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June 21, 2020, 09:48:21 AM
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For me, let's respect of what the decision was made by Satoshi, he wants this from the start to be presumed pseudonymous for his own safety. There's no way to increase the price of Bitcoin even we know who really the real Satoshi is/are.
I chose to be on this site. Leaving what Satoshi wanted to keep secret was a form of my gratitude for what he/they created. After all, there is no direct benefit we can get if we really can reveal the fact who he really is, right? let the secret be a secret, it will be a unique attraction that will always be discussed by everyone throughout the history of bitcoin.

-- He is still anonymous and will keep being anonymous because he needs it to protect himself as well as his family.
Of course it would have been a different story if Satoshi hadn't kept his identity a secret from the start. It could be that the security of themselves and their families will be threatened. From here I can guess Satoshi's personality which is very visionary and considerate, so he won't carelessly reveal his identity.

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June 21, 2020, 10:37:22 AM
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I agree that don't believe if someone claims to be the real satoshi nakamoto, because until whenever satoshi nakamoto will always be
anonymous. Let's just focus on bitcoin, and respect the wishes of satoshi nakamoto who wants to be anonymous. If we trust someone
as a real satoshi nakamoto, then we will be victims of fraud. This is very detrimental to us.

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June 22, 2020, 07:44:48 AM
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If Satoshi Nakamoto in its first intention wants to be known; well he would not wait 10 years in the first place. If not with Satoshi Nakamoto the goal and vision of Bitcoin will not reflect among what it is right now. So, anybody saying they are Satoshi is considered bizarre.

Once Nakamoto in its entirety, meets with the public: he will become the most famous person in the world, worthy than any hollywood actors/actresses. For sure, he will not do that scene. Unless he is not He but they?

If Satoshi Nakamoto will meet up the public because he realized, he is famous but no one even recognized him (if he wants to become a public figure offcourse) then markets of bitcoin will fly beyond the moon-knowing that there is still hope for another hedge on bitcoins network devs. Will these are only "what ifs".

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June 22, 2020, 04:46:23 PM
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About the satoshi mystery.

There will be no proof of satoshi. The only way for satoshi to reveal that he is truly him, is to sign a message. We can make many theories about who could be, but the only "proof" is that. End of story. And yes, I believe too that if we find out who is he/she, it will affect the bitcoin's value and price.

I don't know how people have calculated that he/she has more than 1MBTC but if it's true, he is a big threat to the economy. (If those BTC are accessable)

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June 23, 2020, 02:33:45 AM
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There could be many reasons behind this. First of all, it is a big deal. A lot of big power and money matters are involved here. On the one hand, one's own security is involved here, on the other hand, the security of the whole family is also involved. And many will want to claim it for themselves because it is a matter of great honor to him.
But we can't accept anyone in this place because the administration is involved here and all our money can be wasted.
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June 23, 2020, 04:53:33 AM
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Great study but I disagree. Maybe revealing the real identity of Satoshi creates some enormous effects on the crypto world but it doesn't necessarily cause death of Bitcoin since Bitcoin has already become something near a public property.
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June 23, 2020, 05:13:07 AM
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May be the real Satoshi would never show up because he would have never estimated that bitcoin's price would have increase so much.
He knows that if he shows up then people might actually panic and spread the FUD that Satoshi would sell his coins which would drain bitcoin's price.
Anyway, Satoshi has not shown up yet and everybody else who is impersonating him is just fake.
Why we should not trust anybody is because if Satoshi would show up then we would know.
This forum has some great people who are good at identifying identities and I am sure they will be able to tell if the person is actaul Satoshi or not.

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June 23, 2020, 09:52:13 AM
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Not necessarily...for that fact that many people would claim to be like him and to proclaim themselves but has nothing proved.
Do we have the DNA test of Satoshi? Not for sure he has the record left and to proves the true identity of Mr. Satoshi. To keep him anonymously will be the benefits of every to (as I think) and this will also imply that crypto will remain anonymous as what the creator projected to be.


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June 23, 2020, 11:23:11 AM
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Not necessarily...for that fact that many people would claim to be like him and to proclaim themselves but has nothing proved.
Do we have the DNA test of Satoshi? Not for sure he has the record left and to proves the true identity of Mr. Satoshi. To keep him anonymously will be the benefits of every to (as I think) and this will also imply that crypto will remain anonymous as what the creator projected to be.



You don't need his DNA to prove that he is the real one. Just to move a bitcoin from the first or second address. That's enough.

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June 23, 2020, 11:40:53 AM
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So far we had so many persons who claimed they were Satosho Nakamoto that now even if the real one appeared no one would have believed him.
I don't think that real Satoshi will ever reveal true identity and that is for a reason. But people are so obsessed to know who that person is and that is why we have so many false ones. Everyone of them thinks it will be able to convince people and have some use of it or at least publicity.

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June 23, 2020, 12:18:43 PM
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The real Satoshi will never reveal his identity. The strong proof here is the blockchain which main objective is to decentralized all the transaction of future money. I believe Satoshi has separate wallet which containing huge chunk of BTC that sufficient for him in his daily needs. There's a lot of danger waiting for him if he will reveal identity and one of it are the founder of banking system and government.

