Proof BLM is racist or irrational

[BADecker]

You don't even have to this far to understand that BLM as an organization isn't as well intention as people wants them to believe. The group is not transparent at all with their donations and after George Floyd's death, they're probably flooding with donations. BLM was formed after the Michael Brown shooting which was ruled justified and was further investigated by the Obama Department of Justice who also found the shooting to be justified. BLM protested this shooting and formed their organization on this incident claiming injustice despite all evidence pointing to the contrary.

People are putting BLM on a pedestal because they're afraid that not supporting "Black Lives Matter" the organization is synonymous with not supporting the life of a black person, or thinking that black people's lives don't matter. 

One of the directors for BLM did an AMA and when asked about financial transparency, they had absolutely nothing to offer: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/gyzs79/i_am_kailee_scales_managing_director_for_black/ftdpo9w/?context=3

seems like america is realizing it has fascist authoritarian traits

If the people realized the strength they had in court with the 12-man jury, they would do it peacefully. But government doesn't want them to know. Government would lose any semblance of control if the people knew this.

[BADecker]

I though I was against BLM. Now we are finding reasons for Republicans to be in favor of BLM.


Black Lives Matter is a TROJAN HORSE that is DESTROYING the Democrat Party!!!

A NEW CONSERVATIVE AGE IS RISING The Black Lives Matter movement is a Trojan Horse that is even now DESTROYING the Democrat Party! In this video, we're going to look at precisely why BLM represents such an existential threat to the leftist establishment in our nation, and we're going to see the myriad of ways in which BLM activists are beginning to bring the Democrat Party and its leadership to their knees; you're not going to want to miss this!

Black Lives Matter is a TROJAN HORSE that is DESTROYING the Democrat Party!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLVb0j6aIo0

[Gyfts]

I don't understand the support for BLM when their entire movement is about Marxist politics and trying to funnel their donations into democratic candidates.

They're not even about protecting black lives, just pushing their trashy political agenda under the guise that black lives matter. If a black police officer dies, they're completely silent. If a black person dies at the hands of another black person, apparently that black life doesn't matter.

[BADecker]

I don't understand the support for BLM when their entire movement is about Marxist politics and trying to funnel their donations into democratic candidates.

They're not even about protecting black lives, just pushing their trashy political agenda under the guise that black lives matter. If a black police officer dies, they're completely silent. If a black person dies at the hands of another black person, apparently that black life doesn't matter.

Two things:
1. Many people don't understand that it is Marxism, or even what Marxism is;
2. Marxism would be very good IF all Marxists remained, humble, honest people, forever. The two big problems with Marxism are:
     A. Marxist leaders become greedy;
     B. Nobody knows how to control the economy properly without a good, big share of supply and demand.

The poor, trodden-down people who become Marxists, might be doing so for legitimate reasons... the current system has left them impoverished. The problem is, if they can't figure out how to make a good living for themselves with the current system, they aren't smart enough to realize that they don't know if Marxism will be any better or not.

Many of them are simply rioters at heart.

[Gyfts]

1. Many people don't understand that it is Marxism, or even what Marxism is;
2. Marxism would be very good IF all Marxists remained, humble, honest people, forever. The two big problems with Marxism are:
     A. Marxist leaders become greedy;
     B. Nobody knows how to control the economy properly without a good, big share of supply and demand.

The poor, trodden-down people who become Marxists, might be doing so for legitimate reasons... the current system has left them impoverished. The problem is, if they can't figure out how to make a good living for themselves with the current system, they aren't smart enough to realize that they don't know if Marxism will be any better or not.

Many of them are simply rioters at heart.

Communism works great if all of mankind's desire was to live autonomously and merely exist. Communism doesn't account for human greed which is why communism will never the less turn into an authoritarian hell hole like China.

To your point, communist are too stupid for their own good, hence why they're communist.

[PrimeNumber7]

2. Marxism would be very good IF all Marxists remained, humble, honest people, forever. The two big problems with Marxism are:
     A. Marxist leaders become greedy;
     B. Nobody knows how to control the economy properly without a good, big share of supply and demand.

This is false. There is no such thing as a utopia.

