Do Black lives matter or Do all lives matter?

[hornetsnest]

Move aside BLM.We have new new allies incoming     

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[Spendulus]

Move aside BLM.We have new new allies incoming     

Indeed. ALL progressive concepts, that they'd like to "TRY OUT" on the rest of the population.

Two things they all have in common.

They incorporate a transfer of power to those who advocate these "issues."
The actual proposed change is ridiculous and nonsensical.

Two things all the people illustrated have in common.

The believe devoutly in their "cause."
They don't know who upstream is actually yanking their chains.

[PopoJeff]

This whole thing is built on a foundation of lies.

Defund the police
More training
Racist cops
Trigger happy cops
Etc...

Two important numbers, and even basic math can reveal the truth:

Over 10 million arrests per year.
Then find the number of UNJUSTIFIED deaths at the hand of police.  Usually less than 10-12 per year.

That should give you a successful survival rate of around 99.999988% when being arrested by police.

Training of humans that has a 99.999988% success rate sounds pretty good to me.

The success rate can also be increased further if you remove suspects who resisted arrest from the deaths.
Now imagine, if you will, removing suspects who were not committing crime from the numbers....   whoa, mind blown.

[not4mike]

Honestly, there won't be cries for BLM if there wasn't any injustice to the handling of George Floyd's arrest which led to his death instead.

Although I voted (above) for All Lives Matter, mostly because I am not actually Black, but it doesn't remove the fact that I support their cries and calls towards attaining justice.

Also, the various crimes of indifference committed against Blacks on a daily basis in the United States of America has blown the matter out of proportion, because it's becoming pretty obvious and rampant lately.

More importantly, racism is defined as "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

And if you're not oblivious to the fact, then you are most likely contributing to the propagation of this continuing problem as well.

[Spendulus]

... the various crimes of indifference committed against Blacks on a daily basis....

What the fuck are you talking about?

[PopoJeff]

... the various crimes of indifference committed against Blacks on a daily basis....

What the fuck are you talking about?

You know... the ones committed by other blacks.  But it's whitey's fault.

And look how the definition of racism changes to suit a belief.

It used to be properly defined as: discriminating against, or treating someone differently based solely on their race. Or believing one race is superior or inferior to another.
 

[KingScorpio]

Move aside BLM.We have new new allies incoming     

Indeed. ALL progressive concepts, that they'd like to "TRY OUT" on the rest of the population.

Two things they all have in common.

They incorporate a transfer of power to those who advocate these "issues."
The actual proposed change is ridiculous and nonsensical.

Two things all the people illustrated have in common.

The believe devoutly in their "cause."
They don't know who upstream is actually yanking their chains.

how can women be for defunding the police, the police is ensuring they have today more freedom than ever before.

[TECSHARE]

"Why Are Black Conservatives Called Uncle Tom?—Larry Elder Talks George Floyd Protests & New Film"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbhFubiFiqg

[hornetsnest]

Mo Saadallah, brother of Reading stabber Khairi Saadallah, claims his brother was acting in "self defence" when stabbing three people in a public park, and that Britain is simply a racist county.

Mo lists current employment with Amnesty international and Human Rights Watch.

I wonder what would happen to a white academic's reputation and career if they used the same verbiage only this time replacing the term "white" with "black" ? 
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The very definition of racism is when one cannot interchange such words in a sentence freely and without being attacked.

I can assure you that this black supremacist is nothing more than a minion of a greater scheme.A mere cog in the wheel that is increasing speed at a greater rate daily.This useful idiot is stoking extremism among the black community but appealing to a reasonably well educated audience this time.While he pokes and prods with his warped idealogy he is clamouring to the hope students,educators and policy makers will become more radicalised with intolerance towards white males and assume also that a radicalised white female population will join the "revolution" in subdueing the white male once and for all.All actions in the end cause a reaction and this is his objective.He assumes the volatile white males who are ignorant of the fact he is a dangerous agitator will react violently to policies which suppress them further ensuring a more repressive approach is used against them in order to subdue them if this happens.It is enevitable that the goal is to cause a social cataclysm where the white is seen as the violent rabble which needs to be kept in check.Little does he know that he will also be subdued under the same rod once his level of usefulness has been exhausted ;-)


Any "minority" can get away with racism towards whites because its not politically sensitive however for arguments sake lets say I am jewish and state the TRUE fact that Jews played probably the largest role in slave holding and trade during the colonial era and post revolutionary era I would not be attacked but if a christian white stated the same facts they would be labeled as a racist or white supremacist, the excuse would be "this is because whites did not endure the holocaust" yet if you ask any Armenian,they would beg to differ...or if I were black and state the TRUE fact that back in this same post civil war era Black freemen held probably more black slaves than whites in many states I would be correct in stating these facts  whereas if I were white and stated these facts I would be labeled with the same tired old slandering because "whites were not victims of slavery" but this is false because whites from many parts of the world WERE victims of slavery and colonial oppression.Just ask any Irish person.

