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July 01, 2020, 01:25:34 PM
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The plexiglass dividers at the tables between players are much more effective than those expensive masks and no dividers, that's why they(in casino) have chosen this option.

the bellagio is doing it but i think most of the casinos are requiring masks. i dunno if the dividers are more effective, but they are certainly more inviting. wearing a mask for hours at a time is horrible.

the silver lining if you wear mask+sunglasses+hoodie though is that you certainly won't be giving away any tells. Tongue

All joking aside, I think the way you have dealt with various situations in the past combined with how you are acting now(whether you are checking, raising, taking long/short time before action etc.)  tells much more to the villain about your current situation than your body language. That's why players who are good at live poker are usually good at online poker either.

The importance of the ability to read your opponent visually during a live poker game is greatly exaggerated, in my opinion.

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July 01, 2020, 01:50:34 PM
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why it seems that those other player are not wearing Mask?is this not obligatory for everyone inside casinos?

This must be taking action by the government because this literally against the rules of the government towards casino operators.

apparently it complies with social distancing requirements. las vegas initially limited tables to 4-max and most casinos are still sticking with that. by installing the dividers, the bellagio was approved for 6-max games and masks aren't required in the poker room. that's a pretty big draw for customers. americans hate masks.

Well Social distancing by 1 meter is really effective for not infecting people near us but the spread is there the more they can Bring the Virus in everything near them,I know how irritating wearing mask specially when you are in place in which you are comfortable but i think this must be implemented still for whatever reason they have.

But it looks very decent the way Bellagio put those Divider.

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the dividers are probably pretty effective and i assume they are sanitized whenever a player leaves, but i dunno for sure.
Yeah thats what I am hoping that sanitizing every now and then will put another measure in keeping their players safe.
Its really great that gamblers are practicing social distancing, and they are still wearing their face mask, gloves, and face shields while they are inside the casino because it can keep them away from catching the virus while they are enjoying themselves in playing gambling. But I still recommend gamblers should stay inside their home because it is still unsafe even lockdowns are already lifted in other countries.
actually it is not the people or gamblers who learns this but it was being implemented by the Casino's and they must obey for them to stay playing.

and also look at the photo there are still some players that hardheaded and don't follow wearing their mask.

having 50% or lower players a day/then that would be a great initiative to continue the gambling industry.









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July 02, 2020, 02:24:04 PM
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This should be everybody's business now, any company or industry will not be allowed to open or operate if they do not apply for reopening of their company, they have been given guidelines, protocols and government asked for their own list of protocols if it is does not conform to the protocols they will reject it.
No company can operate because they want to they are given permission based on the study of the authorities.
Yeah, but the shittings is.

The demonstrate/supporter non-wear mask could make a problem, I believe there a few customers who not wearing a mask and when the security of a business operator suggest him to wear a mask he refused it. When he got rejected by the business owner he will make a problem, and the customer will act like the victim. The problem on America only that's I think from watching a few news.

That would definitely be a potential problem that needs to be checked. Because obviously most of the casino goers are the monied class and they expect great service to be given to them and they have a different attitude somewhat different from the normie gamblers. Possibly entitled and narcissistic, they will throw at you the victim card once you have not pampered them even though they are violating health protocols.
While you bring some good points since those measures are dictated by the government then the casino will be risking to be fined or to be closed down by allowing such player to play without a mask and over the long run the risk is simply not worth it, so I think most casinos will choose to follow the current restrictions and ask that person to leave their establishment, most likely this means they will lose a costumer but that is better than the alternative of losing all their business.

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July 03, 2020, 04:08:06 AM
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Looking at the Pict,there are still some tables that is not occupied so i assume that there are a little demand In playing to real casino?

since they limit 6 pax per table yet there are still vacant seats and tables.

if this is true then People are still afraid going/playing in Casino live instead they choose online gaming.

Better for them to Be safer,because gambling can wait .

Perhaps, people are still afraid to go to that physical casino because they are in this pandemic, which they don't know when the pandemic will end. Yes, the table still empty, but perhaps, in the next days, many people will come to that place and play some games. Or probably, the players need to wait for their schedule to play the games because I think the casino will not let all people come together to their place.