For evidence, I would advise you to read books such as 'Animinal Farm' and '1984'

Socialiam (and its sister, Communism) will start out well, however, it will always turn bad after existing resources are used up, and people realize, and take advance of the incentives of either not working or working less, and being less productive.

[Ender19]

a statue of Thomas jefferson has been violated, because he was also a "slave owner"

nowadays equity owners are in principle something similar.

but,

if BLM truly cares so much about slavery, why is it just tearing down statues of slave traders and slave owners from centuries long ago.

why aren't they protesting against the current slavery in Africa. why so hypocritical?

also why do they call the police when someone drives into their protesting rallies?

the only logical answer is BLM is simply a racist movement, otherwise it would protest for the current slaves in africa and not attack figures of american colonisation and foundation.

This straight up reminds me of jews not protesting what's happening to Palestinians. They'll cry about the holocaust (horrible yes but generations old now) and then turn a blind eye to their VERY OWN ISRAELI GOVERNMENT doing the same to Palestinians?! Holy fuck.

[mindrust]

if BLM truly cares so much about slavery, why is it just tearing down statues of slave traders and slave owners from centuries long ago.

why aren't they protesting against the current slavery in Africa. why so hypocritical?

Maybe it is because they live in America, not Africa? So they don't care about the slavery in Africa? And they don't have to?

Do you protest against the corruption that is happening in Saudi Arabia or I don't know, Russia?

Not that I agree with everything BLM says.

I don't really care. I don't have any black people around here, I don't live in America neither. (see my point?)

[KingScorpio]

if BLM truly cares so much about slavery, why is it just tearing down statues of slave traders and slave owners from centuries long ago.

why aren't they protesting against the current slavery in Africa. why so hypocritical?

Maybe it is because they live in America, not Africa? So they don't care about the slavery in Africa? And they don't have to?

Do you protest against the corruption that is happening in Saudi Arabia or I don't know, Russia?

Not that I agree with everything BLM says.

I don't really care. I don't have any black people around here, I don't live in America neither. (see my point?)

why are they not acting like rightwingers demanding war and military interventions in africa to free slaves?

they are simply anti white racist, they are not even marxists.

[KingScorpio]

a statue of Thomas jefferson has been violated, because he was also a "slave owner"

nowadays equity owners are in principle something similar.

but,

if BLM truly cares so much about slavery, why is it just tearing down statues of slave traders and slave owners from centuries long ago.

why aren't they protesting against the current slavery in Africa. why so hypocritical?

also why do they call the police when someone drives into their protesting rallies?

the only logical answer is BLM is simply a racist movement, otherwise it would protest for the current slaves in africa and not attack figures of american colonisation and foundation.

Whataboutism is not an argument but a fallacy. And big disorganized movements like BLM and Antifa are not wholly responsible for acts done by parts of them. It would be the same thing to find an atheist serial killer and then try to paint all atheists as serial killers.


By the way, can you link to the specific Jefferson statue so we can learn about that story? I saw a video of some high schoolers taking down a jefferson statue. Honestly, I say it's fair game in the context of a high school. If the statue was in a museum, or if the statue itself had historical significance then I'd be against it. But some shitty little statue in a high school, I don't really care.

That being said, I don't really care if historical figures like Jefferson owned slaves. That's just the times they lived in. We should be able to take our history warts and all, just like if a great writer was a murderer or a rapist that wouldn't make his/her books any less valuable. Same with a great scientist. People are not either good or bad, they're more complicated than that.

people that attack whataboutism don't want to be exposed as hypocrits.

[Ender19]

My reply was deleted because I mentioned the state of Israel.

WOOOOOWWWWWWWW

[BADecker]

My reply was deleted because I mentioned the state of Israel.

WOOOOOWWWWWWWW

Is that what a moderator told you? Or was it a self-moderated site, moderated by the OP?

[BADecker]

2. Marxism would be very good IF all Marxists remained, humble, honest people, forever. The two big problems with Marxism are:
     A. Marxist leaders become greedy;
     B. Nobody knows how to control the economy properly without a good, big share of supply and demand.

This is false. There is no such thing as a utopia.

