The fourm accepts GRIN... why?

[FFrankie]

It's a dead coin per their website and 90% of the developers have left.

I don't think this fourm should accept grin because that would cause why support a dead thing




https://forum.grin.mw/t/beam-price-higher-than-grin-today/7424/14

^There is the post which made me make this thread to ask about

[suchmoon]

Where does the website say that it's dead or that "90% of the developers have left"? Link?

And why is this in Marketplace...

[anonymousminer]

https://grin.mw/

Looks fine to me.

[Coyster]

...grin support might be removed later if it dies off or becomes too time-consuming for me to maintain.

The forum still accepts/supports Grin, that can only mean Grin is not a dead coin and doing just fine.

[FFrankie]

Where does the website say that it's dead or that "90% of the developers have left"? Link?

And why is this in Marketplace...

https://forum.grin.mw




Somewhere there, in some thread.



https://forum.grin.mw/t/beam-price-higher-than-grin-today/7424/46

Somewhere in that thread I think

I didn't make this thread in meta? Whoops

[suchmoon]

https://forum.grin.mw

Somewhere there, in some thread.

I'm sure there are threads on Bitcointalk that say Bitcoin is dead but that doesn't really mean much, does it? As far as I know Grin is not particularly popular but still chugging along and there is a planned hardfork coming soon so someone is still working on it.

[FFrankie]

https://forum.grin.mw

Somewhere there, in some thread.

I'm sure there are threads on Bitcointalk that say Bitcoin is dead but that doesn't really mean much, does it? As far as I know Grin is not particularly popular but still chugging along and there is a planned hardfork coming soon so someone is still working on it.

https://forum.grin.mw/t/beam-price-higher-than-grin-today/7424/14

^There is the post which made me make this thread to ask about

[Steamtyme]

Here is why the forum accepts Grin ~sniped~

I'm super excited about grin. All past altcoins have been just Bitcoin with a few bits tacked on; occasionally these extra bits are useful/interesting (eg. Monero or Ethereum), but in the vast majority of cases this extra stuff is just meaningless marketing-oriented garbage. But grin is packed full of useful innovation from top to bottom; moreover, it's clearly built in the same cypherpunk spirit that Bitcoin was: increased freedom/sovereignty through technology.

Therefore, I'm happy to announce that the forum is now accepting grin payments automatically, probably the first site other than exchanges to do so. You'll find a link at the bottom of the evil-fee and copper-membership pages.

Taken from the linked post above

no, grin is not dead yet, but we have to be careful, and try to analyse clearly what works and does not work.

Overall it's a non-issue really. theymos used to maintain threads of Alt coins he thought were promising so it's not surprising he decided to add a coin that peaked his interests to the forums accepted currencies. There is also no negative impact to the forums finances as theymos stated this in the announcement. The entire quoted announcement has more detail on the why.

Currently I own zero grin (though I will be buying from the forum all grin obtained), I was not paid to add grin support, and in fact not a soul knew that I was going to do so. grin support might be removed later if it dies off or becomes too time-consuming for me to maintain.

[YOSHIE]

https://forum.grin.mw/t/beam-price-higher-than-grin-today/7424/14

^There is the post which made me make this thread to ask about

Are you talking about this: Topic: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven.

https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-v3-0-0-hard-fork-upgrade-jan-2020/6036

They should have reached: Hard Fork this year.

Testnet Hard Fork Block Height   298,080
Testnet Hard Fork Date (expected)   2019-12-19
Hard Fork Block Height   524,160
Hard Fork Date (expected)   2020-01-15 (est.)

The second network upgrade is expected to happen in mid-January 2020

But failed, is that what you mean by "support".

But they already announced about this:

Important Information:

Grin v3.0.0 is a network wide upgrade. Apart from updating their binaries in order to transact after the upgrade, users are not required to do anything. Stored grins will not be affected. Beware of scams telling you to move your coins elsewhere.

[pooya87]

i think you are confusing price with development.

Grin price died the day they decided it is a good idea to have a gigantic supply and no cap. that is not news. i said it the day this forum started accepting it as payment.
but that has nothing to do with the project being dead or developers leaving. and it is stupidly simply to check. you simply pop over to their GitHub repository and see what they are doing. for starters here is the commit frequency: https://github.com/mimblewimble/grin/graphs/commit-activity
looking at individual commits, they are still pretty active and working on the project. and that is not how a project with "90% of developers left" look like.

this is what an abandoned project looks like: https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/graphs/commit-activity and that's a semi-popular coin

[boissonnea]

It's a dead coin per their website and 90% of the developers have left.
I don't think this fourm should accept grin because that would cause why support a dead thing

If you prove that it is a dead coin  or 90% of the developers have left, admin will remove it.
I do not know if he is still enthusiastic about grin, but the price is not a measure. We will not see it amount to 10,000 dollars, because it is a currency intended for daily use, and that mining it makes some profits.

