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May 31, 2020, 08:52:40 PM
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 It's been a while that I'm subject to moderation abuse,  especially under the French sub-section.

 
 
 
 My account Danydee https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=139084 is banned for 7days from now, / reasons pretty unclears
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May 31, 2020, 08:57:07 PM
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Death threats, gore content (judging your trust ratings). Hm, only 7 days?
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May 31, 2020, 08:58:41 PM
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It should be obvious seeing from your negative feedbacks, just sayin.
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May 31, 2020, 09:03:09 PM
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Death threats, gore content (judging your trust ratings). Hm, only 7 days?

Réputation topic incoming soon. I'm as puzzled as you are regarding to the sentence.
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May 31, 2020, 09:14:37 PM
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Death threats, gore content (judging your trust ratings). Hm, only 7 days?

Réputation topic incoming soon. I'm as puzzled as you are regarding to the sentence.

I will also make my case about this user in the incoming reputation topic.
7 days sounds like a good amount of time for someone to step back and think about his own's actions;
but in this case I believe all hope for betterment is wasted.

My opinion is that the staff's decision in this case (7days temp ban) is too lightweight.
(Like ChiBitCTy's permaban was too punitive)

This user's attitude is toxic;
it discourages new French speaking users to stay around the board and contribute/ask questions about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
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May 31, 2020, 09:51:27 PM
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It's been a while that I'm subject to moderation abuse,  especially under the French sub-section.
Moderation abuse? you must be kidding, right?
 
My account Danydee https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=139084 is banned for 7days from now, / reasons pretty unclears
You should even be grateful it's just 7 day ban basing on what you did. It should be way more than that. Be thankful to the Mods for being lenient to you rather than complain.

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May 31, 2020, 10:08:56 PM
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gore content
Ew yeah, I clicked on that reference link on one of his negs and was treated to a disgusting death pic.  OP, why would you post that here in any context?  I can't read French so I don't understand what that thread is all about.

I'd also say this doesn't appear to be an instance of moderator abuse (though I don't know the whole story).  If anything, bitcointalk is under-moderated if you compare it to the average discussion board.  It's not likely some French mod somehow got a hard-on for harassing you--and in any case, it's only for 7 days.  You're damn lucky you didn't get permabanned.

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May 31, 2020, 10:57:14 PM
Last edit: May 31, 2020, 11:09:25 PM by Saint-loup
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Death threats, gore content (judging your trust ratings). Hm, only 7 days?
Gore content can be easily removed, like all shitposts, OTs, double posts, advertisements removed everyday without any sanctions... people don't need to be banned for that.

Some guidelines:
1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner.

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May 31, 2020, 11:07:07 PM
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Death threats, gore content (judging your trust ratings). Hm, only 7 days?
Gore content can be easily removed, like all shitposts, OTs, double posts, advertisements... people don't need to be banned for that.

Some guidelines:
1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner.

@Saint-Loup : This image is just the tip of the iceberg. I won't ask for a ban just for a picture.

I'd like you to translate for everyone what he wrote in that post and pastebin link :

Ayé, t'a gagné un feedback. Smiley
Ayé, tu m'en vois bien flatté, je te retourne la pareille
Allez bouge encore, je vais me faire un plaisir de te pisser dessus!

Puis je vois pas pourquoi tu t'emporte,  tu aurais très bien pu garder le sol et répondre tout en restant décent !

Allez va voir ça si t'es un homme: https://pastebin.com/YHVUP5MM

Calm and polite you say ??

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May 31, 2020, 11:07:40 PM
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Death threats, gore content (judging your trust ratings). Hm, only 7 days?
Gore content can be easily removed, like all shitposts, OTs, double posts, advertisements... people don't need to be banned for that.

Some guidelines:
1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner.

It's not a question of how easy it is to remove.
It is a question of how relevant it is to Bitcoin and Bitcointalk.

You quote sirius :

Some guidelines:
1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner.

Your argument doesn't apply here to the gore element, since it isn't an expression of free speech.
It is the publication of a visually disturbing picture, following death threats towards other forum users.

Also, how is that being presented in a calm and polite manner ?

[/!\DISTURBING NSFW/!\ LINK TO THE OP POST ARCHIVE WITH GORE CONTENT OF A DEAD BODY WITH THE HEAD BLOWN UP]

There's a poll whose question is : "How does that make you feel ?"
Choices are :

- Fear
- Anxiety
- Frustration
- Oh shit his head has blown up !
- Motherfucker has such a head
- You turn your head and pass to something else
- Paralyzed

Right following death threats that Halab is referring to in the post above.
It is bullying at it's finest.



Saint-loup, what's the relevance of that post to Bitcoin, please ? Can we openly threaten to organize the hanging of someone ? Huh
Is this 4chan ?
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May 31, 2020, 11:30:58 PM
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Saint-loup, what's the relevance of that post to Bitcoin, please ?
Like 80% of your posts on the french board. They are disputes and conflicts with other regular members... This one was just the last one of the month.

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May 31, 2020, 11:36:42 PM
Last edit: May 31, 2020, 11:48:36 PM by yogg
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Saint-loup, what's the relevance of that post to Bitcoin, please ?
Like 80% of your posts on the french board. They are disputes and conflicts with other regular members... This one was just the last one of the month.

This is off-topic and you are derailing the conversation.
You can always open a thread in Reputation about your allegations.

EDIT : I will still make my case in the thread that is to be opened about OP in Reputation.
We will see how true your allegations are and how you are trying to smear me.



