[overview] OgNasty vs Vod: DT1 Strength Statistical Comparison

[OgNasty]

As the DT1 strength graphs also suggest, in the past 15 months OG has been gaining DT1 inclusions (+100%), while Vod has been losing them (-19%).
Hope that answers your question.

Nice to see the trend is towards sanity. I guess if you make enough noise people start to listen. Unfortunately in Vod’s case, when the noise you’re making is lying about an honest member of the forum in order to hurt a community organization in an attempt to appease your ego, the results are quite clear. It is unfortunate that there are still members of this forum and even on this thread that give credence to his lies with their support. If there’s one thing that can be learned from society today, it is; just not doing the wrong thing is not enough, people should join others and do the right thing in this case and exclude Vod from their trust network. Leaving Vod a negative trust rating for reasons that have been discussed at length in OP’s mentioned thread is also appropriate according to theymos.

[Vod]

This thread will be great to link through in the OG scam accusation thread, coming soon.  

It will be so entertaining to re-read all the scams OG has committed against this forum once everyone knows w\hat he did.

I'll live with his bullshit and lies for a few more weeks.  It is my intention to lead a class action suit against that scammer once my lawyer says the proof will work in court.   I need to be compensated for all the lies this scammer has spread about me and many many others, just like his ex did.  He fled California to avoid paying for child support and other state charges.  

But don't take my word or OG's lies - my signature contains many non-Vods complaining about OG, si it's not about me as the scammer claims.

My priority is still launching my new site, which will prevent anyone else being scammed by this sociopath.  The proof unfortunately, will have to wait until after that.

Nice to see the trend is towards sanity.

Proof OG supports scammers on DT.

Leaving Vod a negative trust rating for reasons that have been discussed at length in OP’s mentioned thread is also appropriate according to theymos.

Theymos said it was preferable to forgive instead.  Your entire argument against me is based on misquotes.   :/

[OgNasty]

It is my intention to lead a class action suit against that scammer once my lawyer says the proof will work in court.   I need to be compensated for all the lies this scammer has spread about me and many many others, just like his ex did.  He fled California to avoid paying for child support and other state charges.  

A new set of lies from Vod.  Always entertaining.  This is a clear example of why Vod should not be trusted and why his "DT1 Strength" is plummeting.

Do the right thing and join others in adding ~Vod to your trust settings in order to exclude him from your network for this type of dishonest behavior.

[Vod]

A new set of lies from Vod.

A great example of deflection   If you want to continue calling me a liar until the end, that's OK.  But if you want to settle your scam debts, better do it before we file our suit.  Many people have committed to recovering at least part of what you scammed them for.   You and the other DT scammers are going to have to add a lot more names to your "distrust list".  :/

Now you are acting like Techy and claiming you know what I am going to do?

Do the right thing, and email me if you were scammed by OG.  Get your coin back.

[TECSHARE]

A great example of deflection   If you want to continue calling me a liar until the end, that's OK.  But if you want to settle your scam debts, better do it before we file our suit.  Many people have committed to recovering at least part of what you scammed them for.   You and the other DT scammers are going to have to add a lot more names to your "distrust list".  :/

Now you are acting like Techy and claiming you know what I am going to do?

Do the right thing, and email me if you were scammed by OG.  Get your coin back.

You can sue some one for putting mustard on a ham sandwich Vod, that doesn't prove anything. Where are all these mythical victims you keep talking about? Weird I haven't seen a signal one of them come forward to voice their complaints.

On the up side of this, I hope you do sue him. Then when you lose, not only will he totally bankrupt you with his lawyers fees which you will then be responsible for, but then he can counter sue you and put you into debt for the rest of your shitty miserable life. I am not going to give up the surprise, but you are in for a big one if you ever actually take this to court and aren't just as full of shit as you usually are.

[Vod]

Weird I haven't seen a single one of them come forward to voice their complaints.

Why would someone with a complaint against a scammer confide in another scammer?   I'm not going to take legal advice from an anonymous troll. 

