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June 14, 2020, 09:26:01 AM
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I know about those fancy keyboards that stores your words in the cloud, this is the most easiest way to throw away your recovery seeds, you will be more safer using the default keyboards that come pre installed on your smartphone.
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June 14, 2020, 09:59:05 AM
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For me smartphones are one of the worst things you can use to store your crypto.

If you think otherwise, I have one question for you. If anything breaks in your phione will you be able to fix it by yourself or will you leave it at a shop for repairs? If you have the knowledge be my guest but the moment you'll give it away the risk of you losing everything goes up exponentially.

I know how to fix my computer but can't repair any phone damage so for me the choice is obvious.
You shouldn't store your recovery seed on your phone, copy it somewhere else, if my smartphone get damaged there is no way the repairer can get asses to my coins because

1. I use finger print scanner
2. My phone is always locked with facial recognition to access my crypto wallets

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June 14, 2020, 10:04:30 AM
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I personally don't like using laptops or desktops to store my coins or tokens because I know how fast PC can get compromised compare to using mobile wallet but are mobile wallet 100% proof to attacks? Nope, today i will like to share few ways that your smartphones can easily get compromised and lost your recovery seed in the process

1. Root Access

Yes I know many like tweaking their smartphones, installing new ROMs on your phone to change the looks and have better butter smooth OS but what you don't know is that there bad apps out there that can take control of your phone through root access that you have installed, root access gives access to some spyware apps that will stay hidden in your OS.

2. Unofficial Keyboard Apps

Are you the type that loves fancy keyboards? Well this is for you, there are few keyboard applications on playstore that keeps every single words you type through these keyboards and store into cloud for the keyboard app developer, that moment that you are busy typing in your recovery seed these keyboards are busing storing into cloud.

Be wise, till date some people don't know how their recover seed get compromised, all they see is someone sent out some Bitcoin from their wallets and they start crying of loss, be very careful with your smartphones and whatever apps you got running on them.
Very informative warning, I bet many don't know about these, especially newbies who are getting into crypto for the first time, thanks for sharing, I will like to add one more

If you are from a country where electricity blackout always happens from time to time be very careful where you go and charge your phone, make sure you lock your phone with a hard password

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June 14, 2020, 11:13:27 AM
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That is very important to realize that root phones are not to be trusted, you never know who has access to your phone, but also there are some apps that require to be launched in the background and these apps also can watch your activities.

It should not be rooted and it should remain company default, once you root your computer it, it is now vulnerable to attacks from third party untrusted, application and software, I guess you should understand what you are installing in your phone to avoid getting compromised.
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June 14, 2020, 11:33:55 AM
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Rooting your device gives you deep access to the system, and it also puts your phone at risk of being attacked by unauthorized applications. When you use your phone, it's best to leave it in its original state and never try to root it

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June 14, 2020, 12:07:20 PM
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That is very important to realize that root phones are not to be trusted, you never know who has access to your phone, but also there are some apps that require to be launched in the background and these apps also can watch your activities.
OP has a better point here, with root access those apps will work undetectable, not just in the background, they will be able to monitor everything you have in your phone, contact, videos, bank details etc, I hope people will listen to this very important advice
I'd widen the op's advice to - pay attention to how you root your device and what apps do you install on it
pay 2x attention before installing any crypto wallet app on it and especially fill in your seed
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June 14, 2020, 12:09:16 PM
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As long as you do not install strange applications, I believe you will always be safe with root. I have rooted my phone for many years and have used it smoothly, no one can attack my phone and steal my information.
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June 14, 2020, 01:02:38 PM
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As long as you do not install strange applications, I believe you will always be safe with root. I have rooted my phone for many years and have used it smoothly, no one can attack my phone and steal my information.
I will agree with you. As long as there are no changes on the default set up then you will be likely safe from such breach. I know the safety is always got compromised but as user have responsible routine on his movement them there is really nothing to worry about.

But OP so your saying that phone are much safe than laptop and desktop? Based on your explanation.

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June 14, 2020, 03:03:43 PM
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Rooting your device gives you deep access to the system, and it also puts your phone at risk of being attacked by unauthorized applications. When you use your phone, it's best to leave it in its original state and never try to root it
Well, rooting your smartphone to give its root access is completely normal in my view. As long as you don't give the root access to unknow or unofficial app that not coming from google play store, you will be fine.
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June 14, 2020, 03:09:30 PM
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Rooting your device gives you deep access to the system, and it also puts your phone at risk of being attacked by unauthorized applications. When you use your phone, it's best to leave it in its original state and never try to root it
Well, rooting your smartphone to give its root access is completely normal in my view. As long as you don't give the root access to unknow or unofficial app that not coming from google play store, you will be fine.

Yes, but you should be extra careful on what you are installing as an app as a malware can disguise as a trusted app or even be bundled with a popular app and get installed with administrative privilege taking your data and passwords. If you have rooted your phone, download from the official source as much as possible and never download the app which you are 100% sure are safe.

