Police” on 16th street. Really? Is there an ounce of I.Q. among them at all, anywhere? Then, they’re all screaming that they must be allowed to vote from home using easy-cheat mail-in ballots (Pelosi calls it vote-from-home) because they’re supposedly absolutely terrified of leaving their home to go to a voting precinct, where Covid-19 lurks, awaiting them, but then they gather in masses shoulder to shoulder to spit in the face of black police officers and throw Molotov cocktails at anyone who tells them to calm down.

Now, the whole Left has gone full-tard, begging the U.S. government to get rid of all police, so every day, from now til forever, can be chock full of rioting, looting, raping, murdering, burning, and it’s all part of their moronically hypocritical “fight for justice!” Then comes the ultimate irony, as it always does, to flip the script on the idiots who love to destroy everything when they get frustrated, including people’s lives. The morons who fuel the chaos get scared and call the very cops they hate so much in order to save themselves. The irony is absolutely priceless.

Texas store owner chases tard-o-crats from his store with his chainsaw, so the “anti-police” morons call the police to save themselves

[PopoJeff]

I am not black but I understand their pain and fear for their lives on how they are treated .



The man was killed because of such a simple crime and there was no hard evidence for the crime while the other criminal who murder 9 people was arrested peacefully?

But I also agree that some are using this as excuse to loot on others and I also doesn't get the point of it.

This is a prime example of what's wrong with society.  Half of our population forms their opinion based on a meme.

The real difference here is one person, under the influence of drugs, FOUGHT WITH the police. Police are allowed to use enough force to overcome the force used by the person resisting them. These cops failed to recognize positional asphyxiation while dealing with excited delirium.

The other person surrendered, offered no resistance, and did not fight with the 5 cops who had their guns drawn.

[TECSHARE]

This is a prime example of what's wrong with society.  Half of our population forms their opinion based on a meme.

The real difference here is one person, under the influence of drugs, FOUGHT WITH the police. Police are allowed to use enough force to overcome the force used by the person resisting them. These cops failed to recognize positional asphyxiation while dealing with excited delirium.

The other person surrendered, offered no resistance, and did not fight with the 5 cops who had their guns drawn.

Yeah, but you are LITERALLY HITLER, so we don't have to listen to you.

[BADecker]

This is a prime example of what's wrong with society.  Half of our population forms their opinion based on a meme.

The real difference here is one person, under the influence of drugs, FOUGHT WITH the police. Police are allowed to use enough force to overcome the force used by the person resisting them. These cops failed to recognize positional asphyxiation while dealing with excited delirium.

The other person surrendered, offered no resistance, and did not fight with the 5 cops who had their guns drawn.

Yeah, but you are LITERALLY HITLER, so we don't have to listen to you.

Oh, please give the guy a break. He's all mixed up about the place where his policy authority ends, and the authority of a man begins. If he realized that he was a man, and that policy was just his job - or act - he might learn a little respect for real people.

[PopoJeff]

This is a prime example of what's wrong with society.  Half of our population forms their opinion based on a meme.

The real difference here is one person, under the influence of drugs, FOUGHT WITH the police. Police are allowed to use enough force to overcome the force used by the person resisting them. These cops failed to recognize positional asphyxiation while dealing with excited delirium.

The other person surrendered, offered no resistance, and did not fight with the 5 cops who had their guns drawn.

Yeah, but you are LITERALLY HITLER, so we don't have to listen to you.

Oh, please give the guy a break. He's all mixed up about the place where his policy authority ends, and the authority of a man begins. If he realized that he was a man, and that policy was just his job - or act - he might learn a little respect for real people.

Hey, even Hitler had two eyes, and can easily see the two circumstances in the meme are completely different, based on the criminal's actions, not skin color.

[BADecker]

This is a prime example of what's wrong with society.  Half of our population forms their opinion based on a meme.

The real difference here is one person, under the influence of drugs, FOUGHT WITH the police. Police are allowed to use enough force to overcome the force used by the person resisting them. These cops failed to recognize positional asphyxiation while dealing with excited delirium.

The other person surrendered, offered no resistance, and did not fight with the 5 cops who had their guns drawn.

