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June 15, 2020, 05:56:52 PM
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The Only 1 that started move the things is the valued bitcointalk member Trade  Runner aka The Terminator! Instead of complaining he took action and went outside this forum to voice out for the good cause.

Trade Runner and A consultant for BTCU who is listed on BTCU's website who wished to remain anonymous also saved the day.

Thanks to these two gentlemen my issue has been resolved.

Trade Runner and Anonymous thank you very much for all your help! you're the best.
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June 15, 2020, 08:31:09 PM
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First, I'm very sorry for your loss. Coinsbit is well known here as fraudsters, unfortunately, there are always new accusations of fraud.
If you are created a flag, you need to post a link in your OP post, If you want the support of course.

Also, you need to give us proof that is your transaction. maybe you can sign a message on address from which you sent BTC

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Hash of payment 1 BTC to COINSBIT.IO :  27e13add06a80483e14c952417aba8ae37edf7bbe2514f2553795f95436cae6a

I mean, even if everyone knows that they are scammers, you need to convince us that it really happened to you.

In the end, in August 2019, you have entered into a deal with very suspicious exchange which is already known by a large number of complaints of fraud and theft. How you decided to send them 1BTC, have you not researched a little? I think here on the forum you can find few scam accusations topics against Coinsbit.

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June 15, 2020, 09:38:12 PM
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Thank you for highlighting your situation here. I have read your posts in the coinsbit ANN thread and can clearly see you have been selective scammed by them. I feel very sad for you because you lost your funds at the hands of the coinsbit scammers.

Unfortunately it seems like your funds will not be returned because the coinsbit/p2pb2b/exrates/whitebit exchanges are run by the same group of scammers that have a track record of selective scamming.

I hope after members read your story they decide to stay from the scam exchange websites mentioned above.

Please post any updates you have of correspondence with them so we can be kept in the loop.


With this post I would like to make everyone aware of my experience with COINSBIT.IO

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June 16, 2020, 04:56:20 AM
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I also have supported your flag. Here is a direct link to the flag:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2024

Coinsbit obviously has no shame as they continue to pay for their thread spammers to continue doing such an awful job representing their exchange. They must be paying a fairly low amount to not notice that Cellerex and his spambot farm are actively damaging the exchange's reputation, in addition to what Coinsbit is already doing themselves.

I notice they keep mentioning me over and over, saying that I am you and everybody else who criticizes them (I get that a lot), but I can't respond over there or I will bump their thread to the first page of the Altcoin ANN section.

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June 16, 2020, 05:12:06 AM
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Actually, My hands are really itchy to make flag to them but I don't have sufficient supporting evidence on my claim. Not only Coinsbit but also to P2PB2B and other shit exchange that obviously faking there volume just to climb up there ranking. I usually mention them as shit exchange in some my post before and I feel sorry about the OP for being a victim of there false promise. The only they do is to pay there own advertisement and never endorse any IEO besides by advertising it on there website with fake traffic and paid traders.

I already support the and will be happy to support other flag that related on this matter. Kudos to Jollygood for the perseverance on busting scam exchange.

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June 16, 2020, 05:54:13 AM
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Are there any chances to ban them here? At least their fake accounts?

Also they don't use COINSBIT.EXCHANGE account anymore, Cellerex is their main account now
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June 16, 2020, 12:08:58 PM
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Are there any chances to ban them here? At least their fake accounts?

Also they don't use COINSBIT.EXCHANGE account anymore, Cellerex is their main account now

The scam is not moderated on the forum. He can't be banned because of scam accusations here. But they can be tagged and alerting new potential victims.
Is there any list of all accounts connected to p2pb2b and Coinsbit?
I don’t follow them regularly and I don't know for all of these accounts. Certainly, all of them should be tagged.

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June 16, 2020, 12:13:22 PM
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Thank you for direct flag link, I have supported it too.

What surprises me is the level of trash that the sole coinsbit representative is posting using various alt-accounts including Cellerex, Pavel1988Pop, Keadyar and Zahmere.