But having a schedule for every gambler who wants to come to the physical casino will be a good idea to limit the number of people who invite to the casino. That can prevent from spreading of the virus, which still out there.

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July 03, 2020, 05:17:11 AM
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There is no need in such masks, as long it is arranged as in the pictures in this thread. The plexiglass dividers at the tables between players are much more effective than those expensive masks and no dividers, that's why they(in casino) have chosen this option.
Too much stuff to do compared to playing online poker, IMO. Why bother even stepping out just to play poker and ease your gambling stress when you can stay at home and play on your device?

In my opinion, using masks and glasses here is a waste of resources which need to be allocated to the healthcare system than at casinos. People dont seem to be getting their priorities straight here. We have online casinos just for this purpose and they are booming in their business as long as the cash flow is continuing to the players pockets from salaries.

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July 03, 2020, 11:59:38 AM
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There is no need in such masks, as long it is arranged as in the pictures in this thread. The plexiglass dividers at the tables between players are much more effective than those expensive masks and no dividers, that's why they(in casino) have chosen this option.
Too much stuff to do compared to playing online poker, IMO. Why bother even stepping out just to play poker and ease your gambling stress when you can stay at home and play on your device?

In my opinion, using masks and glasses here is a waste of resources which need to be allocated to the healthcare system than at casinos. People dont seem to be getting their priorities straight here. We have online casinos just for this purpose and they are booming in their business as long as the cash flow is continuing to the players pockets from salaries.

As someone who loves playing online poker, I absolutely agree with you! I'm having so much fun with online tournaments that I simply can't imagine, how can I have more? Smiley

For reals, with those viruses around (and I heard there might be deadlier ones in the future), the land-based casinos, are becoming a thing of the past.

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July 03, 2020, 12:41:23 PM
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There is no need in such masks, as long it is arranged as in the pictures in this thread. The plexiglass dividers at the tables between players are much more effective than those expensive masks and no dividers, that's why they(in casino) have chosen this option.
Too much stuff to do compared to playing online poker, IMO. Why bother even stepping out just to play poker and ease your gambling stress when you can stay at home and play on your device?

In my opinion, using masks and glasses here is a waste of resources which need to be allocated to the healthcare system than at casinos. People dont seem to be getting their priorities straight here. We have online casinos just for this purpose and they are booming in their business as long as the cash flow is continuing to the players pockets from salaries.

As someone who loves playing online poker, I absolutely agree with you! I'm having so much fun with online tournaments that I simply can't imagine, how can I have more? Smiley

For reals, with those viruses around (and I heard there might be deadlier ones in the future), the land-based casinos, are becoming a thing of the past.

for us that already been playing online yes but what about to some that never tried online gambling . that will always be thier reason on why they wont bother playing online but if not  its fine i dont have a problem with that but  as long as they wont go outside and risking thier selve or potentially spreading the virus if they carried it already  .

  the second virus can lead to every country to stricken thier measures and wont totally allow offline casinos to operate   .
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July 03, 2020, 02:06:31 PM
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There is no need in such masks, as long it is arranged as in the pictures in this thread. The plexiglass dividers at the tables between players are much more effective than those expensive masks and no dividers, that's why they(in casino) have chosen this option.
Too much stuff to do compared to playing online poker, IMO. Why bother even stepping out just to play poker and ease your gambling stress when you can stay at home and play on your device?

In my opinion, using masks and glasses here is a waste of resources which need to be allocated to the healthcare system than at casinos. People dont seem to be getting their priorities straight here. We have online casinos just for this purpose and they are booming in their business as long as the cash flow is continuing to the players pockets from salaries.

As someone who loves playing online poker, I absolutely agree with you! I'm having so much fun with online tournaments that I simply can't imagine, how can I have more? Smiley

For reals, with those viruses around (and I heard there might be deadlier ones in the future), the land-based casinos, are becoming a thing of the past.

for us that already been playing online yes but what about to some that never tried online gambling . that will always be thier reason on why they wont bother playing online but if not  its fine i dont have a problem with that but  as long as they wont go outside and risking thier selve or potentially spreading the virus if they carried it already  .

  the second virus can lead to every country to stricken thier measures and wont totally allow offline casinos to operate   .

