Saving economy at the cost of what?

[ololajulo]

Countries and their leadership are more conscious of the benefits some countries are enjoying from the lockdown while taking their market and getting new ground. It is believed that the advent of the pandemic was with the mind of an economic war and the trend had not proved otherwise. However, new discovery have been helping to make better decision on treatment and prevention. Some of this measure will reduce the government spending on equipment such as ventilator that didnt give the desired result. Especially in USA more cases are seen in area of lockdown and familiar drug are advised to control the disease while everyone improve their immunity.

[harizen]

Countries need to take the risk for them to move forward. The world can't afford to just let remain idle while waiting for the vaccine to be made which is currently still on testing and the projected timeline might take a year or two. The fall of the economy is way more critical in the long-run.

I also didn't consider a continued lockdown as a solution to slow down the virus spread. Even at home and following the strict measures, other people got surprised how they became infected with the virus. The good thing is, some able to survive it without medications as they just continue their healthy lifestyle while being in quarantine. It does mean that the virus is curable without the actual medicine for it. Because of that, we can go back to business slowly as long as we are following the safety protocol which is now part of the new normal living.

The world is not clueless now on what the virus capable of. We do now have information about how to deal with the virus, at least. That's the subject of the lockdown. It's time now to take the risks, embrace the new normal, follow safety measures, and come back slowly into the business.

[SquallLeonhart]

The thing people are forgetting about is the fact that people can't just stay at home forever, there is no way humanity could survive not only economically but emotionally as well by staying at home for years, and we do not know when the vaccine will be ready. So, the best case we have right now is making people stay at home at a length, then curing the sick people we have, when everything looks better we will let people go outside again, they will get sick again and we will lockdown once again and cure the sicks we have.

That way instead of just putting everyone at home until vaccine, you are making sure that we are going outside at a rate where the sick people number doesn't go beyond the hospital capacity numbers. Its a calculated risk that we need to accept in order to continue life.

[stompix]

I am aware of the counter argument : If this is not done people will still die ..Hungry , without being able to pay for the basic necessities

But I do think there should be some way , such as Quarantine is extended but still the Sectors Instead of asking people to come to the office continues to work from Home.

in Europe alone the auto industry alone provides 5 million jobs, those people will not be able to work from home for too long. Yeah, a part might work from home in design, accounting, promotion, but if you don't produce the actual cars there is no need for that anymore. And that's one part of the industry, what are you going to with the petrochemical branch, without that there are no plastic derivates (meaning no bags, no packages, no masks!!) it means no fertilizer, it means no food!

And what about the people that must go to their daily job!
You still need electricity, you need water, you need medics and firemen, and ...employees at chain stores and delivery men.
Oh, those can be sacrificed, right? You might be able to stay at home but only with other people leaving their homes for work.

No, a continuous quarantine the sam ewe had in March-April in the EU would be impossible for the entire year.
Besides...look at Sweden!
It had far more relaxed measures and its mortality rate is still below the UK, Spain or Belgium.
  

[Rengga Jati]

The lockdown should be over to make economic sectors recover. There is no way to improve the economy by only staying at home. I cannot imagine if the lockdown lasts till a year, how can we survive to live. Even if it is still not the right time to go out, but I think as long as we follow the guide to prevent Covid-19, then it is no problem going out. Not all people can work from home, some only can work outside. Not all people have the same skills to work online and even some never know about online jobs. The situation is quite complicated but the only way to survive is by changing our habit, NOT staying at home forever.

[Kasabus]

The lockdown should be over to make economic sectors recover. There is no way to improve the economy by only staying at home. I cannot imagine if the lockdown lasts till a year, how can we survive to live. Even if it is still not the right time to go out, but I think as long as we follow the guide to prevent Covid-19, then it is no problem going out. Not all people can work from home, some only can work outside. Not all people have the same skills to work online and even some never know about online jobs. The situation is quite complicated but the only way to survive is by changing our habit, NOT staying at home forever.

Most countries have already lifted their quarantine days and allowed their citizens already to go back to their respective jobs. But even if the government allowed this to happen, we should still follow strictly those restrictions that will keep us safe from not spreading corona virus. Wearing face mask and bringing hand sanitizers are a must but we should not still be comfotable with this since the best medicine which is the vaccine is still not out in the market.

[ethereumhunter]

The lockdown should be over to make economic sectors recover. There is no way to improve the economy by only staying at home. I cannot imagine if the lockdown lasts till a year, how can we survive to live. Even if it is still not the right time to go out, but I think as long as we follow the guide to prevent Covid-19, then it is no problem going out. Not all people can work from home, some only can work outside. Not all people have the same skills to work online and even some never know about online jobs. The situation is quite complicated but the only way to survive is by changing our habit, NOT staying at home forever.