[mindrust]

Grin is another experimental crypto currency just like bitcoin.

The admin (theymos) believes grin brought something unique* to the crypto world  so he accepts it as a payment. He wants to see it grow.

*Mimblewimble tech: more anonymous than btc, more usable as a currency than btc. The drawback is because of the constant inflation, it is less of a store of value than btc.

[OgNasty]

i think you are confusing price with development.

When all one cares about is price, that’s the only factor they use to determine a project’s success. It is best to not have that type of individual involved with your project, as they care more about manipulating markets than building a useful project.

[BIT-BENDER]

If by dead you mean grin is not -doing well, getting enough recognition, price are not good- and more

grin is new and clunky to use. I don't expect many people to use it, honestly. But I needed to rewrite the forum payments system anyway in order to support LN in the future and to fix some longstanding issues with the old code, so adding grin support worked out nicely.

It's wasn't about the value of grin or if it was a top crypto-coin, grin just fit into what was needed by the forum.

I'm super excited about grin. All past altcoins have been just Bitcoin with a few bits tacked on; occasionally these extra bits are useful/interesting (eg. Monero or Ethereum), but in the vast majority of cases this extra stuff is just meaningless marketing-oriented garbage. But grin is packed full of useful innovation from top to bottom; moreover, it's clearly built in the same cypherpunk spirit that Bitcoin was: increased freedom/sovereignty through technology.

Other crypto currencies where consider -from the quote above-  but grin fitted in better, not because of the price or adaptation of grin -they where crypto-coin above it in that regards-.

[CjMapope]

interesting thread on GRIN there...

thought:   wow, according to that thread GRIN might not even be here today if not for two 50BTC anon donations keeping it running right now :O

i wonder who THAT was... 

[actmyname]

I don't think this fourm should accept grin because that would cause why support a dead thing

Like epochtalk?

It's such a trivial thing anyway... the coins that you're allowed to buy Copper Membership and thereby use to donate to the forum. Oh no, watch out! They'll engineer a usurping out of you yet, donation options!

[nutildah]

i think you are confusing price with development.

Grin price died the day they decided it is a good idea to have a gigantic supply and no cap. that is not news. i said it the day this forum started accepting it as payment.
but that has nothing to do with the project being dead or developers leaving. and it is stupidly simply to check. you simply pop over to their GitHub repository and see what they are doing. for starters here is the commit frequency: https://github.com/mimblewimble/grin/graphs/commit-activity
looking at individual commits, they are still pretty active and working on the project. and that is not how a project with "90% of developers left" look like.

this is what an abandoned project looks like: https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/graphs/commit-activity and that's a semi-popular coin

I think you are confusing development with GitHub activity. A lot of meaningless commits can be made in order to create the appearance of active development, and not all development surrounding a coin is being made in a single repository. Litecoin's latest commit was actually made before Dogecoin's, and both projects have incredibly active communities. Both coins regularly have 50k active addresses on any given day. They are hardly "abandoned" by any sense of the term. Perhaps they are just relishing the status of not being broken, and as they say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

[pooya87]

looking at individual commits, they are still pretty active and working on the project.

I think you are confusing development with GitHub activity. A lot of meaningless commits can be made in order to create the appearance of active development, and not all development surrounding a coin is being made in a single repository. Litecoin's latest commit was actually made before Dogecoin's, and both projects have incredibly active communities. Both coins regularly have 50k active addresses on any given day. They are hardly "abandoned" by any sense of the term. Perhaps they are just relishing the status of not being broken, and as they say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

that is a good point but as i said i did actually look at individual commits and they don't look meaningless ones to me.
you are also confusing social media with community and development. the Dogecoin "community"  is mainly traders not developers who are interested in making profit or those who are having fun with the jokecoin. also the problem with "copycoins" is that they never really did that much development in first place. both LTC and Doge are copycoins. LTC copied bitcoin and DOGE copied LTC.
DOGE is not abandoned by traders but it is abandoned by developers when last commit was made 8 months ago. and their yearly commit count doesn't even fit in one page!