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June 19, 2020, 05:41:09 AM |
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I do think we do realize that the most important thing one should be concerned right now about is actually : Well being, Good health of his family and himself too.
When I go through the news I do realize that the government is prematurely removing the Quarantine , which might cost life of a lot of people .
• Bans on many Casinos was lifted • The Flights have started operating • Schools are going to start again
And much more !
I do think we should realize that even though we are moving forward to save the economy of the world , we are actually less concerned about COVID-19 now.
Is it worth it ?
Because even though we have strict regulations, even though people have been given strict rules to follow , they will still mess up !
I am aware of the counter argument : If this is not done people will still die ..Hungry , without being able to pay for the basic necessities
But I do think there should be some way , such as Quarantine is extended but still the Sectors Instead of asking people to come to the office continues to work from Home.
There should be Penalty on people for not wearing masks, might sound ridiculous for some but please understand that :
The second or Third wave of the virus can be prevented by 100% usage of masks .
With Risks increasing and possible economic collapse where are we headed to ?
That's true but i think government decide to reopen some business stablishment and transportation because of many people are arguing with the goverment and many hardheaded people that always disobey the rules of the government. They always said that they would not die of virus but starve. This current situation cause by the pandemic is really difficult both on the side of the people and government. The only one thing for me to prevent virus spreading if people collaborate with the government despite of difficulty . We need to suffer now for a short time rather than many can die.
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June 19, 2020, 06:06:36 AM |
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It is really difficult to overcome the current situation but the government is not able to do anything here because of how long people can sit idle like this That's why everything is restarted Adequate savings and opening up everything will lead to the expansion of business and the economy will improve very fast. But if people move freely the number of virus attacks will increase so we have to be careful as a development version of the economy.
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June 19, 2020, 06:31:24 AM |
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I do think we do realize that the most important thing one should be concerned right now about is actually : Well being, Good health of his family and himself too.
When I go through the news I do realize that the government is prematurely removing the Quarantine , which might cost life of a lot of people .
• Bans on many Casinos was lifted • The Flights have started operating • Schools are going to start again
And much more !
I do think we should realize that even though we are moving forward to save the economy of the world , we are actually less concerned about COVID-19 now.
Is it worth it ?
Because even though we have strict regulations, even though people have been given strict rules to follow , they will still mess up !
I am aware of the counter argument : If this is not done people will still die ..Hungry , without being able to pay for the basic necessities
But I do think there should be some way , such as Quarantine is extended but still the Sectors Instead of asking people to come to the office continues to work from Home.
There should be Penalty on people for not wearing masks, might sound ridiculous for some but please understand that :
The second or Third wave of the virus can be prevented by 100% usage of masks .
With Risks increasing and possible economic collapse where are we headed to ?
That's true but i think government decide to reopen some business stablishment and transportation because of many people are arguing with the goverment and many hardheaded people that always disobey the rules of the government. They always said that they would not die of virus but starve. This current situation cause by the pandemic is really difficult both on the side of the people and government. The only one thing for me to prevent virus spreading if people collaborate with the government despite of difficulty . We need to suffer now for a short time rather than many can die. Exactly. If every people in a country knows how to collaborate with their government, even they make an awful mistakes. No one would be suffering in this situation of the pandemic because there are some people who are only good on putting all the blame to their government, but in reality they also make big mistakes in this current situation.
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June 19, 2020, 05:02:06 PM |
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I do think we do realize that the most important thing one should be concerned right now about is actually : Well being, Good health of his family and himself too.
When I go through the news I do realize that the government is prematurely removing the Quarantine , which might cost life of a lot of people .
• Bans on many Casinos was lifted • The Flights have started operating • Schools are going to start again
And much more !
I do think we should realize that even though we are moving forward to save the economy of the world , we are actually less concerned about COVID-19 now.
Is it worth it ?
Because even though we have strict regulations, even though people have been given strict rules to follow , they will still mess up !
I am aware of the counter argument : If this is not done people will still die ..Hungry , without being able to pay for the basic necessities
But I do think there should be some way , such as Quarantine is extended but still the Sectors Instead of asking people to come to the office continues to work from Home.
There should be Penalty on people for not wearing masks, might sound ridiculous for some but please understand that :
The second or Third wave of the virus can be prevented by 100% usage of masks .
With Risks increasing and possible economic collapse where are we headed to ?