Yeah, but you are LITERALLY HITLER, so we don't have to listen to you.

Oh, please give the guy a break. He's all mixed up about the place where his policy authority ends, and the authority of a man begins. If he realized that he was a man, and that policy was just his job - or act - he might learn a little respect for real people.

Hey, even Hitler had two eyes, and can easily see the two circumstances in the meme are completely different, based on the criminal's actions, not skin color.

So you never heard of innocent until proven guilty? Too many cop-Hitlers play the part of Judge Dredd.

I'm not saying your job is easy. In fact, it is hard. Take what appears to be a criminal down when he is doing wrong, yet don't hurt him, because your Judge-Dredd mentality might be wrong, and you'd be harming an innocent man.

Get him to court where he can let the jury decide. That's the law of the land, though most people don't know how to enforce it.

[PopoJeff]

This is a prime example of what's wrong with society.  Half of our population forms their opinion based on a meme.

The real difference here is one person, under the influence of drugs, FOUGHT WITH the police. Police are allowed to use enough force to overcome the force used by the person resisting them. These cops failed to recognize positional asphyxiation while dealing with excited delirium.

The other person surrendered, offered no resistance, and did not fight with the 5 cops who had their guns drawn.

Yeah, but you are LITERALLY HITLER, so we don't have to listen to you.

Oh, please give the guy a break. He's all mixed up about the place where his policy authority ends, and the authority of a man begins. If he realized that he was a man, and that policy was just his job - or act - he might learn a little respect for real people.

Hey, even Hitler had two eyes, and can easily see the two circumstances in the meme are completely different, based on the criminal's actions, not skin color.

So you never heard of innocent until proven guilty? Too many cop-Hitlers play the part of Judge Dredd.

I'm not saying your job is easy. In fact, it is hard. Take what appears to be a criminal down when he is doing wrong, yet don't hurt him, because your Judge-Dredd mentality might be wrong, and you'd be harming an innocent man.

Get him to court where he can let the jury decide. That's the law of the land, though most people don't know how to enforce it.

Doesn't change my original statement regarding the difference in arrests depicted in the meme.

[PrimeNumber7]

This is a prime example of what's wrong with society.  Half of our population forms their opinion based on a meme.

The real difference here is one person, under the influence of drugs, FOUGHT WITH the police. Police are allowed to use enough force to overcome the force used by the person resisting them. These cops failed to recognize positional asphyxiation while dealing with excited delirium.

The other person surrendered, offered no resistance, and did not fight with the 5 cops who had their guns drawn.

Yeah, but you are LITERALLY HITLER, so we don't have to listen to you.

Oh, please give the guy a break. He's all mixed up about the place where his policy authority ends, and the authority of a man begins. If he realized that he was a man, and that policy was just his job - or act - he might learn a little respect for real people.

If you are trying to resist arrest, you are potentially fighting to the death if you are not going to be arrested. The police will attempt to arrest you, but if unable to do so, they are authorized by law to use escalating amounts of force.

There is a reason why you don’t see reports of people getting killed by the police who are surrendering (except when it is fake propaganda).

Also what happened in this case likely had nothing to do with the killer being a police officer. Most likely the killer knew the victim and did not get along with the victim. In other words, this was likely a personal dispute if local reports are to be believed.

[BADecker]

So you never heard of innocent until proven guilty? Too many cop-Hitlers play the part of Judge Dredd.

I'm not saying your job is easy. In fact, it is hard. Take what appears to be a criminal down when he is doing wrong, yet don't hurt him, because your Judge-Dredd mentality might be wrong, and you'd be harming an innocent man.

Get him to court where he can let the jury decide. That's the law of the land, though most people don't know how to enforce it.

Doesn't change my original statement regarding the difference in arrests depicted in the meme.

Exactly what I'm talking about.

It's apparent from your post that you think that I have your password. If I were in a position where you could reach me, you'd probably Judge Dredd me right on the spot, rather than try to show how I damaged you in court.

[PopoJeff]

So you never heard of innocent until proven guilty? Too many cop-Hitlers play the part of Judge Dredd.

I'm not saying your job is easy. In fact, it is hard. Take what appears to be a criminal down when he is doing wrong, yet don't hurt him, because your Judge-Dredd mentality might be wrong, and you'd be harming an innocent man.