I am sure people will find a way to survive because we can use the internet to be more creative. Maybe that will work and help people to solve their problem in the finance side, but yes, that will be hard to apply for all people since not all people can use the internet. I think by we staying at home, and try to search for what we can do to survive, it is changing our habit, and we are forced to do something new that is out from our expectation. We will try many things to have our daily needs, and I am sure that we can pass this hard moment.

[mindrust]

Is it worth it ?

The virus will never go away unless somebody comes up with a very effective medicine. Masks won't prevent the virus from spreading neither.

It is impossible to quarantine the major cities forever and It is not wise to stop the economy neither because people die from hunger.

Long story short, there isn't a solution to this problem, yet.

Since we try to do them both, quarantine and work at the same time, we will suffer from both. Die from the virus and the hunger at the same time.

[FanEagle]

Saving the economy of a nation at the cost of our life. Yes, in many developing to underdeveloped countries people started starving due to lockdown hence there could be no other solutions for those governments except lifting the lockdown restrictions along with the instructions of mandatory social distancing and masks wearing. Fortunately the rate of death due to covid19 is not significant compared to most other new diseases of last few decades which could be the another reason governments started risking our lives for saving economy .

It seems we might need to lead our usual life among this virus and patients of covid by wearing masks and by using sanitizers on hands and our touchable everyday things. Tier1 countries may support people by feeding them to keep them staying within home but that is not possible for most other countries hence we cannot expect to continue lockdown.

[chrisculanag]

Is it worth it ?

The virus will never go away unless somebody comes up with a very effective medicine. Masks won't prevent the virus from spreading neither.

It is impossible to quarantine the major cities forever and It is not wise to stop the economy neither because people die from hunger.

Long story short, there isn't a solution to this problem, yet.

Since we try to do them both, quarantine and work at the same time, we will suffer from both. Die from the virus and the hunger at the same time.

Yes thats right vaccine is only cure to the virus but still not existed and we dont know when its make. Yes quarantine is really not solution to stop the spreading virus and if we want to work too we need mask as a little protection to us . But its not safe and the one that i know is to find a some work online , so that i make some  cash even i stay home and also my family are safe in pandemic.

[mnporter2001]

You have a very good and reasonable advice. I know that everyone has a personal life and has a lot of work to solve, but if we are too personal, it will affect the community greatly. As he mentioned above, we should have a habit of wearing a mask, washing hands before touching the face and especially avoiding the road when there is no need. Those are the actions that we need to take if we want corona virus to be controlled early. sacrifice your time, you will save the economy of the world in the future. Hope everyone here is well aware of that.

[PavelMed]

Saving the economy of a nation at the cost of our life. Yes, in many developing to underdeveloped countries people started starving due to lockdown hence there could be no other solutions for those governments except lifting the lockdown restrictions along with the instructions of mandatory social distancing and masks wearing. Fortunately the rate of death due to covid19 is not significant compared to most other new diseases of last few decades which could be the another reason governments started risking our lives for saving economy .

It seems we might need to lead our usual life among this virus and patients of covid by wearing masks and by using sanitizers on hands and our touchable everyday things. Tier1 countries may support people by feeding them to keep them staying within home but that is not possible for most other countries hence we cannot expect to continue lockdown.

I agree with you, many poor countries cannot support their population. And people work to provide for themselves and their loved ones. But maybe the virus is not so dangerous, because it is more real to die from hunger than from a virus that you might not get infected.

[Lorence.xD]

You have a very good and reasonable advice. I know that everyone has a personal life and has a lot of work to solve, but if we are too personal, it will affect the community greatly. As he mentioned above, we should have a habit of wearing a mask, washing hands before touching the face and especially avoiding the road when there is no need. Those are the actions that we need to take if we want corona virus to be controlled early. sacrifice your time, you will save the economy of the world in the future. Hope everyone here is well aware of that.

We are not ready for this pandemic, the OP has a point when it comes to the welfare and survival of the citizens, but the problem is that we do not know how to cope our system with the revival of economy while simultaneously ensuring the well being of the masses, I agree that we should prioritize the lives of our people but how can we make sure that they will survive in the long run if the government do not open the economy, more lives will suffer in the long run if the continouos closure of economy due to the pandemic, the collapse of economy will ensue hunger if not threated early, remember when West Berlin was dying of starvation because they lost the war and they are held by USSR, it is a different circumstance but the pattern is the same, be it war or pandemic, economy will collapse if there is no circulation.

[Russlenat]

We can't afford to just stay and hope and wait for the support of the government, the vaccine as per news will be available next year, so that means we need to wait for 6 months or more and staying at home would help to minimize the virus spread but it has bigger negative effect on the economy.

