Lives vs Economy -- sad truth

[Botnake]

I don't think that's true,,because every persons life is precious and government is trying to save everyone, but unfortunately not all patients are given immediate relief due to lack of facilities and patient volume. Even though they wanted to save every one

If the government facilities can't accommodate all the infected people, the worst will come including choosing who's to live and who's to die.
Every life is precious but some people lives will be sacrifice to save the others, I know we don't want to see that but I think it's happening already, of course it will not be a good news so no one would publish that as it would ruin the government.

The virus is very dangerous, it has infected millions of people and killed thousands of lives already, so it's really up to us on how we will take care ourselves as prevention is always better than cure.

The law that the government is imposing is for preventive measures, we should follow it, no questions ask.

[reliable]

That was really happening specially in poor countries and based on what I see. The public hospitals prioritize the younger adults rather than the old ones and also because they are lacking of facility to treat all the patients. Its another story if you're from a rich family and capable to support all the medication needed and can pay the necessary things to cure yourself. Those unfortunate people has no choice but to depend on the government's help to get them cured.

Sort of similar case has happened in our country as well, where the government has clearly instructed to some private hospitals that their say 50% of the beds be for the covid patients and rest it can be for their private patients. But what some of the hospitals did was they allocated less to government and in private they were charging hefty amount those can afford and took huge money to give them the bed and earned more money in this way. Unfortunately life for some hospitals is make maximum money or trace benefit of the situation .
 

[Kakmakr]

It is just a difference in opinion... a lot of people say it is not because younger people are the more productive group...but rather the people that would be more reproductive in the future. You have to protect humankind from extinction and that is why you have to protect the generation that can still reproduce.

Also some people reckon that older people have lived their lives and younger people still have a long life before them to live. I do not agree with any of this and I would much rather protect everyone. Older people have lots of experience to share with the younger generation... why should we allow that to be destroyed? 

[khunyung]

In my opinion saving lives is no priority, everyone has the same rights. If your country prioritizes productive people, for economic reasons
it has violated human rights. The way of life of humans should not be like that, but sometimes some countries did do that. In my country
the same, but the difference in priorities in my country is based on social status. If the person rich people are definitely preferred, this is
a sad fact.

I agree, its a choice which depends on country's govs.
At the same time people choose to obey or riot against gov's decisions

[Fredomago]

Sort of similar case has happened in our country as well, where the government has clearly instructed to some private hospitals that their say 50% of the beds be for the covid patients and rest it can be for their private patients. But what some of the hospitals did was they allocated less to government and in private they were charging hefty amount those can afford and took huge money to give them the bed and earned more money in this way. Unfortunately life for some hospitals is make maximum money or trace benefit of the situation .
 

Sad to say that there are kinds of people who can afford to look after the money than the lives of the people, they give slots for those
who can afford to pay and not paying attentions with how the government instructions, not even with this virus the mindsets of business
owners still prioritizing to earn more from those who can pay them the most.

[Sanugarid]

I don't think that's true,,because every persons life is precious and government is trying to save everyone, but unfortunately not all patients are given immediate relief due to lack of facilities and patient volume. Even though they wanted to save every one

If the government facilities can't accommodate all the infected people, the worst will come including choosing who's to live and who's to die.
Every life is precious but some people lives will be sacrifice to save the others, I know we don't want to see that but I think it's happening already, of course it will not be a good news so no one would publish that as it would ruin the government.

The very same point of mine, every lives matter but there are greater lives to be prioritize and there are factors to be consider when saving lives. It's the same as who you will be saving in a burning card, a kid or an adult, most probably most of us will answer that we'll pick up the kid first, same case as for covid-19.

The virus is very dangerous, it has infected millions of people and killed thousands of lives already, so it's really up to us on how we will take care ourselves as prevention is always better than cure.

Not only the pandemic virus is the problem now, I've been seeing a lot of disease outbreaks in various countries and it is really alarming.


*just an update for this thread, my friend who has been quarantined is positive with covid-19, what's good is that he's showing good signs of recovery.

