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July 02, 2020, 06:49:28 AM
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I don't think that's true,,because every persons life is precious and government is trying to save everyone, but unfortunately not all patients are given immediate relief due to lack of facilities and patient volume. Even though they wanted to save every one

That's the thing that the governments should prioritize right now, not all those other issues in their country. Here in our country, the government is not that responsible and not allocating the proper budget for this pandemic. They are not prioritizing the health sector which is bad for those who are infected by this Covid-19. Our government officials are very corrupt and they don't care about the situation especially those poor people who are really suffering from this pandemic. We all know that the government should also focus on the economic sector because that's the thing that is really affected due to lockdown and businesses are unable to operate. Hoping that we overcome this struggle and deal with the reality of life.

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July 02, 2020, 11:28:53 AM
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I think if the patient is not seriously ill then the health worker of the hospital may think about their health instruct them to go home with little treatment instead of staying there because at present the environment of the hospital is very bad. If the virus doesn't cause much trouble you don't want to keep anyone in the hospital That's why seniors are told to eat vitamin-rich foods at home to boost their immunity which will help boost their immunity.

They can do that but those patients who wants to ensure safety, they'll like to get treated in the hospital as covid-19 is not just a simple fever that will just go away when you drink a medicine as your treatment. It's more serious since once patients are fully recovered, there's no guarantee that they will not be get infected again, so this really put our lives into risk, and those oldies with weaker immune system, they are pretty much prone to the virus.

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July 02, 2020, 12:31:19 PM
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As we are dealing with the pandemic, the virus disease is prone to old citizens they have a weaker immune system than an average person and young adults although we also have a lot of cases of them too but there are more people who ages 40+ in the tallied cases. The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person. The government is really doing this for the economy in the future days.

We really have to deal with deaths, it is part of living  Cry
Sorry mate but is this what happening in your country?Because here in mine OLD person are the priority of the government,They even received multiple support from the government,They even advised not to Go out because they are prone to this virus.
The thing here is that the government can't save all lives right now, 
the government are doing everything to save everyone but of course we also know that this can't happen because even the Strongest and most technological countries are suffering from dying people.
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July 02, 2020, 09:56:41 PM
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This is really a sad truth health crisis really affect the economy one example of it is the corona virus, the economy really become affected because we need to stay at home so that the virus will not spread, it is really called life vs economy if we are going to go out and do work or job the economy will rise again but our life will be compromise the very best thing to do is to follow our government instruction and be safe.
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July 02, 2020, 10:39:38 PM
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This is really a sad truth health crisis really affect the economy one example of it is the corona virus, the economy really become affected because we need to stay at home so that the virus will not spread, it is really called life vs economy if we are going to go out and do work or job the economy will rise again but our life will be compromise the very best thing to do is to follow our government instruction and be safe.

Well, it is a pandemic and it is really inevitable. What we can do right now is to start having profit even if we are just in our houses. Although we can't all do that since there are those people who rely on other things which they can't go to because of the lockdown.

It is time for people to consider investing in stocks and crypto currencies because of the fact that stocks are just starting to heal.

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July 02, 2020, 11:12:24 PM
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Because health and economic relations are interrelated. a healthy body but with economic difficulties, it is vulnerable to illness. people who are rich but sick, that wealth cannot be enjoyed. infants and parents are the most vulnerable.the most important thing is that the group is still concerned about their health and is given a place.

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July 03, 2020, 04:42:07 AM
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I think if the patient is not seriously ill then the health worker of the hospital may think about their health instruct them to go home with little treatment instead of staying there because at present the environment of the hospital is very bad. If the virus doesn't cause much trouble you don't want to keep anyone in the hospital That's why seniors are told to eat vitamin-rich foods at home to boost their immunity which will help boost their immunity.

Sadly, there are those officials that abuse their powers.

There is this incident in our country where a politician use their power so that they will be added on the people who will be tested despite them not being positive at that time. Also, at that time, test kits are limited and they are prioritizing those people that tested positive.
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July 03, 2020, 07:28:10 AM
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As we are dealing with the pandemic, the virus disease is prone to old citizens they have a weaker immune system than an average person and young adults although we also have a lot of cases of them too but there are more people who ages 40+ in the tallied cases. The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person. The government is really doing this for the economy in the future days.
No! That's not true. I do believe that a life is a life so it should be saved despite of its quality. The call of dictating who's gonna live or not is not our call, it's God. So I strongly believe that doctors and the rest of health force don't care whether you are a young thief covid patient or an old pastor covid patient, they are both equal thus will both save you as much as they can.