That's true but i think government decide to reopen some business stablishment and transportation because of many people are arguing with the goverment and many hardheaded people that always disobey the rules of the government. They always said that they would not die of virus but starve. This current situation cause by the pandemic is really difficult both on the side of the people and government. The only one thing for me to prevent virus spreading if people collaborate with the government despite of difficulty . We need to suffer now for a short time rather than many can die. Exactly. If every people in a country knows how to collaborate with their government, even they make an awful mistakes. No one would be suffering in this situation of the pandemic because there are some people who are only good on putting all the blame to their government, but in reality they also make big mistakes in this current situation. I do not know what kind of population mistakes you are talking about. There are very poor countries where people have worked for a day and received money. There are no savings in these countries. The state did not support them. And what should they do? Do not starve to death? And I think it’s not worth blaming them for the ease of actions. They can also be quarantined and watch TV shows.
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June 20, 2020, 08:05:29 AM |
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All pending activities, event and tournament has had a chance to operate again.Through the help of our good government and most especially our hero front liner's ,so far i saw the largest modification and the invironmental subject is probably turn to a cool and getting free but it doesn't mean that we will confirmed as confiding after they said that it is a real dealing of time for rebooting on economy that's because those specific decision is so unclear and I think it is basically allow to all unrestricted country of Free from pandemic.
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June 20, 2020, 02:07:57 PM |
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Yes, it is true that coronavirus has made the economic side of the economy unusable and people are facing a lot of problems and because of this schools and colleges have been closed, the wheel of the economy has become stagnant and we have been able to keep the wheel of the economy moving.
We need to recover from economic crisis that we are experiencing right now because it can affect how we live in the next few years. The good thing that the government here are giving chances to those small and big businesses to operate with the "new normal". There are new set of rules and regulations that they must follow in order to open and operate safely. Huge businesses like universities, corporations, and etc, they are the most affected sectors of the economy as they are not allowed to open because they have huge volumes of customers. Each and every governments should make an effective plan which they will use to make their economy recover and become stable. Some countries are now in a process of recovery and their economy is now moving well, so that they can retrieve all their budget that they've spent during lockdown. That's how they save their economy from this pandemic.
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June 20, 2020, 03:35:27 PM |
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I think what the government should do is to balance life and economy. Prioritize saving lives and saving the economy. It is their job to provide their people the safety they need going to work. In my country, when they ease the lockdowns, workers need better transpo with social distancing, more testing, and etc. As long as all the safety precautions are being followed, life and economy will be save. However, there are still some issues who aren't being prioritize. Some workers still have problems with transpo, so what can they do, they go for a long walk, or bike to work, then they need safer streets to go to work. Slow contact racing is a problem too, we still can't even flatten the curve.
Covid 19 problems should be the priority. We prioritize life during the lockdowns, now that they ease it for the economy, I hope life will not be the cost of it.
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June 20, 2020, 04:45:33 PM |
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I think what the government should do is to balance life and economy. Prioritize saving lives and saving the economy. It is their job to provide their people the safety they need going to work. In my country, when they ease the lockdowns, workers need better transpo with social distancing, more testing, and etc.
these are the things that the government is doing right now, it is just that the things are not easy to handle especially it needs a full cooperation from all of us. Some govenrment is trying to open up the economy, they are trying to not let the economy decline as we are facing this pandemic and finding for the solution simultaneously. As long as all the safety precautions are being followed, life and economy will be save. However, there are still some issues who aren't being prioritize. Some workers still have problems with transpo, so what can they do, they go for a long walk, or bike to work, then they need safer streets to go to work. Slow contact racing is a problem too, we still can't even flatten the curve.
Public vehicles are already rolling, what the problem is a huge number of people going to work. I think going to work with bicycle will be the new normal as safety precaution to the virus. Covid 19 problems should be the priority. We prioritize life during the lockdowns, now that they ease it for the economy, I hope life will not be the cost of it.
The death during the pandemic is inevitable, what we can do is to lessen the life expense.
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June 20, 2020, 05:38:03 PM |
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I believe that in this situation, when the world is faced with new challenges, including the coronavirus pandemic, to save the global economy, as well as the economy of each country individually, all governments must resort to non-standard solutions to solve the problems associated with a balanced the work of the state system and business. in my opinion, a very good step by the government will be an amnesty of capital and certain benefits for a particular business sector. the fact that today they are trying to solve the problem by reducing people and not paying salaries to these people, with these methods you can only achieve the opposite result and can not solve the problem.
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June 20, 2020, 11:47:34 PM |
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You are totally right. We need at this time to save lives and not expose them. We must follow health controls to prevent the virus from spreading. If we manage to stay healthy, we gain time not to invest them in health centers. We also need to be patient, scientists are working hard to find a cure, but we must wait. Our mission is to follow the norm and use the masks, we take care of ourselves and others.