The key point here is that it is open season on whites and the most racism  today is being directed at straight white males and anyone who disagrees with his mantra is a racist,toxic male,white supremacist,alt right etc etc all the while insidious forces rewrite or misrepresent historical facts and dismiss the same facts as theory or incorrect.History is being rewritten and in some cases where they can get away with it without any consequence erased completely.

The root of this weed is within our global institutions especially "thinktanks",non independent media,colleges,universities and all hijacked arenas of civil discourse where the loudest radical using the latest forms of subversive linguistics to prey upon the most feeble minds gets the most likes and goes viral like a pandemic shitstorm.This in turn breeds a whole new brainwashed electorate who have little more power than a slave has to select his next master.Government then labels this as public service which in effect is anything but service however the population by then has a completely warped sense of what public service means or should mean.

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[Spendulus]

... the various crimes of indifference committed against Blacks on a daily basis....

What the fuck are you talking about?

You know... the ones committed by other blacks.  But it's whitey's fault.

And look how the definition of racism changes to suit a belief.

It used to be properly defined as: discriminating against, or treating someone differently based solely on their race. Or believing one race is superior or inferior to another.
 

No, actually I have no clue what a "crime of indifference" is.

[dupeddonk]

I wonder what would happen to a white academic's reputation and career if they used the same verbiage only this time replacing the term "white" with "black" ?  
...

The very definition of racism is when one cannot interchange such words in a sentence freely and without being attacked.

I can assure you that this black supremacist is nothing more than a minion of a greater scheme.A mere cog in the wheel that is increasing speed at a greater rate daily.This useful idiot is stoking extremism among the black community but appealing to a reasonably well educated audience this time.While he pokes and prods with his warped idealogy he is clamouring to the hope students,educators and policy makers will become more radicalised with intolerance towards white males and assume also that a radicalised white female population will join the "revolution" in subdueing the white male once and for all.All actions in the end cause a reaction and this is his objective.He assumes the volatile white males who are ignorant of the fact he is a dangerous agitator will react violently to policies which suppress them further ensuring a more repressive approach is used against them in order to subdue them if this happens.It is enevitable that the goal is to cause a social cataclysm where the white is seen as the violent rabble which needs to be kept in check.Little does he know that he will also be subdued under the same rod once his level of usefulness has been exhausted ;-)


Any "minority" can get away with racism towards whites because its not politically sensitive however for arguments sake lets say I am jewish and state the TRUE fact that Jews played probably the largest role in slave holding and trade during the colonial era and post revolutionary era I would not be attacked but if a christian white stated the same facts they would be labeled as a racist or white supremacist, the excuse would be "this is because whites did not endure the holocaust" yet if you ask any Armenian,they would beg to differ...or if I were black and state the TRUE fact that back in this same post civil war era Black freemen held probably more black slaves than whites in many states I would be correct in stating these facts  whereas if I were white and stated these facts I would be labeled with the same tired old slandering because "whites were not victims of slavery" but this is false because whites from many parts of the world WERE victims of slavery and colonial oppression.Just ask any Irish person.

The key point here is that it is open season on whites and the most racism  today is being directed at straight white males and anyone who disagrees with his mantra is a racist,toxic male,white supremacist,alt right etc etc all the while insidious forces rewrite or misrepresent historical facts and dismiss the same facts as theory or incorrect.History is being rewritten and in some cases where they can get away with it without any consequence erased completely.

The root of this weed is within our global institutions especially "thinktanks",non independent media,colleges,universities and all hijacked arenas of civil discourse where the loudest radical using the latest forms of subversive linguistics to prey upon the most feeble minds gets the most likes and goes viral like a pandemic shitstorm.This in turn breeds a whole new brainwashed electorate who have little more power than a slave has to select his next master.Government then labels this as public service which in effect is anything but service however the population by then has a completely warped sense of what public service means or should mean.

very well thought out post.  we are being divided and pulled closer and closer to extreme mentalities that most would not have considered just a couple years ago.  theres so much chaos and outrage now that most americans cant or wont step back and try to look at the situation without letting the emotions from your personal nationality or race or political or religious views influence your thoughts.

[hornetsnest]

theres so much chaos and outrage now that most americans cant or wont step back and try to look at the situation without letting the emotions from your personal nationality or race or political or religious views influence your thoughts.

The answer to the OP is yes BOTH black and white lives matter as do all lives who are not attempting to take the life or dignity of others but this hijacked movement (suitable host for these parasites) is only another example of late stage Cultural Marxist Social Engineering for a Post Democratic society.Private members clubs who have been determining your very future whether you like it or not have hundreds of thousands of alumini,key policy makers,legislators,Places within the Judicial system (where key battles are fought and won or lost for your freedom V their tyranny),Key corporate sectors who dominate commodity,banking and now the tech sectors,The backbone or spinal media layers,pipes and conduits who supply narrated and preselected "news" to national private and public outlets,feeds throughout the world. You get the picture.These are the people who are focused on destroying US leadershup throughout the world and are now so well embedded withing the critical US societal dna that its only a matter of time they get their way due to their gradual tactic enabled by the fact the Public and Civil service are unelected and this is where they operate on the ground and their fieldwork is deployed.
The "silent majority" of rational and reasonable moderate class of all colors and creeds are equally to blame with their indifference and apathy while the vindictive marxists become louder and bolder in their tactics and it will be too late when a cataclysm happens that provides the ideal crisis and pretext for the next stage of implementation.They and their useful idiots couldn't care less about and make a mockery of genuine victims of injustice.