Actually, I got the same mindset like yours before — always going for the greater good. But my environment influenced me to change. I'm getting inspired every time I watch the news and see a 60+ yrs. old woman recovered and even an infant. This means that people are naturally compassionate and value the most precious gift of our God Smiley.
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July 03, 2020, 12:20:39 PM
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This is really a sad truth health crisis really affect the economy one example of it is the corona virus, the economy really become affected because we need to stay at home so that the virus will not spread, it is really called life vs economy if we are going to go out and do work or job the economy will rise again but our life will be compromise the very best thing to do is to follow our government instruction and be safe.
It is happening in many countries, and we are not alone.
We are now at a new normal which people can go out of their home to do many things, including working again.
But people who don't have a job will still search for a new job to make money.
We hope that in this new normal, the number of infected people can reduce, and the infected people can cure so that we can have a healthy life as before.
We still need to take care of our health because the pandemic is not going to an end yet, and hopefully, the vaccine will be found soon.

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July 03, 2020, 03:38:34 PM
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As we are dealing with the pandemic, the virus disease is prone to old citizens they have a weaker immune system than an average person and young adults although we also have a lot of cases of them too but there are more people who ages 40+ in the tallied cases. The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person. The government is really doing this for the economy in the future days.

We really have to deal with deaths, it is part of living  Cry

If the hospitala has priority based on age or neglecting the elderly, it is the same as letting the virus spread. Social facts, the elderly are more concerned and prioritized by their own families. Thus, this kind of priority does not break the chain of virus spread by mediating the elderly. Does the hospitals not think about that?

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July 05, 2020, 08:26:02 AM
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inevitably to the life and death, we are all connected with death and economic problems will exist as long as we still live in a world pandemic also affected by all associated with social, economic and life activities of all people worldwide economic difficulties and deaths have occurred in almost the whole world what we must do today still strive and pray that this pandemic soon end.


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July 05, 2020, 09:37:32 AM
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inevitably to the life and death, we are all connected with death and economic problems will exist as long as we still live in a world pandemic also affected by all associated with social, economic and life activities of all people worldwide economic difficulties and deaths have occurred in almost the whole world what we must do today still strive and pray that this pandemic soon end.
This is part of being human to care and have problem in regards to our future needs,Not like animals that only Hunts when their hungry.

Humans are designed to gather resources to be prepare for future ,and that is what majority of the people realizes these day after the pandemic Kick the world economy.

In my opinion it's hard to be a selfish during this unexpected situation particularly if life is involved because our subject is how to comfort people for salvation,so eventually to prevent a bad consequences there's no need to select. It's unfair, and hopefully that this pandemic has been giving a positive effects like a good example to trigger people to do what is right.aside from this,secondly,life is better than money,so it's all about time to realize if what is valuable.
people don't want to be selfish in right manner now,but what they are doing is securing their family's life so gathering everything
 that they can store is much better.
Just like Ants now we have to be productive and never become lazy if we want to stay living.

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July 05, 2020, 09:55:21 AM
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We like to feel invisible or immortal for that matter. but not thinking about death won't make your life last forever . It takes guts to confront this vulnerable truth: the only sure thing is how uncertain life is.

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July 05, 2020, 01:53:20 PM
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As we are dealing with the pandemic, the virus disease is prone to old citizens they have a weaker immune system than an average person and young adults although we also have a lot of cases of them too but there are more people who ages 40+ in the tallied cases. The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person. The government is really doing this for the economy in the future days.

We really have to deal with deaths, it is part of living  Cry
I heared news like that and we canant avoid such incident. Because that is a sad truth that government give importance to those people  who are still capable of contributing to the economy and let the adult die of the virus because they are no longer capable. But if we lookon the other sides,adult die fast because they have a weak immune system that cannot fight virus unlike the young in age with strong immune system that can fight to survive against the virus. We are all too much affected with this pandemic and not only our economy are now sufferring but most of all are the people who lived in the economy.

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July 05, 2020, 04:00:32 PM
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during this pandemic the hospital may reject the patient for reasons, on the other hand because the room is full of covid-19 patients and the nurses are exhausted because they also need rest. and the hospital will accept corona patients if it is according to the procedure and mechanism. people sometimes look at things like that because they don't know the flow becomes bad grades ... it's so sad when there are co-19 patients rejected...?