Get him to court where he can let the jury decide. That's the law of the land, though most people don't know how to enforce it.

Doesn't change my original statement regarding the difference in arrests depicted in the meme.

Exactly what I'm talking about.

It's apparent from your post that you think that I have your password. If I were in a position where you could reach me, you'd probably Judge Dredd me right on the spot, rather than try to show how I damaged you in court.

If you say so.    That little world inside your brain must be an amazing thing to see.

[BADecker]

This is a prime example of what's wrong with society.  Half of our population forms their opinion based on a meme.

The real difference here is one person, under the influence of drugs, FOUGHT WITH the police. Police are allowed to use enough force to overcome the force used by the person resisting them. These cops failed to recognize positional asphyxiation while dealing with excited delirium.

The other person surrendered, offered no resistance, and did not fight with the 5 cops who had their guns drawn.

Yeah, but you are LITERALLY HITLER, so we don't have to listen to you.

Oh, please give the guy a break. He's all mixed up about the place where his policy authority ends, and the authority of a man begins. If he realized that he was a man, and that policy was just his job - or act - he might learn a little respect for real people.

If you are trying to resist arrest, you are potentially fighting to the death if you are not going to be arrested. The police will attempt to arrest you, but if unable to do so, they are authorized by law to use escalating amounts of force.

There is a reason why you don’t see reports of people getting killed by the police who are surrendering (except when it is fake propaganda).

Also what happened in this case likely had nothing to do with the killer being a police officer. Most likely the killer knew the victim and did not get along with the victim. In other words, this was likely a personal dispute if local reports are to be believed.

They are absolutely NOT authorize by law to  arrest you except if you are doing damage. In the Flyod case, he purportedly was sitting on his car, not doing any damage at all when the cops arrived.

Tell us, which has more strength, Constitutional right to travel, or cops duty to harm someone when he is doing no immediate, observable damage?

That's why cops have a very difficult job if they want to be honest and right. And they often fail to obey the higher law - Constitution. That's the reason many people die at the hands of cops. Cops don't understand their limit. They don't have a general signed court order to bring anybody in without cause. The only reason they get away with it is that people don't know the law, either, and don't realize that when they hire an attorney, they are simply dumping their case into the hands of the court.

Criminal acts by cops on a man-to-man count are way more than probably any other person. Why? Because cops do the same bad things that the crooks do, both on and off the clock. And besides, they illegally limit the rights of people in the name of doing their job.

If cops are going to do mob rule and mob justice in the name of doing their job, who needs them? Anybody can do that. Simply give the people guns, and let them have at it... their mob rule. Just like the cops, but we don't have to pay the people. So it's cheaper.

[BADecker]

So you never heard of innocent until proven guilty? Too many cop-Hitlers play the part of Judge Dredd.

I'm not saying your job is easy. In fact, it is hard. Take what appears to be a criminal down when he is doing wrong, yet don't hurt him, because your Judge-Dredd mentality might be wrong, and you'd be harming an innocent man.

Get him to court where he can let the jury decide. That's the law of the land, though most people don't know how to enforce it.

Doesn't change my original statement regarding the difference in arrests depicted in the meme.

Exactly what I'm talking about.

It's apparent from your post that you think that I have your password. If I were in a position where you could reach me, you'd probably Judge Dredd me right on the spot, rather than try to show how I damaged you in court.

If you say so.    That little world inside your brain must be an amazing thing to see.

Sounds like the authority of being law enforcement gives you a big power trip, even when you're off the job.

[PopoJeff]

So you never heard of innocent until proven guilty? Too many cop-Hitlers play the part of Judge Dredd.

I'm not saying your job is easy. In fact, it is hard. Take what appears to be a criminal down when he is doing wrong, yet don't hurt him, because your Judge-Dredd mentality might be wrong, and you'd be harming an innocent man.

Get him to court where he can let the jury decide. That's the law of the land, though most people don't know how to enforce it.

Doesn't change my original statement regarding the difference in arrests depicted in the meme.

Exactly what I'm talking about.