Since you derailed the conversation, please let's get back to the original question :

Saint-loup, what's the relevance of that post to Bitcoin, please ? Can we openly threaten to organize the hanging of someone ? Huh

I'll reply : None, and hell no.
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May 31, 2020, 11:49:24 PM
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Saint-loup, what's the relevance of that post to Bitcoin, please ?
Like 80% of your posts on the french board. They are disputes and conflicts with other regular members... This one was just the last one of the month.

This is off-topic and you are derailing the conversation.
You can always open a thread in Reputation about your allegations.

EDIT : I will still make my case in the thread that is to be opened about OP in Reputation.
We will see how true your allegations are and how you are trying to smear me.



Since you derailed the conversation, please let's get back to the original question :

Saint-loup, what's the relevance of that post to Bitcoin, please ? Can we openly threaten to organize the hanging of someone ? Huh

I'll reply : None, and hell no.
Why are you asking me a question if you don't want to hear the answer?  Roll Eyes
Very interesting posts to start the month BTW...
Good night

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June 01, 2020, 12:02:41 AM
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I'd like you to translate for everyone what he wrote in that post and pastebin link :

If Google Translate is not deceiving me, this sounds like a direct death threat. Anything less than a permaban for that is a slap on the wrist.
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June 01, 2020, 12:03:29 AM
Last edit: June 01, 2020, 12:23:06 AM by yogg
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Why are you asking me a question if you don't want to hear the answer?  Roll Eyes
Very interesting posts to start the month BTW...
Good night

Where did you see that I don't want to hear the answer ?
I am very interested in the answer. You are making assumptions here.

When I replied, I gave my opinion but yours greatly interests me. Smiley



Also, what does this mean :
Very interesting posts to start the month BTW...

I miss to see the point ? Huh
How is all this relevant to OP or the comments about OP behavior ?



@Saint-loup :
Don't forget to address this :

@Saint-Loup : This image is just the tip of the iceberg. I won't ask for a ban just for a picture.

I'd like you to translate for everyone what he wrote in that post and pastebin link :

Ayé, t'a gagné un feedback. Smiley
Ayé, tu m'en vois bien flatté, je te retourne la pareille
Allez bouge encore, je vais me faire un plaisir de te pisser dessus!

Puis je vois pas pourquoi tu t'emporte,  tu aurais très bien pu garder le sol et répondre tout en restant décent !

Allez va voir ça si t'es un homme: https://pastebin.com/YHVUP5MM

Calm and polite you say ??
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June 01, 2020, 12:43:28 AM
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@Saint-loup :
Don't forget to address this :
~snip

And you could you translate and explain that?
Why were you joking about that? Why were you talking about this kind of thing on the french board? It was just 3 days earlier.

Merci, mais non merci, j'en ai assez vu ici pour savoir que je n'ai pas envie d'échanger avec toi IRL.

Je t'en prie. La non-envie d'échanger est mutuelle, et puis j'ai pas envie de me prendre un coup de schlass non plus.  Lips sealed
("schlass" means knife in french slang)

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June 01, 2020, 12:52:07 AM
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@Saint-loup :
Don't forget to address this :
~snip

And you could you translate and explain that?
Why were you joking about that? Why were you talking about this kind of thing on the french board? It was just 3 days earlier.

Merci, mais non merci, j'en ai assez vu ici pour savoir que je n'ai pas envie d'échanger avec toi IRL.

Je t'en prie. La non-envie d'échanger est mutuelle, et puis j'ai pas envie de me prendre un coup de schlass non plus.  Lips sealed
("schlass" means knife in french slang)

Again, this is off-topic and has nothing to do with OP.
You are further trying to derail the conversation.

Open a different thread about this specific point, and I'll address this specific point.



You are still very elusive here :

@Saint-loup :
Don't forget to address this :

@Saint-Loup : This image is just the tip of the iceberg. I won't ask for a ban just for a picture.

I'd like you to translate for everyone what he wrote in that post and pastebin link :

Ayé, t'a gagné un feedback. Smiley
Ayé, tu m'en vois bien flatté, je te retourne la pareille
Allez bouge encore, je vais me faire un plaisir de te pisser dessus!

Puis je vois pas pourquoi tu t'emporte,  tu aurais très bien pu garder le sol et répondre tout en restant décent !

Allez va voir ça si t'es un homme: https://pastebin.com/YHVUP5MM

Calm and polite you say ??
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June 01, 2020, 01:00:22 AM
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I was just trying to explain why Danydee could have done that. But you don't care. Like always, you did nothing wrong...

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June 01, 2020, 01:09:41 AM
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I was just explaining why Danydee could have done that. But you don't care.

"that". What ?
Resort to death threats ?

No, I don't care. Death threats should not be tolerated.
I do not bend easily to terrorists.

If I understand correctly, you sympathize to and support his death threats ?



Like always, you did nothing wrong...

Why do you go off-topic again ? Huh

This thread is not about me.
If you have proof of any wrongdoing from me, for the 3rd time, open a distinct thread in Reputation about it.

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I was just explaining why Danydee could have done that. But you don't care.

"that". What ?
Resort to death threats ?

No, I don't care.
I do not bend easily to terrorists.

If I understand correctly, you sympathize to and support his death threats ?



Like always, you did nothing wrong...

Why do you go off-topic again ? Huh

This thread is not about me.
If you have proof of any wrongdoing from me, for the 3rd time, open a thread in Reputation about it.
I don't support death threats that's why I don't understand why you were making fun about being stabbed by another member 3 days before. I just hope it's not a game for you to make people so mad at you.

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