Read my second last post, troll.  

[OgNasty]

A new set of lies from Vod.

If you want to continue calling me a liar until the end, that's OK.  But if you want to settle your scam debts, better do it before we file our suit.  Many people have committed to recovering at least part of what you scammed them for.

I am still not aware of any user with any sort of legitimate claim against me. Can you name one?

After claiming my home was raided by the IRS, you can’t actually think I’d believe any threat you make against me at this point. You’re a fantasy fiction writer, and judging from your falling “strength” you aren’t a very good one.

[eddie13]

Another thing to think about Dragon, when the new trust system was implemented their was no warning that it was going to happen.. At the time most/many of those who agreed with the current DT system (kinda OG's side) did not have custom trust lists, but many of those who were currently disagreeing with the old DT system had already made extensive custom trust lists (Lauda/Vod side)..

So basically it was quite an unfair start with the disadvantage going to OG..

Another thing is that OG is much more focused on actual business like being an escrow and making high value trades mostly related to collectibles, as opposed to the scambusting, snitching, and drama side with a lot of up-and-comers gunning for DT positions, making big trust lists..


I think OG should possibly look into revising his decision to reinforce Lauda's questionable negative trust on Dragons..

[Vod]

I am still not aware of any user with any sort of legitimate claim against me. Can you name one?

After claiming my home was raided by the IRS, you can’t actually think I’d believe any threat you make against me at this point. You’re a fantasy fiction writer, and judging from your falling “strength” you aren’t a very good one.

Is this "not aware of any victims" the same as "not aware why he sent me this pedo link" claim?    Your knowledge seems to come and go to suit your needs,  You know the names and balances of those you scammed, as I do.  Victims of embezzlement usually do not know they are victim - they are in my signature.  

Was your home raided by the IRS as you claim, or were you audited in October?  At this point OG, your lies no longer have any weight.  Your goal is to prevent me from launching my site which will end your scamming - but I am concentrating on that first, and then reuniting these victims with some of their coin.  

[suchmoon]

I think OG should possibly look into revising his decision to reinforce Lauda's questionable negative trust on Dragons..

Pfftttt... next you're gonna say that "cowardly lying troll" is not a good red trust rating either. Blasphemy.

[OgNasty]

Is this "not aware of any victims" the same as "not aware why he sent me this pedo link" claim?    Your knowledge seems to come and go to suit your needs,  You know the names and balances of those you scammed, as I do.  Victims of embezzlement usually do not know they are victim - they are in my signature.  

Was your home raided by the IRS as you claim, or were you audited in October?  At this point OG, your lies no longer have any weight.  Your goal is to prevent me from launching my site which will end your scamming - but I am concentrating on that first, and then reuniting these victims with some of their coin.  

Yes, I am not aware of any victims, nor am I aware of why you sent me a link to a complaint stating you were a pedophile.  I assume it was because you were drunk?  That's the only reason I ever saw you give for your ludicrous behavior.

No, my house has NEVER been raided by the IRS like YOU claimed, nor have I EVER been audited by the IRS like you also claimed.

My goal is not to prevent you from launching your site.  I don't care about your site.  Nobody else does either.  If you developed it then it's only a matter of time before you're hacked and people lose funds or you lose control of the site like your last project...  All I care about is the truth, and the truth is that I never offered you anything to sponsor your site and once it was clear it was nothing more than a way to try and inflate your ego I wanted nothing to do with that shit show.  Ironically, your attempt to inflate your ego by using stats has backfired as the community's response toward you on this issue is clear from the chart at the beginning of this thread.

You don't scare me with this fake lawsuit made up victim bullshit.  Every time you go down this path all I can say is that you're a liar and a bitch and I hope that I get the opportunity to face you.

Pfftttt... next you're gonna say that "cowardly lying troll" is not a good red trust rating either. Blasphemy.