How many people who support the BLM movement realize that the inspiration behind the movement is Assata Shakur, a radical feminist and Marxist revolutionary who escaped from prison in 1979 while serving a life sentence for the murder of New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster? She is currently living in communist Cuba.

The actual founders, meanwhile, are three militant lesbian feminists – Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors and Opel Tometi, with Garza widely recognized as the most influential of the three. In 2014 and 2015, the movement emerged as a national presence by declaring war on America’s law enforcement agencies. The group also created a huge stir at Toronto Pride in 2016 by shutting down the parade at the intersection of Yonge and College streets with a cloud of rainbow smoke.

“The atmosphere of Pride (isn’t) very inviting to black queer and trans community members due to the massive police presence,” a spokesperson charged at the time. “Pride Toronto, we are calling you out! For your anti-blackness, your anti-indigeneity,” BLM member Alexandria William shouted during the stoppage. Apart from other demands, they also called for Toronto Pride to stop allowing police floats and booths at the festival and got their way.

Since then, BLM activists have fomented riots, burned and looted cities, and incited followers with chants that have ranged from “What do we want? Dead Cops!” to “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot.” And today, the project is a member-led political global network of more than 40 chapters in four countries. As such, the organization is a violent revolutionary group seen most recently in downtown Seattle where their game is not civil disobedience, but a deliberate effort to remove portions of America from the rule of law through anarchy, often with help from the George Soros-funded terrorist group, Antifa. This while statues and other icons of American history are simultaneously being pulled down and destroyed across the country in a Marxist bid to eradicate its history and ignite revolution.

So it’s no accident the area currently called CHAZ/CHOP has also been dubbed “the Seattle Soviet”.

“They are cultural Marxists,” opines retired political science professor Dr. Carol Swain. Black Lives Matter is not a legitimate civil-rights movement, she says, but a puppet coalition being opportunistically manipulated by the Democrat Party to win the presidency. “It’s part of the cultural Marxist agenda against America using black people to advance a radical agenda that will be destructive to our nation, that will hurt all of us. And it’s hurting us right now.”

The New Anti-Marys

Bottom line? Where the early radical feminists set out to attack the natural order of the family by destroying life itself through abortion and legalized depravity, having now altered their own sexuality, this latest generation of anti-Marys – with the strong support of white, college-educate millennial women — are seeking to destroy the natural order of civilization itself  through anarchy and general lawlessness enabled by the neutering of police forces and all the systems and institutions that have long made neighbourhoods and nations functional and prosperous.

For an example of this, look no further than Seattle Democrat mayor Jenny Durkan, who until June 22 had refused to intervene in her inner city to reverse the violence and return properties to their rightful owners. As yet another deluded and inept female politician, her decisions have been perverse, unjust and dysfunctional as she enables the Marxists now threatening to take over her country via revolution. As of June 22, however, she may be having second thoughts, given the avoidable death of a 19-year-old black youth two days earlier. And at this writing, she was making vague noises about bringing police back into the mix.

This while the same weekend that flames and murder bedevilled downtown Seattle, Chicago suffered its highest murder rate in its modern history. Also reported but still not confirmed were nine Luciferian marches said to be held in large cities across the U.S. at the height of Summer Solstice. What unholy requests were at the heart of that, do you suppose?

[Spendulus]

The answer to the OP is yes BOTH black and white lives matter as do all lives who are not attempting to take the life or dignity of others but this hijacked movement (suitable host for these parasites) is only another example of late stage Cultural Marxist Social Engineering .....reported but still not confirmed were nine Luciferian marches said to be held in large cities across the U.S. at the height of Summer Solstice. What unholy requests were at the heart of that, do you suppose?[/size]

Oh, many illicit things must have occurred in that moonlight, proof is the countless crop circles in the fields.

[hornetsnest]

The answer to the OP is yes BOTH black and white lives matter as do all lives who are not attempting to take the life or dignity of others but this hijacked movement (suitable host for these parasites) is only another example of late stage Cultural Marxist Social Engineering .....reported but still not confirmed were nine Luciferian marches said to be held in large cities across the U.S. at the height of Summer Solstice. What unholy requests were at the heart of that, do you suppose?[/size]

Oh, many illicit things must have occurred in that moonlight, proof is the countless crop circles in the fields.

I laughed at the Archbishop's tweet when I read it thinking it was a joke until I saw it was an actual real event.


........meanwhile

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Quote from: not4mike on June 23, 2020, 03:34:16 AM
Honestly, there won't be cries for BLM .......................


Its the timing.All these hashtag movements .................................".