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June 04, 2020, 04:45:42 AM
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Limitado ang option sa mismong application ng Ledger o ang Ledger live pagdating sa iba pang teknikal na bagay na nais natin gawin sa ating wallet address. Isa na dito ay ang pag sisign ng message. Ngunit paano nga ba ito maisakatuparan? Kinakailangan mong mag download ng Electrum sa https://electrum.org/#home. Susubukan kong gawing mas simple ang bawat steps para madaling sundan. Simulan na natin

Unang gagawin:I-connect muna nag ledger sa PC or laptop at siguraduhing nasa "Use Wallets to view accounts" ka na matatagpuan sa bitcoin app sa iyong Ledger.


Next na gagawin: I open ang Electrum App at palitan ang default name ng Wallet sa iyong nais. Sa akin "Hardware" ang nilagay ko


Sunod na gagawin: Panatilihing nasa "Standard Wallet" and radio selection at i click ang "Next".


Sunod na gagawin: Piliin ang "Use a Hardware Device" at i click ang "Next", ang kasunod na step ay isa lang naman ang choice kaya "Next" ulit.

Next na gagawin: Pumili ng wallet na gusto mong i import sa electrum. Sa akin halimbawa ay yung Legacy Wallet at i-click ang "Next".


Kasunod: I check ang "Encrypt Wallet file" para masiguradong kailangan ang Hardware (Ledger) sa tuwing bubuksan ang wallet.

Ilagay lamang ang Address, Message, at Signature ng iyong signed message na makikita sa ibaba.


Next na gagawin: Magtungo sa tab ng "Addresses" at pumili ng Address na nais mong i sign.


Next: Magsulat ng message na nais mong ilagay, then click "Sign". Note* na kailangan mong i click ang yes sa iyong Leger Hardware.


Successful ka nang nakapag Sign ng Message gamit ang iyong Ledger Hardware at Electrum!

Maraming website at tools na maaaring gamitin upang ma verify ang signed message na iyong ginawa, isa na dito ay gamit ang brainwalletx.github.io/#verify


Maraming salamat sa pag babasa, sana ay napahatid ko ng maayos ang tutorial na ito.  Cool
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June 04, 2020, 06:22:58 AM
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Tamang tama at nais kong matuto kung paano mag sign ng message gamit yung ledger na nabili ko, mukang madali lang naman pala itong gawin. Safe ba na icconnect ang ledger hardwallet sa electrum? or pwede ba yung mag sign ka ng message gamit ang app ng ledger mismo?

Additional question lang den if ok lang sana, may way ba to know your private keys sa ledger in case na mawala mo yung sinulatan mo?

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June 04, 2020, 10:01:25 AM
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Safe ba na icconnect ang ledger hardwallet sa electrum? or pwede ba yung mag sign ka ng message gamit ang app ng ledger mismo?

Sa tingin ko, safe naman na iconnect ang ledger sa electrum dahil kasama talaga sa feature ng electrum na makapagconnect ka ng hardware wallet dito. The reason is because kahit na iconnect mo ang ledger mo sa electrum, hindi mo parin makikita yung private key mo which is main feature ng hardware wallet. But kung titignan mo yung seeds na ma ccreate mo gamit ang electrum, yun lang yung addresses na merong private key na pwede mong makita.

Additional question lang den if ok lang sana, may way ba to know your private keys sa ledger in case na mawala mo yung sinulatan mo?

Gaya nung nauna, since protected ang private key, ang kailangan mo lang i save ay yung recovery phrase. Ayon sa Official Ledger mismo, yun lamang ang iyong backup. Kaya siguro apat na paper yung kasama nung ledger ko wayback nung binili ko ito para mabackup ng maigi.
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June 04, 2020, 11:01:15 AM
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Safe ba na icconnect ang ledger hardwallet sa electrum?
Yes, dahil safe parin sa Ledger ung private keys mo. Problems arise only if nagdownload ka ng fraudulent Electrum wallet tapos pina-input sayo ung 24-word seed mo, which obviously hindi mo dapat gagawin.

Additional question lang den if ok lang sana, may way ba to know your private keys sa ledger in case na mawala mo yung sinulatan mo?
Wala. Kasi kung may paraan, it would be a security vulnerability.