It's better than the truth, believe me.  The troll who received that feedback sent me messages with threats until I eventually had to block him which led to them creating and derailing threads with lies, which is unacceptable behavior.  Not surprisingly you would side with that user, as you are also a troll suchmoon, and I honestly have no idea why theymos ever gave you any sort of responsibility here.  It's one of his biggest forum mistakes in my opinion and what I consider to be a serious lapse in judgement that I hope is one day corrected.  You should have no input on trust networks or anything else with any value.

[suchmoon]

It's better than the truth, believe me.

I don't believe that being false makes red trust "better".

The troll who received that feedback sent me messages with threats until I eventually had to block him which led to them creating and derailing threads with lies, which is unacceptable behavior.

Still a shitty excuse to use red trust to adjudicate your personal squabbles, particularly considering that you have a history of lying about such things.

Not surprisingly you would side with that user, as you are also a troll suchmoon, and I honestly have no idea why theymos ever gave you any sort of responsibility here.  It's one of his biggest forum mistakes in my opinion and what I consider to be a serious lapse in judgement that I hope is one day corrected.  You should have no input on trust networks or anything else with any value.

Except theymos didn't put me into any trust networks. Perhaps you should learn how the trust system works if you want to pursue that angle of attack on me.

[OgNasty]

I don't believe that being false makes red trust "better".

It wasn't false.  I was accurate and left a reference with a more detailed explanation, although many of the atrocities were left out because they were so vulgar I didn't feel the need to publicly state them.

Still a shitty excuse to use red trust to adjudicate your personal squabbles, particularly considering that you have a history of lying about such things.

When I'm attacked repeatedly by someone who threatens me personally with physical violence and lies about it on the forum even after I've blocked them, it is most definitely reason for me to not trust someone.  That user was clearly seeing how far he could push me before I acted, and I gave him what he wanted.  I also don't have a history of lying at all.  Actually quite the opposite as I have currently the second highest trust rating here.  I would say you have a history of befriending and defending trolls, which has made you susceptible to believing their lies, and your ignorance towards my actions coupled with your easily manipulated mind has placed you in a position where you will believe anything negative that is said about me and repeat it ad nauseam regardless of it being based on any actual truth.

Except theymos didn't put me into any trust networks. Perhaps you should learn how the trust system works if you want to pursue that angle of attack on me.

Trust networks are influenced by merit, and theymos made you a merit source which is the judgement I'm questioning.  Maybe you should learn how the trust system works since theymos has made you the single most influential personal in crafting it's future.  Biggest travesty on bitcointalk in my opinion, as your judgement has been total shit from when you started here.

[eddie13]

Pfftttt... next you're gonna say that "cowardly lying troll" is not a good red trust rating either. Blasphemy.

Might, unless their is good substantial proof of outright lies, whatever you are talking about...
I kinda like Dragons though..

On topic though.. I don't think the whole Vod VS OG situation is helping either of them increase their reputations or trust inclusions, from my perspective.. Probably hurting both..

[suchmoon]

the single most influential personal in crafting it's future

LOL

I think the biggest travesty is you not sharing what you're smoking.

[OgNasty]

I think the biggest travesty is you not sharing what you're smoking.

Use your sig spam money and buy your own.

[Vod]

No, my house has NEVER been raided by the IRS like YOU claimed, nor have I EVER been audited by the IRS like you also claimed.

Riiiiight.....  is this another "only you and Theymos know the truth" response?

I also don't have a history of lying at all.

So the dozens that have provided proof YOU LIE are the liars, while your word should be considered above mathematical proof?   Your history of lying was well documented before I added onto it.  

You loved bitcoin cause it is irreversible, but now you hate it because you forgot about the permanent record.  

Did you return all coins that were sent to you for your investors before pirate collapsed?  You have this fat wallet receiving all this coin from pirate, suddenly the funds vanish and you pay out only a small fraction of what you owed and what you had .  I've been told embezzlement is the proper legal term to use going forward.