[peiReef7z]

Why don't they care about hospitals to save the lives of everyone?
countries are more interested in building restaurants, luxury and entertainment than education and health.
countries have spent millions to host events from football, the end of games and entertainment, but they have spent little on health and treatment.
Age does not matter, it is this humanity that makes an individual's life precious whatever his age.

[freedomgo]

Why don't they care about hospitals to save the lives of everyone?

They want to but they can't save everyone, that is the reality because we haven't prepared for this pandemic.

countries are more interested in building restaurants, luxury and entertainment than education and health.
countries have spent millions to host events from football, the end of games and entertainment, but they have spent little on health and treatment.
Age does not matter, it is this humanity that makes an individual's life precious whatever his age.

That was before the pandemic, but now the government are more focus on the health matters and big portion of its budget are going into this war, if only we see this coming, we have prepared for this, although Bill Gates said in one of his interview that virus like this will come but our government did not see it as its a serious threat, so hopefully we will learn from this.

[ChiBitCTy]

I guess this must all depend on where you live. Here in the united states we prioritize hospital visits/health care for those whom are more prone to health risks such as the older community or those who have major health issues that could be set off by covid.

[arallmuus]

They want to but they can't save everyone, that is the reality because we haven't prepared for this pandemic.

Some country did exceptionally well in the pandemic like China and Singapore

now the government are more focus on the health matters

Some country has already start their economy back otherwise they wont survive this pandemic any much longer. Few months after most country declared their first case of the virus, lot of those country invest heavily into improving their healthcare system but now it would be different. They need to restart everything at the cost of lives otherwise alot more lives will be at stake

[Renampun]

They want to but they can't save everyone, that is the reality because we haven't prepared for this pandemic.

Some country did exceptionally well in the pandemic like China and Singapore

China is a communist country and Singapore a developed country...
Chinese citizens are very obedient to their government because of the very strict communist doctrine there, severe punishment will befall them if they fight the country while in many democratic countries there are still many who oppose the state even do not believe in the existence of the coronavirus, while Singapore has a majority of people who are smart and very caring with their health. This is the reason why China and Singapore are able to cope with the corona well.

[Gozie51]

The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person. The government is really doing this for the economy in the future days.

I think this is not the right way about going on safeguarding of lives. Yes young people are likely to stay alive or respond to treatment faster but there are certain times that an old person lives beyond expectation of time of death while the young keep dying. The government should be more active in the bid to protect the old ones against this virus. They shouldn't be left unattended because they are said to be closer to "dying".

[FlightyPouch]

The thing here is that the government can't save all lives right now, its a pandemic. There is no actual vaccine to kill the virus. The government is not ready for this and I think most of the countries are not that ready when it comes to medical supplies. They can't undo those people who died, what they can do now is to take care of what they have and rebuild for the sake of who died.

[freedomgo]

They want to but they can't save everyone, that is the reality because we haven't prepared for this pandemic.

Some country did exceptionally well in the pandemic like China and Singapore

yes, because they are first world country in Asia, they have good facilities and good government, but other countries are not facing the pandemic effectively.

now the government are more focus on the health matters

Some country has already start their economy back otherwise they wont survive this pandemic any much longer. Few months after most country declared their first case of the virus, lot of those country invest heavily into improving their healthcare system but now it would be different. They need to restart everything at the cost of lives otherwise alot more lives will be at stake

Economy is very important, same us lives of course but it's not always possible to protect both, there are some who would suffer along the way as that's how dangerous this virus is, but it should not stop us or the economy. If in big countries like in the US and UE can't control it, let us expect even worst in small countries if people will not cooperate with the government.

[Mahanton]

As we are dealing with the pandemic, the virus disease is prone to old citizens they have a weaker immune system than an average person and young adults although we also have a lot of cases of them too but there are more people who ages 40+ in the tallied cases. The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person. The government is really doing this for the economy in the future days.