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June 14, 2020, 03:24:09 PM
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As long as you do not install strange applications, I believe you will always be safe with root. I have rooted my phone for many years and have used it smoothly, no one can attack my phone and steal my information.
Make sense, for as long as you know what applications to use then you are not prone to any possible attacks,
your knowledge always serve as tools to protect your assets.
Never use anything that you are not comfortable to be safe for your device.
If you're want to take your smartphone's secure to the next level, just buy a cheap smartphone and solely use it as a mobile wallet. Brand new phone + default stock rom and your mobile wallet could act as a personal sort of hardware wallet.

It's better to be safe than be sorry if you lose your money, if you have spare money then buying additional cheap phone
to serve as your storing wallet is also  a good option.
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June 14, 2020, 04:15:28 PM
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I like installing new ROMs on my Android phone and doing tweaking with CPU Speed but for crypto I use other separate phone, it's dangerous to keep coins on a rooted phone, if you are like me I suggest you buy other phone for storing coins
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June 14, 2020, 06:39:03 PM
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2. Unofficial Keyboard Apps

Are you the type that loves fancy keyboards? Well this is for you, there are few keyboard applications on playstore that keeps every single words you type through these keyboards and store into cloud for the keyboard app developer, that moment that you are busy typing in your recovery seed these keyboards are busing storing into cloud.


I installed a keyboard last 3 weeks on my new phone,  it keeps telling me it will be saving all my words that I would be typing and storing them, I quickly uninstalled the key boards. I don't even know the Android that is very strong in security.
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June 14, 2020, 07:08:45 PM
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There is always a risk in installing applications not only in smartphones but all devices.  So we should be careful in installing application in our devices especially when it is about rooting our phone.  We should only install verified applications from app store to avoid this malware and spyware.
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June 14, 2020, 07:23:20 PM
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I personally don't like using laptops or desktops to store my coins or tokens because I know how fast PC can get compromised compare to using mobile wallet but are mobile wallet 100% proof to attacks? Nope, today i will like to share few ways that your smartphones can easily get compromised and lost your recovery seed in the process

1. Root Access

Yes I know many like tweaking their smartphones, installing new ROMs on your phone to change the looks and have better butter smooth OS but what you don't know is that there bad apps out there that can take control of your phone through root access that you have installed, root access gives access to some spyware apps that will stay hidden in your OS.

2. Unofficial Keyboard Apps

Are you the type that loves fancy keyboards? Well this is for you, there are few keyboard applications on playstore that keeps every single words you type through these keyboards and store into cloud for the keyboard app developer, that moment that you are busy typing in your recovery seed these keyboards are busing storing into cloud.

Be wise, till date some people don't know how their recover seed get compromised, all they see is someone sent out some Bitcoin from their wallets and they start crying of loss, be very careful with your smartphones and whatever apps you got running on them.
Installing any apps which needs access of our mobile feature is risky and it is available on official marketplace as well so don't think you are safe if you are not installing any random keyboard apps or rooting your mobile.Smartphone means no privacy no matter it is android or Ios platfrom so keep in mind that never store sensitive information on mobile anymore.
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June 14, 2020, 07:26:43 PM
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with the root, smartphones can access a whole series of applications that would otherwise be impossible to run on normal phones, obviously they are not safe and I would never keep on them crypto wallets apps
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For me smartphones are one of the worst things you can use to store your crypto.

If you think otherwise, I have one question for you. If anything breaks in your phione will you be able to fix it by yourself or will you leave it at a shop for repairs? If you have the knowledge be my guest but the moment you'll give it away the risk of you losing everything goes up exponentially.

I know how to fix my computer but can't repair any phone damage so for me the choice is obvious.
You shouldn't store your recovery seed on your phone, copy it somewhere else, if my smartphone get damaged there is no way the repairer can get asses to my coins because

1. I use finger print scanner
2. My phone is always locked with facial recognition to access my crypto wallets


Facial recognition can be easily fooled. It measures your face and focuses on the size and location of your eyes. There were many instances when phones unlocked for different people because their faces had the same measurements.

Fingerprint can also become a disadvantage if you disable all other ways of unlocking your phone. A few times my phone was unable to recognize my fingerprints and I had to unlock it with a code.
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June 14, 2020, 08:11:53 PM
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When you are connected to internet you have to be very careful no matter what device we are using,IOS,Android or windows or any other operating system because even reputed softares in the pasts were found that they are tracking user's privacy information.Best solution is hardware wallet.
Now even a hardware wallet does not give any guarantees because there are some cases of hacking start to appear or some kind of inside replacement of address.
I wrote about tampered hardware wallet such as Ledger, and trezor that has been sold commercially in online shopping store like Amazon and Aliexpress. There have been cases where funds in hardware wallets are missing unexpectedly, it is true that there might be some altered stuffs in it to contain the fake address, malicious software, or they know the private keys.
I think in order to safely store cryptocurrency, you can use some kind of smartphone that will never connect to the Internet. it will be harder to hack it.
More likely a 2nd phone, it might be good but it is better if you have a secured hardware wallet bought from legit producer  so you can be sure of your cryptocurrencies.

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June 14, 2020, 08:15:50 PM
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There are so many apps that run on your smartphone even you know about it, that´s why every expert recommends avoiding all mobile wallet apps. More to that we do not even know about mobile security as much as we know about the computer´s security.

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June 14, 2020, 09:39:49 PM
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Phones are prone to Spyware. That's why about $50,000,000 of a cryptocurrency project was stolen through Hacking of the CTO's phone.
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