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July 05, 2020, 08:52:40 PM
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People do not want to be selfish? There was tons of people all around the world who have gathered as much stuff as they can including toilet papers in order to greatly benefit themselves and sell them at a higher cost. These people basically spent the money they have on toilet paper to sell it at 2x or 3x prices during a pandemic that they thought other people wouldn't be able to buy them, so they were taking advantage of the poor during a potentially world ending crisis.

I am sorry but people are inherently greedy and selfish from the moment they are born, from the day little kid can speak and say "it is my toy you can't play with it!" and we have to teach sharing, to the older people who already have a decent retirement plan so they do not care about the future, we are all selfish in our nature.

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July 05, 2020, 11:59:39 PM
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As we are dealing with the pandemic, the virus disease is prone to old citizens they have a weaker immune system than an average person and young adults although we also have a lot of cases of them too but there are more people who ages 40+ in the tallied cases. The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person. The government is really doing this for the economy in the future days.

We really have to deal with deaths, it is part of living  Cry
Sorry mate but is this what happening in your country?Because here in mine OLD person are the priority of the government,They even received multiple support from the government,They even advised not to Go out because they are prone to this virus.
As you noticed, old ones are instructed not to go out because they are prone to the virus even the young ones, you'll see in the news that they are the priority but that is not the case when they are in the hospital for treatment especially when they got the severity of the disease. As from what my friend saw and experienced in the hospital I can clearly say that they were not the priority, every government seeks for a bright future of their nation which the old ones can't provide them. That's the sad truth about being an elder.

The thing here is that the government can't save all lives right now, 
the government are doing everything to save everyone but of course we also know that this can't happen because even the Strongest and most technological countries are suffering from dying people.
I have to agree with @FlightyPouch, even if our health workers thrive hard they cannot save all of the people from this virus, and they have to choose which life will impact the most in the society in the future.

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July 06, 2020, 06:54:43 AM
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People do not want to be selfish? There was tons of people all around the world who have gathered as much stuff as they can including toilet papers in order to greatly benefit themselves and sell them at a higher cost. These people basically spent the money they have on toilet paper to sell it at 2x or 3x prices during a pandemic that they thought other people wouldn't be able to buy them, so they were taking advantage of the poor during a potentially world ending crisis.
That's too greedy but I'm sure the authorities are aware about that, in our country, I've seen in the news that there are people who got arrested for doing that. These people are taking advantage of the situation and so the government are hunting them to stop this kind of greedy activities, and as I noticed, grocery stores now are already limiting the purchase per customer especially on the toilet papers and the alcohol.

I am sorry but people are inherently greedy and selfish from the moment they are born, from the day little kid can speak and say "it is my toy you can't play with it!" and we have to teach sharing, to the older people who already have a decent retirement plan so they do not care about the future, we are all selfish in our nature.
The real attitude will come out since we are already talking of survival here, there's a law but if this gets worsen, I'm not sure if people are still afraid to break the law, that's just a worst scenario so hopefully that would not happen.
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July 06, 2020, 10:39:23 PM
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As we are dealing with the pandemic, the virus disease is prone to old citizens they have a weaker immune system than an average person and young adults although we also have a lot of cases of them too but there are more people who ages 40+ in the tallied cases. The sad truth is that some of them are not getting attention from the hospitals, why? because they prioritize a person based on its age, why? because it would be more worthy if you save a productive person over an old and weak person. The government is really doing this for the economy in the future days.

We really have to deal with deaths, it is part of living  Cry

Sad truth, indeed. Maybe the other countries Governments was just being so practical nowadays. Some elderly can no longer contribute to the grow of a country's economy because of being weak and unproductive. Aside from that, most hospitals like here in our country are already full with patients as the covid-19 positive cases arises. That is why older people with age ranging from 60 above are strictly advised to just stay home and those youngsters with age ranging from 0 - 21. These ages were believe are much prone to virus and infections. And to avoid it, just need to follow the safety protocol and Governments guidelines in order to survive. For me, reviving the economy is a must but Lives of people (old and young) are the most important. Stay safe 💕
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July 06, 2020, 11:32:43 PM
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~For me, reviving the economy is a must but Lives of people (old and young) are the most important. Stay safe 💕
This pandemic teaches us many things, including the importance of setting up an emergency fund to deal with difficult situations like this. See, there are so many people who are not lucky, there are those who are laid off, their businesses are decreasing and there are those who are bankrupt, etc. We must be truly grateful if we still have the choice to get money to make ends meet. Don't forget to contribute to those who need it, to help medical workers, or for other social activities, it can be in the form of money, energy, or other efforts.

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