So in conclusion. All people that claim he is Satoshi is a fake, Same with the future claim. I will cut my balls if he really appear and verified. Screenshot this post and PM me once it really happened.  Cool

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June 23, 2020, 12:21:48 PM
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To date, I have heard several times about impostors who call themselves Satoshi Nakamoto. An example is the former DJ from Germany, Jörg Molt, who calls himself the creator of Bitcoin and at the same time creates his own school called the Satoshi School, where he educates people online in everything related to cryptocurrency. There is another example where the Hawaiian fraudster Ronald Kela Kua Maria, quite seriously calls himself Satoshi Nakamoto, and Craig Wright does not even need to talk about the well-known, as this is a very famous person. therefore, due to speculation on the name of Satoshi Nakamoto, I think no cryptocurrency user will believe such people who can’t even give basic evidence of their innocence.

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June 23, 2020, 02:49:57 PM
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Well, you’re right in the sense that it Satoshi Nakamoto shows up today he will be able to influence a lot of people.
But, I don’t think he would like to change this invention, he’d rather leave it the way it and only make a few improvements just to fix things that were not done perfectly when he created it. This way you make sense by saying like we should never need to believe into anyone as the real satoshi. I agree with you on this.

I don’t think he will change the way bitcoin works by making it regulation-friendly, unless the government is going to force him to do something like that (if it’s possible). But if he does, a lot of people might decide to stop making use of bitcoin, because there are lots of people that are making use of bitcoin because of the freedom they do get from it.
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June 23, 2020, 08:04:20 PM
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Because the real Satoshi will never reveal his real identity, and it can also be a group of people.
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June 23, 2020, 10:56:43 PM
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You don't need his DNA to prove that he is the real one. Just to move a bitcoin from the first or second address. That's enough.

It has been mentioned in the thread that moving coins would not be a proof of someone being Satoshi. It would only prove that this person has access to Satoshi's coins. It wouldn't be the first time that a wallet has changed hands.

If you saw your father's car driving down the street you'd assume it's him, but it could very well be his brother or one of his friends.

The real Satoshi disappeared for a reason. He's either dead or hiding and won't come out for fame like CSW.
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June 24, 2020, 12:13:44 AM
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TRUSTING SOMEONE TO BE SATOSHI COULD MEAN THE END OF BTC AS WE KNOW IT.....

Trusting someone for being the real Satoshi might mean unknowingly trusting an entity who might want to destroy what the initial project meant to turn Bitcoin into and allowing a big change that may end up to be the death of Bitcoin as we know it.

You have made numerous good points, but I abbreviate your post to this and have a question.

When the Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer method of e-transaction that can operate WITHOUT TRUST, why does the question of TRUST AS TO IT'S CREATER even arise?

It should be improper on first principles.
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June 24, 2020, 10:52:09 AM
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Because Satoshi will never reveal his identity, it's not profitable, it's not safe, never.
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June 24, 2020, 11:05:08 AM
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If Satoshi Nakamoto in its first intention wants to be known; well he would not wait 10 years in the first place. If not with Satoshi Nakamoto the goal and vision of Bitcoin will not reflect among what it is right now. So, anybody saying they are Satoshi is considered bizarre.
The intention of him was not to be popular but is a pure innovation for a currency revolution he could've done press conference when he launched it out. We don't need to know him personally anymore, it's his privacy and of course for security. For those people who are claiming that they are Satoshi? I like your boldness but you guys are insane.

Once Nakamoto in its entirety, meets with the public: he will become the most famous person in the world, worthy than any hollywood actors/actresses. For sure, he will not do that scene. Unless he is not He but they?
There is no chance that he'll be out for publicity, he could've also done this in 2017 to make a strong statement to bitcoin.

If Satoshi Nakamoto will meet up the public because he realized, he is famous but no one even recognized him (if he wants to become a public figure offcourse) then markets of bitcoin will fly beyond the moon-knowing that there is still hope for another hedge on bitcoins network devs. Will these are only "what ifs".
Revealing himself will just cause unnecessary events, it is better to keep his/their mouth shut to prevent unwanted conflicts.



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June 26, 2020, 11:09:04 PM
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There will be no proof of satoshi.

There are traces of him in the past where he is active. But we can't really prove someone to be him since that is what we have. Private Messages, Emails. In the past, I have this idea of making a thread about the old users using their profile number and asking them about Satoshi, one user replied to me and said that they did not even talk or still don't know each other. That might help since we might be able to check the earlier members of the forum and might be someone close to him but still, they can just always lie, that is why I stop.

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June 27, 2020, 04:51:42 PM
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Hiding Satoshi himself was referring to someone who does not want the world to know who he is. Tor has used a lot of ways to protect his IP addresses. His mastery of the English language and his use of a fake name will make it difficult to know his identity.
why do you need to know who he is? Many people do not use Bitcoin not because it is unknown, but rather because it led to speculation with high volatility, most of them do not know who is Satoshi and therefore do not care about that.
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