It's apparent from your post that you think that I have your password. If I were in a position where you could reach me, you'd probably Judge Dredd me right on the spot, rather than try to show how I damaged you in court.

If you say so.    That little world inside your brain must be an amazing thing to see.

Sounds like the authority of being law enforcement gives you a big power trip, even when you're off the job.

Not in the least.  I'm probably the most reasonable guy you'll ever meet.

But I don't really like to waste too much of my time debating with people like you.  I can explain truth's til I'm blue in the face, and you'll come back with some common-man nonsense you read somewhere on the internet.

And that's a real shame, because if anyone believes the nonsense you spew, they're at risk of being injured. They will think they can debate with a cop on the side of the road, "you can't do that !" "You can't arrest me"......  and we've all seen how that turns out. 

[Gyfts]

Also what happened in this case likely had nothing to do with the killer being a police officer. Most likely the killer knew the victim and did not get along with the victim. In other words, this was likely a personal dispute if local reports are to be believed.

I read the same reports. Allegedly a worker of the nightclub spoke out that Chauvin and Floyd knew each other and butt heads in the past but even if they knew each other, to prove intent you need to know exactly the thoughts Chauvin had while he placed his knee on the back of Floyd's neck. Floyd was resisting arrest so submission tactics wasn't unwarranted, but he was extremely negligent for not turning Floyd over on his side after the cuffs were on and they gained control.

I'm sure more information will come out and verify if there truly was conflict between the two but if a 19 year police veteran actually intended to kill George Floyd over a petty personal dispute and throw his life way, throw the book at the guy and let him rot in prison.

[PrimeNumber7]

Also what happened in this case likely had nothing to do with the killer being a police officer. Most likely the killer knew the victim and did not get along with the victim. In other words, this was likely a personal dispute if local reports are to be believed.

I read the same reports. Allegedly a worker of the nightclub spoke out that Chauvin and Floyd knew each other and butt heads in the past but even if they knew each other, to prove intent you need to know exactly the thoughts Chauvin had while he placed his knee on the back of Floyd's neck. Floyd was resisting arrest so submission tactics wasn't unwarranted, but he was extremely negligent for not turning Floyd over on his side after the cuffs were on and they gained control.

I'm sure more information will come out and verify if there truly was conflict between the two but if a 19 year police veteran actually intended to kill George Floyd over a petty personal dispute and throw his life way, throw the book at the guy and let him rot in prison.

Pretty much no matter what, what happened was murder any way you look at it. If they butt heads, this pretty much proves it wasn’t racism, IMO.

My statement about resisting arrest was in general and not in reference to Floyd. Floyd was already restrained and no longer resisting.

[BADecker]

Sounds like the authority of being law enforcement gives you a big power trip, even when you're off the job.

Not in the least.  I'm probably the most reasonable guy you'll ever meet.

But I don't really like to waste too much of my time debating with people like you.  I can explain truth's til I'm blue in the face, and you'll come back with some common-man nonsense you read somewhere on the internet.

And that's a real shame, because if anyone believes the nonsense you spew, they're at risk of being injured. They will think they can debate with a cop on the side of the road, "you can't do that !" "You can't arrest me"......  and we've all seen how that turns out.  

Roughly 90% of the convictions are void judgments. Why? Because to get a valid judgment, you have to have 4 things:
1. The accused;
2. The accuser;
3. An injury of some sort;
4. A witness.

The cop on the stand is the witness. But the State or city (the accuser) never gets on the stand, "viva voce," so there is no accuser. And, in most cases, there was no injury or even threat.

Check court cases, laws and rules of court. You will find that even if the judge, the attorneys, the plaintiff and defendant all agree that they can get rid of one or more of the 4 requirements, they STILL can't drop one of them. They have to all be there, just to hear the case in court.

So, we have roughly 90% of void judgments. Check out what it means to have a void judgment. Almost all the courts are kangaroo courts, because they don't have all of the 4 requirements.

That's where you come in, nice guy Judge Dredd. Since the courts almost never can get a legal conviction, you gotta do the dirty work.

[tiknack]

Is this really how black people are being treated in the US? There are not many black people ( I'd say its less than 1% ) in the conutry I live in so to I'm unable to understand this madness.