But arguing at this point is useless.  Either I release proof you scammed assets now worth over $20,000,000 from profiles here soon, or I don't and leave the forum.  You are running out of time to make good with your investors - don't be guessing I may not have a Royal Flush, because you are about to lose.

It feels more to me like the community is growing a backbone and slowly steering towards doing the right thing and having a valuable trust network which is a win for us all.

Most original DT members feel the network is being overrun by scammers.  Why does OG feel accountability is bad and trust in words over math is good?

It wasn't false.  I was accurate and left a reference with a more detailed explanation, although many of the atrocities were left out because they were so vulgar I didn't feel the need to publicly state them.

Were they more vulgar than raping little boys and girls?  Because you've publicly stated those atrocities about me several times.    

Sociopaths can turn hurt feelings on and off like a switch.  

[OgNasty]

No, my house has NEVER been raided by the IRS like YOU claimed, nor have I EVER been audited by the IRS like you also claimed.

Riiiiight.....  is this another "only you and Theymos know the truth" response?

No.  I suspect you are the only idiot in the world who says my home was raided.  Obviously that was a made up lie along with the IRS Audit and countless other of your fantasies about me.  At least I'm over 18.

Did you return all coins that were sent to you for your investors before pirate collapsed?  You have this fat wallet receiving all this coin from pirate, suddenly the funds vanish and you pay out only a small fraction of what you owed and what you had .  I've been told embezzlement is the proper legal term to use going forward.

But arguing at this point is useless.  Either I release proof you scammed assets now worth over $20,000,000 from profiles here soon, or I don't and leave the forum.  You are running out of time to make good with your investors - don't be guessing I may not have a Royal Flush, because you are about to lose.

I returned all coins that were due to all depositors along with paying out all interest to all depositors.  This explains why you cannot find a victim and why I have never received a single complaint from anyone involved.  As far as I am aware, everyone that was involved was thrilled with my handling of the situation and many continue to trust me to hold funds for them today.  You can't prove what didn't happen, and your word is already worthless so we all know you won't leave bitcointalk until the day you stroke out behind the keyboard.

Were they more vulgar than raping little boys and girls?  Because you've publicly stated those atrocities about me several times.    

What I publicly stated was that you sent me a link to a complaint showing that you were a pedophile and said that is why you have to be careful about your identity.


For those wondering what the long thread of Vod's lies is about...  This is a good example.  He makes wild claims about me filled with lies, I refute them with facts, he continues to spread the lies and makes up new ones.  Don't forget to add ~Vod to your trust settings to exclude what his greed has led him to attack others in order to try to obtain.  This thread is a great example to show with statistics that this community and default trust network is no longer going to stand for this sort of misinformation and harassment.

[Vod]

No.  I suspect you are the only idiot in the world who says my home was raided.

If you gave up two boxes of receipts to someone with authority to take them, would you call that a raid?

This is another example of OG twisting words to make him appear the victim.  Poor OG.  Nothing else really to post as OG cannot change the proof in the blockchain.

[OgNasty]

No.  I suspect you are the only idiot in the world who says my home was raided.

If you gave up two boxes of receipts to someone with authority to take them, would you call that a raid?

This is another example of OG twisting words to make him appear the victim.  Poor OG.  Nothing else really to post as OG cannot change the proof in the blockchain.

You're turning to semantics with your accusations now as if that will save you?  You probably think that's clever.  I'll play along anyway.  I have never handed a box of receipts to anyone of authority in my life, nor have I ever spoken with an IRS Agent.  Don't let those facts stop you from continuing to destroy your reputation with fantasies about me.

This is another example of how Vod tries to insinuate lies about me at the cost of his reputation.  As this thread shows, if this was a "fight" he is very clearly getting his ass kicked in a major way. He's already lost his merit source status, his DT1 Strength is plummeting, he's had a stroke, lost his job, lost his friends, lost control of his website, and is in the process of losing his home forcing him to relocate to a 3rd world country.  Even after all of that, he still sits on here every day telling lies about me.  How absolutely pathetic.