The law has to be strictly implemented as we have protocol in place already, that's what the government has to do, but then, it will not be fully successful if we, people are not responsible and supportive of the measures implemented by the government.

We have no choice at this moment, though health is our first priority but if our economy will struggle, slowly we will all die and that's the sad reality.

[abhiseshakana]

I do think we should realize that even though we are moving forward to save the economy of the world , we are actually less concerned about COVID-19 now.

Is it worth it ?

Because even though we have strict regulations, even though people have been given strict rules to follow , they will still mess up !

I am aware of the counter argument : If this is not done people will still die ..Hungry , without being able to pay for the basic necessities

But I do think there should be some way , such as Quarantine is extended but still the Sectors Instead of asking people to come to the office continues to work from Home.

There should be Penalty on people for not wearing masks, might sound ridiculous for some but please understand that :

The second or Third wave of the virus can be prevented by 100% usage of masks .

With Risks increasing and possible economic collapse where are we headed to ?

Save the economy at the expense of additional budged health and additional funeral expenses. Because in reality with the presence or absence of quarantine, the number of positive covid-19 patients continues to increase, and in the end, for the community, the number of sufferers and the death rate is only a number.

The end of quarantine is also an implied language that "the ability of the government to sustain the deficit budged is enough to end here". Education during quarantine is enough to make people wise to behave and respond to corona. Starting from the origin to the effects ranging from mild to deadly. The deadly surge that occurred in Italy with health facilities that are not supportive and the practice of prioritizing patients who might be able to be saved who are treated, is considered to have a horror effect for the people.

The socialization of standardization of behavior during the pandemic has been given. Start using masks, diligently wash hands, and use hand sanitizers, not crowding, and keep a distance. So now people from the level of individuals, institutions, entertainment and recreation facilities, companies, schools to places of worship are considered to have been intelligent and well educated about covid-19. For healthy choices, sickness, or ending in a grave, the choice is left to the people. This is also a pandemic management strategy using semi herd immunity (ignoring the availability of adequate health services). So which one is your choice?

[BIT-BENDER]

The governments have no choice op. Extending lockdowns in many countries will only lead to more chaos which is why they are lifting them carefully.

Certain countries like New Zealand have found the optimal way to control the spread of the virus at present which is impressive and other governments can learn from them. World governments need to optimally control the spread of the virus and kickstart their economy.

This situation will probably stay this way until the middle of next year after which the vaccine would probably solve the problem worldwide.

When the global lock down broke out I was not convinced that it would be the solution. In the USA some weeks before the lockdown saw high level of shopping activities -all in preparation for the stay at home- but even at the lockdown cases was rising.
Areas such as
+ Business -small and large scale
+ Education
+  Tourism
+ Individual recreational schedule. -outing, dates, hangout etc-

And other areas will feel the heat, it was just only a matter of time before the lockdown would be easy -and not the finding out of the vaccine- total lockdown was not the solution as we could see now, other measures aimed at reducing the spread but not crippling individual and the nation economy

[MCobian]

I believe the government took the decision to remove the quarantine is not easy, because there are risks that must be risked.
And I believe the government's decision is the best for now, because it's been more than 3 months there is no certainty about vaccines.
It is impossible to extend quarantine time, while the peoples has run out of money for living expenses. And not all work can be done
at home. So the choice of saving the economy is the best decision in my opinion.

[Naida_BR]

They reasoned we shouldn't be afraid of covid forever and that we should reopen the business for we all die anyway were just influenced by the big businessmen and politicians being influenced by these businessmen. These big businesses need to reopen their business because they only care for their money.

Life can go on without reopening yet because there are lives to save. Whats a government and business has to work on if there are no people left?
To live is not easy when infected already and a person with a family can contaminate everyone in a family and the next family who live nearby.

The percentage of people who die from coronavirus is so little.
It is not that businessman care about their money, but just consider how many people cannot live because they are not have money when they stop working and being on unemployment due to coronavirus. Rich will live but poor will not.

[lillobo]

Saving enables the production of capital goods, saving is obviously at the heart of the economic growth that raises people's living standards. Another important role of money is to serve as a medium of saving. Good for the economy because it increases productivity. No matter the savings rate, more savings will translate into more capital.

[BitcoinTurk]

Unfortunately, the economic crisis with pandemic has had a very bad impact on both businesses and many states. For this reason, many countries have now decided to relax the measures and we see that many strict rules are not valid. I think a second wave will emerge as a result of these decisions and no measures will be taken this time. Yes, the businesses have started to be opened as mandatory because no contribution has been made by the governments, but this is not a very good thing. If there is a comment that needs to be taken from these decisions and events, it is actually that the economies of the country and money are more valuable than human life. I wish all the countries of the world were caught prepared for this situation and we would not witness the days like this.