I will argue on it as if anyone has not played online gambling, why would he not try it ? Its not that hard to play poker and other gambling games online ? There is no point in insisting to go to physical casino when it can lead to causing infection of covid19. As we all know that precaution is better and hence stay at home and avoid the casinos for few more months.
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July 03, 2020, 02:14:27 PM
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Casinos are not interested in face-to-face tournaments, it is the great reality that this industry hides, casinos serve as a concentration center, for online casinos that show their brand.

It is more profitable to have a cash ring generating rake, than a guy who sits for 8 hours a day to play poker, except for some traditional tournaments.

The industry in any case is complex because it is not just paying a buyin, since it includes hotel meals, etc.

Any physical casino in the world is with a skin or has money in an online casino, they are its subsidiaries to keep people in constant play, to go from one click to presence in a casino.

Has this industry been affected? Yes, but perhaps it is in those markets where the collateral effect has been suffered the most by the employees, since the casinos will be able to reactivate quickly, the casino is a company that has hotels, restaurants, travel agencies, in reality it is not just a room with slot machines, blackjack or poker tables.

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July 03, 2020, 03:12:42 PM
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Do you think this will bring a huge development or improvement in a Gambling Industry? Will poker be the only safest option to play gambling right now?
I don't think so. Resuming gambling operation will not change that way it was before. In fact, the industry is still recovering from their loses due to pandemic and still at the adjustment phase transitioning to "New Normal" protocol that was imposed.

Poker? Yes, maybe? As long as they maintain following safety measure while playing then there is nothing wrong.

It may have something difference when gambling operation resume again. Since we all know that gambling takes a large part in tax. That is the reason why gambling wants to continue even there is still a in pandemic. The government wants to collect tax right now in order to sustain the economy but we know how it is risky.

But then, poker games is not good to play in physical casino why? we can`t avoid having contact with other players. Just imagine how poker played. Players are playing face to face. Well, it may be good if the number of players in table will be deducted and followed the safety measures.

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Do you think this will bring a huge development or improvement in a Gambling Industry? Will poker be the only safest option to play gambling right now?
I don't think so. Resuming gambling operation will not change that way it was before. In fact, the industry is still recovering from their loses due to pandemic and still at the adjustment phase transitioning to "New Normal" protocol that was imposed.

Poker? Yes, maybe? As long as they maintain following safety measure while playing then there is nothing wrong.

It may have something difference when gambling operation resume again. Since we all know that gambling takes a large part in tax. That is the reason why gambling wants to continue even there is still a in pandemic. The government wants to collect tax right now in order to sustain the economy but we know how it is risky.

But then, poker games is not good to play in physical casino why? we can`t avoid having contact with other players. Just imagine how poker played. Players are playing face to face. Well, it may be good if the number of players in table will be deducted and followed the safety measures.

So this means that physical casino wants to open and generate revenue so that they can give taxes to the government. How can government ask for the taxes when they themselves asked the casino business to be shutdown in the pandemic. The government should generate taxes from some other sources and do not ask those business to give taxes which are currently closed.
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July 04, 2020, 09:26:11 AM
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So this means that physical casino wants to open and generate revenue so that they can give taxes to the government. How can government ask for the taxes when they themselves asked the casino business to be shutdown in the pandemic. The government should generate taxes from some other sources and do not ask those business to give taxes which are currently closed.
No, you are missing the point. Don't focus on taxes alone, there are so many reasons why they will reopen. Physical Casino is also a business, they have many employees to provide salary and continue paying other expenses even in lockdown. They have no other choice but to open because if they don't, it will turn into bankruptcy.



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July 04, 2020, 01:07:41 PM
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So this means that physical casino wants to open and generate revenue so that they can give taxes to the government. How can government ask for the taxes when they themselves asked the casino business to be shutdown in the pandemic. The government should generate taxes from some other sources and do not ask those business to give taxes which are currently closed.
No, you are missing the point. Don't focus on taxes alone, there are so many reasons why they will reopen. Physical Casino is also a business, they have many employees to provide salary and continue paying other expenses even in lockdown. They have no other choice but to open because if they don't, it will turn into bankruptcy.