For evidence, I would advise you to read books such as 'Animinal Farm' and '1984'

Socialiam (and its sister, Communism) will start out well, however, it will always turn bad after existing resources are used up, and people realize, and take advance of the incentives of either not working or working less, and being less productive.

What are you talking about? All people die... it seems. So, there are aspects of life that are not good no matter how you live. Everybody knows that there is no utopia.

If Marxist leaders all were top-of-the-line honorable all the time, and if they allowed much supply and demand, Marxism would be great. But since the leaders are NOT honorable much of the time, and since they don't allow supply and demand much of the time, Marxism will fail... just like all the rest, except faster, maybe.

[Barnabe]

if BLM truly cares so much about slavery, why is it just tearing down statues of slave traders and slave owners from centuries long ago.

why aren't they protesting against the current slavery in Africa. why so hypocritical?

Maybe it is because they live in America, not Africa? So they don't care about the slavery in Africa? And they don't have to?

Do you protest against the corruption that is happening in Saudi Arabia or I don't know, Russia?

Not that I agree with everything BLM says.

I don't really care. I don't have any black people around here, I don't live in America neither. (see my point?)

You can still protest the politics enacted by these countries by doing it in front of a consulate or an embassy (which are de facto foreign countries territories). If you see it from an absolute point of view, a change of situation in these countries would benefit their "minorities" situation by a great deal, so activism for the people in these countries would be much better overall.

[KingScorpio]

if BLM truly cares so much about slavery, why is it just tearing down statues of slave traders and slave owners from centuries long ago.

why aren't they protesting against the current slavery in Africa. why so hypocritical?

Maybe it is because they live in America, not Africa? So they don't care about the slavery in Africa? And they don't have to?

Do you protest against the corruption that is happening in Saudi Arabia or I don't know, Russia?

Not that I agree with everything BLM says.

I don't really care. I don't have any black people around here, I don't live in America neither. (see my point?)

You can still protest the politics enacted by these countries by doing it in front of a consulate or an embassy (which are de facto foreign countries territories). If you see it from an absolute point of view, a change of situation in these countries would benefit their "minorities" situation by a great deal, so activism for the people in these countries would be much better overall.

exactly they never burned a sudan flag in front of a sudan embassy, but tearing down white history figures thats what they love to do -> hyprocrits

[BADecker]

if BLM truly cares so much about slavery, why is it just tearing down statues of slave traders and slave owners from centuries long ago.

why aren't they protesting against the current slavery in Africa. why so hypocritical?

Maybe it is because they live in America, not Africa? So they don't care about the slavery in Africa? And they don't have to?

Do you protest against the corruption that is happening in Saudi Arabia or I don't know, Russia?

Not that I agree with everything BLM says.

I don't really care. I don't have any black people around here, I don't live in America neither. (see my point?)

You can still protest the politics enacted by these countries by doing it in front of a consulate or an embassy (which are de facto foreign countries territories). If you see it from an absolute point of view, a change of situation in these countries would benefit their "minorities" situation by a great deal, so activism for the people in these countries would be much better overall.

exactly they never burned a sudan flag in front of a sudan embassy, but tearing down white history figures thats what they love to do -> hyprocrits

Yabut, they are so poor that this is all they have to burn to keep warm. Besides, even Abraham Lincoln, one of our most celebrated presidents, favored Marxism.


Dishonest Abe Lincoln Was a Big Fan of Karl Marx, They Even Corresponded (Video)

A July 27, 2019 article in the Washington Post by Gillian Brockell was headlined, "You Know Who Was into Karl Marx?  No, not AOC.  Abraham Lincoln."  Following up on the New York Times' 2017 weeks-long celebration of the centenary of the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, the Post was doing its part to celebrate and promote Marxian socialism by crowing that "the first Republican president . . . was surrounded by socialists and looked to them for counsel."  The message being conveyed by the Post was that this is what all American presidents should do.  They should listen to and obey the Washington Post, in other words.

Much of Lincoln's socialilstic "counsel" came from Horace Greeley's New York Tribune, described by the Post as "the newspaper largely responsible for transmitting the ideals and ideas that formed the Republican Party in 1854," many of which were "overtly socialist."