I also have supported your flag. Here is a direct link to the flag:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2024

Coinsbit obviously has no shame as they continue to pay for their thread spammers to continue doing such an awful job representing their exchange. They must be paying a fairly low amount to not notice that Cellerex and his spambot farm are actively damaging the exchange's reputation, in addition to what Coinsbit is already doing themselves.

I notice they keep mentioning me over and over, saying that I am you and everybody else who criticizes them (I get that a lot), but I can't respond over there or I will bump their thread to the first page of the Altcoin ANN section.

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August 08, 2020, 10:51:34 AM
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Bitcoin talk should ban the coinsbit ann treath, enough evidence that it is ruled by puppet accounts and the original Coinsbit user is not responding at all, this topic should be locked!
Scams are not moderated on bitcointalk, so despite Coinsbit being an obvious scam, nothing can be done in that regard (unless they break some of the forum rules that are punishable by thread deletion).
Regarding those shilling accounts, no one is buying that so what they are doing is useless and doesn't help them one bit. Coinsbit OP has been tagged and flagged, so newbies are aware what's going on there.

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September 07, 2020, 06:02:43 AM
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I saw that ANN thread, I will start tagging all the sock-puppet accounts they are using to pump that scam thread, thank you.


What I found is this posting on Telegram from an admin of the Coinsbit Telegram group. There a low quality video is linked in 240 p. I was falling several times asleep when Nataly Simson finally started to talk about “BTCU” at 16 min 28 sec. Indeed she seems to be part of the game (well, I stopped the video a few seconds later)
Now trolling around with new sock puppet and a fake campaign about a fake Bitcoin fork...

Im surprised how you catched them, Coinsbit creating own projects to scam more people

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262676.new

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September 10, 2020, 09:39:29 AM
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Banning them will not happen because the forum admin does not check for scams.

They use various sock-puppet accounts to pump their message and their propaganda, they alternate deliberately between fake accounts such as Cellerex, adidasler444, Dennicex, Pavel1988Pop and now newbie Orlova too.

 
Are there any chances to ban them here? At least their fake accounts?

Also they don't use COINSBIT.EXCHANGE account anymore, Cellerex is their main account now

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September 10, 2020, 09:46:29 AM
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Banning them will not happen because the forum admin does not check for scams.


Can you help us flagging their scam?


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September 10, 2020, 02:27:49 PM
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I have supported the flag and also made a request for it to be supported here too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153445.msg55169469#msg55169469

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September 16, 2020, 12:21:26 PM
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All participants are recorded.


Buytex is the next.


Happy to know that scammers are flagged
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September 16, 2020, 04:09:43 PM
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Clearly one way or another your CEO was connected with the scam coinsbit exchange and that is a big red flag for anybody to deal with your BTCU Ultimate scam.

You was warned several times to inform your boss Co Founder of Coinsbit part of the Coinsbit Scam Group about that you have received complaints from Victims, Instead you choose to attack the community and this is what you get, the outcome you get is from the seeds you plant, so dont play the victim as you had the freedom to choose the correct path!

To which you were given a clear and reasonable answer that our CEO is not the Co Founder of the Coinsbit exchange. He sold his stake in the exchange a long time ago.

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Wow, that was unexpected and I'm glad Trade Runner could help resolve the issue on behalf of the OP. I don't understand exactly how it happened but it was really interesting to see Coinsbit step up and do the right thing, even if it took 3+ months. iGO_Tech has deleted all of their posts except for the one that started this thread, which seems like it must have been a bit time consuming, LOL.

In any case, good job @Trade Runner -- thanks for being a good intermediary.