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June 21, 2020, 03:55:45 AM |
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I do think we do realize that the most important thing one should be concerned right now about is actually : Well being, Good health of his family and himself too.
What is health if you have no foods in our table?what is health concern if you are slowly dying because of starvation? we are too different in ways of living,yeah we are online person so we can make money inside internet but what about those people that needs physical just to do a living?lets be realistic,this Virus is stopping our future now,we must not afraid of this instead let us just do the precautionary measures to keep safer but life must go on,even wi or without this virus. When I go through the news I do realize that the government is prematurely removing the Quarantine , which might cost life of a lot of people .
• Bans on many Casinos was lifted • The Flights have started operating • Schools are going to start again
And much more !
As what i've said above,Life must go on and let the government claim their profit because they have invested too much in this Pandemic and all of the resources has been spent so this time of payback,and this Corona must be face seriously but without Pausing our living.
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June 21, 2020, 02:39:49 PM |
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Look, we literally need to understand that this has now become something we need to live with, at least till a few more years or until a working vaccine takes place in the market. And for that, even if these bans have been lifted, there are still a lot more restrictions to be followed where temperature checks, wearing masks, sanitizing hands by washing them, washing your face after coming back from some place, etc. and many more measures are being taken by governments in order to save their citizens from getting infected.
This pandemic really brought us huge changes on how we act or communicate with other people. There are a lot of factors that are affected, especially the economy of our country. The government implemented a new set of rules and regulations that must be followed in order to have a more safer surroundings. There are new laws that will make us become more comfortable on how we engage with our environment. Hoping that this what we called "new normal" should help us recover from economic crisis as the government allow some businesses to open once again to have profits and recover from all the damage that this pandemic brought to us.
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June 21, 2020, 05:33:02 PM |
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The lockdown should be over to make economic sectors recover. There is no way to improve the economy by only staying at home. I cannot imagine if the lockdown lasts till a year, how can we survive to live. Even if it is still not the right time to go out, but I think as long as we follow the guide to prevent Covid-19, then it is no problem going out. Not all people can work from home, some only can work outside. Not all people have the same skills to work online and even some never know about online jobs. The situation is quite complicated but the only way to survive is by changing our habit, NOT staying at home forever.
Most countries have already lifted their quarantine days and allowed their citizens already to go back to their respective jobs. But even if the government allowed this to happen, we should still follow strictly those restrictions that will keep us safe from not spreading corona virus. Wearing face mask and bringing hand sanitizers are a must but we should not still be comfotable with this since the best medicine which is the vaccine is still not out in the market. I think this is the right thing to do but I do not know if people will actually listen, we need to get back to our normal activities but this does not mean doing so in a way that put our lives at risk, we need to take all the necessary precautions and yet that is not what I see in my country, many people are not wearing face masks anymore and this could be very problematic as most likely this means the second wave of the pandemic it is going to be even worse than the first wave.
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June 22, 2020, 12:48:09 PM |
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There is no clear picture against the cruelty of current pandemic because the death rate of covid19 is falling below level of pre-assumed 2% and we are seeing a lot of people are recovering from it in less than 14 days as well. So, governments may think about relaxing the restrictions of lockdown so that they could start building their economy back. I mean I'm not seeing any of risk on planning about saving economic of a country. This could be the reason why governments are reopening all their business.
Governments cannot keep people within their home for longer than currently they are into. People must need some money to live which is possible for more than 50% people by going job. Only very few people must be having saving to lead their life and some other people are having the chances to work from home but most other people must need to go out to earn their life.
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June 22, 2020, 02:37:09 PM |
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There is no clear picture against the cruelty of current pandemic because the death rate of covid19 is falling below level of pre-assumed 2% and we are seeing a lot of people are recovering from it in less than 14 days as well. So, governments may think about relaxing the restrictions of lockdown so that they could start building their economy back. I mean I'm not seeing any of risk on planning about saving economic of a country. This could be the reason why governments are reopening all their business.
Governments cannot keep people within their home for longer than currently they are into. People must need some money to live which is possible for more than 50% people by going job. Only very few people must be having saving to lead their life and some other people are having the chances to work from home but most other people must need to go out to earn their life.
We have to learn how to deal with problems. Virus is the problem, but we can't abandon everything because there is a virus, we have to eat too! We need to pay bills to not stay on the street. I am aware of the risk, but I am not for lock down, in long run it will hurt more than virus! Even for older and weak someone has to work and provide food. People die every day, safety first, for older and weak this applies even more, but locking down all of us is just crazy in my opinion, but that happened and some people feel the consequences already.