We really have to deal with deaths, it is part of living 

I dont know but my point of view for this one is that they do prioritize off younger ages since they know that chances of surviving is high compared to those people who do had older age.
We dont know if its intentional or they do just become practical on dealing up with things in talks of survival. This isnt really something that we should really be concerned up much because
medical personnels are trying out their best and risking out their lives to save up other peoples live which we should appreciate on rather than making up some questions on what theyve been
doing in terms of patient treatment.

[Questat]

As we are dealing with the pandemic, the virus disease is prone to old citizens they have a weaker immune system than an average person and young adults although we also have a lot of cases of them too but there are more people who ages 40+ in the tallied cases. The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person. The government is really doing this for the economy in the future days.

We really have to deal with deaths, it is part of living 

I dont know but my point of view for this one is that they do prioritize off younger ages since they know that chances of surviving is high compared to those people who do had older age.

I think that's the right way to describe it, "PRIORITIZE", instead of "CHOOSING WHO WILL LIVE".

We dont know if its intentional or they do just become practical on dealing up with things in talks of survival. This isnt really something that we should really be concerned up much because
medical personnels are trying out their best and risking out their lives to save up other peoples live which we should appreciate on rather than making up some questions on what theyve been
doing in terms of patient treatment.

Even the biggest countries with the most advance facilities in the world are struggling, and it's very visible since we have proof that their number of cases is continuously increasing, so what would happen to the less developed countries with very limited facilities?

[slapper]

As we are dealing with the pandemic, the virus disease is prone to old citizens they have a weaker immune system than an average person and young adults although we also have a lot of cases of them too but there are more people who ages 40+ in the tallied cases. The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person. The government is really doing this for the economy in the future days.

We really have to deal with deaths, it is part of living 

There should not be any priority in saving any individual life. But its sad that people only focus their time and efforts to save younger adults. There are too many people who have the virus and they need to make a choice who to save and who not to save. We do not have enough doctors and medical equipment in order to save all of them. That's how life currently works and we need to accept that truth. Right now, many countries have gained back their economic strength and force the virus to leave their countries. Hopefully, we will soon find a cure for this pandemic

[tbterryboy]

There should not be any priority in saving any individual life. But its sad that people only focus their time and efforts to save younger adults. There are too many people who have the virus and they need to make a choice who to save and who not to save. We do not have enough doctors and medical equipment in order to save all of them. That's how life currently works and we need to accept that truth.

Yep you’re making a point here, there shouldn’t be anything like making some individuals a priority and the rest less of a priority. We are all human beings no matter your age or where you’re from. Everyone should be treated as others. Unless in a situation there is not enough space in the hospital and the individual’s case is less severe.

The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person.

I am not understanding where you said that there is a preference to save those at younger age than the old ones. I have not heard that such is being done. From what I know, when you arrive at the hospital, they will check you and if your case is a serious one then they will give you a bed to stay in the hospital. But if it’s a less serious case, they will tell you to go home and take care of yourself and isolate as well. They are doing this because the isolation centers will not be able to contain everyone that’s having the Coronavirus.

[lienfaye]

I dont know but my point of view for this one is that they do prioritize off younger ages since they know that chances of surviving is high compared to those people who do had older age.
We dont know if its intentional or they do just become practical on dealing up with things in talks of survival. This isnt really something that we should really be concerned up much because
medical personnels are trying out their best and risking out their lives to save up other peoples live which we should appreciate on rather than making up some questions on what theyve been
doing in terms of patient treatment.

Intentional or not we should know first the status of the hospitals and facilities if they are capable to accept patients. Most hospitals are already full of covid patients and cant accomodate other infected. I think health care providers wont prioritize who to attend to first, unless if this person think highly of himself and wanted to be prioritize first for having influence and money.

[Negotiation]

I think if the patient is not seriously ill then the health worker of the hospital may think about their health instruct them to go home with little treatment instead of staying there because at present the environment of the hospital is very bad. If the virus doesn't cause much trouble you don't want to keep anyone in the hospital That's why seniors are told to eat vitamin-rich foods at home to boost their immunity which will help boost their immunity.