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Unfortunately I've spent already all available merits, so thank you on this way! It was an honor to assist you and hopefully the exchange has learned something!
I'll be back! Grin Grin Grin

Thank you so much Trade Runner, I should merit you instead, Cheesy unfortunately i also not have any left Smiley Once again thank you.
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September 22, 2020, 07:55:45 AM
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Meanwhile iGO_Tech's case got resolved thanks to the outside consultant whose name appeared on the BTCU website and at the BTCU announcement on Bitcointalk as well. His appearance was misinterpreted as he would somehow be related to Coinsbit and their Bitcointalk account, but this is definitely not the case. Moreover, the consultant helped iGO_Tech to resolve his issue with Coinsbit and they paid him back his original fee of 1 BTC for getting his token listed, worth around 10,500 USD at the moment. Bitbottrader's case will be resolved as well and his list of other member's open issues will be submitted as well for getting a constructive solution. Therefore I don't see any need to keep any scam alert. I've not filed any complaints in front of the authorities or the domain registrars as I was waiting to get the accusations resolved. My technological considerations remain untouched from this and thus I'll keep them as notification together with one or another comment as an expression of freedom of speech. The flags for the thread creator BTCU_Ultimate will remain due to unacceptable attacks and serious insults against the community!
Does that mean if Bitbottrader receives his funds back will he will also delete all his posts and evidence against coinsbit and remove all the negative trust as well as his support for the flags in the same way as iGO_Tech did?




Wow, that was unexpected and I'm glad Trade Runner could help resolve the issue on behalf of the OP. I don't understand exactly how it happened but it was really interesting to see Coinsbit step up and do the right thing, even if it took 3+ months. iGO_Tech has deleted all of their posts except for the one that started this thread, which seems like it must have been a bit time consuming, LOL.

In any case, good job @Trade Runner -- thanks for being a good intermediary.
Without doubt am glad that iGO_Tech got their funds back but it is not appropriate for him to delete all the negative feedback/trust he left for all of the coinsbit sock-puppet accounts and it is not appropriate for him to delete all his posts since he was a victim of the coinsbit scam.

I am not happy and am not impressed with the manner in which iGO_Tech has deleted almost all activity in this forum which he posted because he was a victim of coinsbit yet has decided nobody else should read what he posted.. in other words the message being sent is that in his opinion any warnings from iGO_Tech about coinsbit scammers to future victims are not important therefore if others get scammed it is alright because iGO_Tech  got his funds back. That is a very dangerous message to send to users of the forum.

I am not privy to the negotiations that resulted in iGO_Tech getting his funds back but on the surface it seems Trade Runner asked a team member of BTCU to intervene as his name was being tarnished being associated with known scammers and that person (consultant) used his leverage to force BTCU/coinsbit scammers to return the funds and it seems the negotiation may have included iGO_Tech removing his posts otherwise what was the problem with receiving his funds and keeping the posts in place?

Just to reiterate, I am glad iGO_Tech got his funds back BUT...

... I want to express I am profoundly disappointed that he has virtually whitewashed the whole episode by deleting all the evidence/posts he made in the forum was well as supporting flags and negative trust for coinsbit associated accounts which could have acted as a warning to other potential victims. This action is worthy of being pointed out as almost despicable because in the past other scammers have been pressured in to returning funds back to victims but after receiving the funds the victims never deleted any negative feedback, posts or support for flags.

Just look at the OP in this thread, the title has been changed and the accusation from the OP has been removed. That in itself is unacceptable conduct especially after the OP himself came to this forum seeking assistance yet after he got his funds returned he is effectively now saying he was never a victim and does not want others to know of his story because he does not mind if others get scammed by coinsbit - that IS what it seems like by his behaviour.

Had I known iGO_Tech would delete all evidence of their case against coinsbit in the event of getting their funds returned, I would not have supported him because deleting all traces and evidence of a scam after getting funds back is tantamount to betraying all other potential victims and forum members that might fall victim to the same scam.

At least iGO_Tech cannot remove the flag he created but obviously has removed his own support: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2681193

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September 22, 2020, 08:04:11 AM
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Fortunately, not everything was removed and traces of activity remained:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.msg55138483#msg55138483


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September 22, 2020, 08:11:27 AM
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That you for the post, it is imperative that posts are not removed just because a victim ends up receiving his funds from those that stole it.

Just look what is happening in the coinsbit thread now thanks to iGO_Tech deleting all his posts and withdrawing his allegations, just look at what the sock-puppets are doing because the puppeteer controlling them is feel empowered now that they have one less person to fight against they have started flooding their thread again:








Fortunately, not everything was removed and traces of activity remained:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.msg55138483#msg55138483


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