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June 22, 2020, 03:21:57 PM |
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The cost of restarting the economy is people's lives. We cannot stop the Infections if we want the economy to work. It is the one way or the other... And it seems that the governments decide to risk people's lives.
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June 22, 2020, 07:14:27 PM |
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The reason why less and less people are dying is because we figured out some sort of treatment. Not that it is fully treatable right now and we just give one medicine and puff, it is gone type of deal. However we know how to approach it a lot better. Doctors didn't know what to do with the patients for a long time, there was tests made on what makes the infected better but there was no guaranteed answer.
Nowadays we know whats good for them and what to do and how to heal them, still not a permanent solution but at least it could save more people. Hence, right now death rate is dropping, and it will continue to drop even more if there is less infected because when hospitals have less infected that means they have to give their attention better to less people instead of less attention to more people.
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June 22, 2020, 11:26:12 PM |
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OP what do you think, did you write anything meaningful? Wear that mask on your face even when you fall asleep, I don't care but personally I can't breath in those masks and I am responsible on myself and my behaviors, will never ask to get treatment if I get covid but I'm going on pretty well.
And anyone who really says that why the fuck to care about economy when our health is danger, I want to remind those people that: At first you can get immune to any virus but not to hunger and then - Your health/life/existance is fuckin linked to economics and without it you can't fuckin survive. See economic situation in Africa, see how children and adults live and then come here argue with me that economics has nothing to do with our health and life.
What do you think, can you destroy virus by lockdown? Even current lockdowns were a waste of time, Sweden and Belarus are going well without lockdowns and regulations and there are less victims of virus in these countries. Humanity had a lot of viruses and diseases, including Black Death but we survived. There will be nothing that will abandon mankind.
Don't you think about people who live alone at home? Don't you think about people who have depression? Don't you think about people who have other mental illness? Don't you think about people who have anemia and need blood transfusion? Don't you think about people who need other medical services to live?
Just try to stay at one room/home alone without food (no work = no economics = no food) for 1 month and then came here and explain how good that journey was and how mentally satisfied you feel after that.
AGAIN, I don't care, stay at home, wear mask and do whatever you want to keep yourself safe! I need to work!!! And I am responsible on my own health!!! I amn't going to bury alive because of you!
And the most curious thing here is that some people who have wealth suggest poor people: stay at home to lessen the spread of virus. But these people don't care whether poor people die because of hunger or not, because you can't get affected by hunger when you have money.
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June 23, 2020, 01:59:02 PM |
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Money, power and the economy is more important than the lives of many, this is the sad reality of our lives.
I disagree. Because this is not the case of most developed countries. Only on some countries, due to improper governments and its laws, they are not caring about each and every individual's life. A true republic will definitely care about their citizen the most than anything else. The risk of getting infected is much higher when you go outside and hangout with many people, well it is still your choice especially if the Democracy is too much and abused by one individual.
I do see many government has already started allowing their people to get back to working place so that they could save their economy. Now the responsibility of protecting against pandemic just shifted to individuals that it is supposed to be government's. The rise of every economy on its costly way, this is the new normal so you have to be healthy to survive as well.
Rising your economy must be the secondary option for most governments right now because they are right now working on saving it from not deeply falling down. Yes, people must need to adopt the "new normal" to live in social life so that they could save their lives as well as their nation's economy.
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June 26, 2020, 03:27:03 PM |
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The reason why less and less people are dying is because we figured out some sort of treatment. Not that it is fully treatable right now and we just give one medicine and puff, it is gone type of deal. However we know how to approach it a lot better. Doctors didn't know what to do with the patients for a long time, there was tests made on what makes the infected better but there was no guaranteed answer.
Nowadays we know whats good for them and what to do and how to heal them, still not a permanent solution but at least it could save more people. Hence, right now death rate is dropping, and it will continue to drop even more if there is less infected because when hospitals have less infected that means they have to give their attention better to less people instead of less attention to more people.
When this virus appeared it took everyone by surprise and it began to spread very rapidly so I think the lockdowns ordered by the governments were justified, this slowed down the virus and it give us time to try to figure out a treatment, while the vaccine will not be available until the next year it seems there are many ways to treat the symptoms and help to raise the survival rate of those that are severely ill, this is saving lives and it is slowly dropping the mortality rate of the virus and this is why we can open the economies again, but we still need to be careful because if we are not the second wave could be so big that hospitals will not be able to deal with it and more people will begin to die for the lack of specialized healthcare.
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