Kung di ka sure kung tama ung sinulat mong 24-words, merong Recovery Check[1] app ang Ledger available on Ledger Live.


[1] https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360007223753-Recovery-Check

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June 04, 2020, 01:16:53 PM
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Safe ba na icconnect ang ledger hardwallet sa electrum? or pwede ba yung mag sign ka ng message gamit ang app ng ledger mismo?

Sa tingin ko, safe naman na iconnect ang ledger sa electrum dahil kasama talaga sa feature ng electrum na makapagconnect ka ng hardware wallet dito. The reason is because kahit na iconnect mo ang ledger mo sa electrum, hindi mo parin makikita yung private key mo which is main feature ng hardware wallet. But kung titignan mo yung seeds na ma ccreate mo gamit ang electrum, yun lang yung addresses na merong private key na pwede mong makita.
I see medyo complicated lang and scary at the same time lalo na kung may laman yung ledger mo pero siguro tama ka mate na safe naman ang electrum as long as legit yung app na meron ka. Pero you can make your sign message naman sa electrum diba even if wala kang ledger HW?


Additional question lang den if ok lang sana, may way ba to know your private keys sa ledger in case na mawala mo yung sinulatan mo?
Wala. Kasi kung may paraan, it would be a security vulnerability.

Kung di ka sure kung tama ung sinulat mong 24-words, merong Recovery Check[1] app ang Ledger available on Ledger Live.


[1] https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360007223753-Recovery-Check
This is very helpful mate since I'm quiet doubt about my keys kase wala naman laman ledger ko honestly so hinde sya masyadong gamit, just want to make sure lang na tama pa ang keys na hawak ko, this is a big help for me.

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June 04, 2020, 01:54:19 PM
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I see medyo complicated lang and scary at the same time lalo na kung may laman yung ledger mo pero siguro tama ka mate na safe naman ang electrum as long as legit yung app na meron ka. Pero you can make your sign message naman sa electrum diba even if wala kang ledger HW?

Isa sa mga dapat mong isaalang alang ay mag download ka ng bagong update ng Electrum dahil sa mismong page nila ay may nakalagay na warning:

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Warning: Electrum versions older than 3.3.4 are susceptible to phishing. Do not download Electrum from another source than electrum.org, and learn to verify GPG signatures.

At tama ka jan mate, hindi mo kailangan ng ledger or any hardware wallet para makapag sign ng message sa electrum. Kahit yung seed ng wallet na magagawa mo sa mismong app pwede na i sign.

Share ko na din, isa sa mga reasons kung bakit magandang matututunan natin kung pano mag sign ay para ma verify na tayo talaga yung owner ng wallet address. Isa rin itong paraan para maprotektahan ang account natin halimbawa sa Meta, yung thread na Stake your bitcoin address here, whenever our account gets hacked, possible natin mapatunayan na satin yung account gamit ang pag sign ng message sa address na instake natin.
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June 04, 2020, 02:39:15 PM
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Isa sa mga dapat mong isaalang alang ay mag download ka ng bagong update ng Electrum dahil sa mismong page nila ay may nakalagay na warning:
Yes! But it doesn't mean na updated eh free ka na din from getting phished. That is why it is crucial to make a habit verifying the Electrum developers pub_keys before downloading.

[1] Mac Os
[2] Windows
[3] [GUIDE] How to Safely Download and Verify Electrum [Guide]

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June 06, 2020, 04:16:13 AM
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I see medyo complicated lang and scary at the same time lalo na kung may laman yung ledger mo pero siguro tama ka mate na safe naman ang electrum as long as legit yung app na meron ka. Pero you can make your sign message naman sa electrum diba even if wala kang ledger HW?

Yan din yung naramdaman ko nung first time kong mag-sign ng message using Ledger Nano S. Though meron din naman online instructions on how to do it, medyo kinabahan pa din ako. All in all, naging smooth naman yung pag sign ko ng message (na ginamit kong pang-Stake). Nagiging problem ko lang recently, parang nahihirapang mag SYNC yung Electrum wallet ko and then ayun, hindi din makaconnect yung Ledger ko. Siguro gawa ng internet connection ko pero I highly doubt it na yun yung reason.

@Debonaire217 Thanks for providing this tutorial.
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