   I agree with you Angrybirdy, it's not just taxes and salaries, bills have to be paid, there's electricity, maintenance. They can't
pay for anything if they don't work.
   JohnBitCo government could save all businesses if they wanted to. Big corporations would suffer, but they have money they
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July 04, 2020, 01:25:50 PM
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So this means that physical casino wants to open and generate revenue so that they can give taxes to the government. How can government ask for the taxes when they themselves asked the casino business to be shutdown in the pandemic. The government should generate taxes from some other sources and do not ask those business to give taxes which are currently closed.
No, you are missing the point. Don't focus on taxes alone, there are so many reasons why they will reopen. Physical Casino is also a business, they have many employees to provide salary and continue paying other expenses even in lockdown. They have no other choice but to open because if they don't, it will turn into bankruptcy.

   I agree with you Angrybirdy, it's not just taxes and salaries, bills have to be paid, there's electricity, maintenance. They can't
pay for anything if they don't work.
But there are only limited chance for them to work because many company had already declared closure or lay off.
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   JohnBitCo government could save all businesses if they wanted to. Big corporations would suffer, but they have money they
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every day!
Seriously?How can the government obtain letting all businesses ?as if the government will sustain all the employee under their expenses?you are not listening here lol.









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July 04, 2020, 07:00:18 PM
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So this means that physical casino wants to open and generate revenue so that they can give taxes to the government. How can government ask for the taxes when they themselves asked the casino business to be shutdown in the pandemic. The government should generate taxes from some other sources and do not ask those business to give taxes which are currently closed.
No, you are missing the point. Don't focus on taxes alone, there are so many reasons why they will reopen. Physical Casino is also a business, they have many employees to provide salary and continue paying other expenses even in lockdown. They have no other choice but to open because if they don't, it will turn into bankruptcy.

   I agree with you Angrybirdy, it's not just taxes and salaries, bills have to be paid, there's electricity, maintenance. They can't
pay for anything if they don't work.
But there are only limited chance for them to work because many company had already declared closure or lay off.
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  JohnBitCo government could save all businesses if they wanted to. Big corporations would suffer, but they have money they
accumulated over the years. But we have a case where we are paying for everything and some corporations are getting richer
every day!
Seriously?How can the government obtain letting all businesses ?as if the government will sustain all the employee under their expenses?you are not listening here lol.

It is not possible for the government to take the responsibility of everyone. They have limited funds and they can't feed everyone. We are in a pandemic and everyone will have to suffer in some way or the other.  Government and business people should think of a situation which is beneficial for everyone and at he same time chances of spread of covid19 remains less.

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July 05, 2020, 05:30:13 AM
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It is not possible for the government to take the responsibility of everyone. They have limited funds and they can't feed everyone. We are in a pandemic and everyone will have to suffer in some way or the other.  Government and business people should think of a situation which is beneficial for everyone and at he same time chances of spread of covid19 remains less.

That's the reason why they are now opening little by little even if the cases aren't flattening yet, the economy needs to survive for the people to survive as well. We cannot blame casino owners for this as they have many employees who needs to work to earn.

Improved proper sanitation could help and I see, most of the business has already implemented this, but it should not just the business that needs to follow the protocol. Each gambler should also abide by following strict social distancing and should wear facemasks.
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July 05, 2020, 05:31:12 AM
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So this means that physical casino wants to open and generate revenue so that they can give taxes to the government. How can government ask for the taxes when they themselves asked the casino business to be shutdown in the pandemic. The government should generate taxes from some other sources and do not ask those business to give taxes which are currently closed.
No, you are missing the point. Don't focus on taxes alone, there are so many reasons why they will reopen. Physical Casino is also a business, they have many employees to provide salary and continue paying other expenses even in lockdown. They have no other choice but to open because if they don't, it will turn into bankruptcy.

Yes, this is a difficult step to pay the employees in the lockdown when there is no business but some business like casino are very profitable ones. The casino owners have gathered a lot of money over the last few years or months so if they could spend some portion of it on their loyal employees that would not hurt them much.
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Regarding to adopting the new normal, physical casinos are now very strict. Those who want to gamble will have to wait before the first one to gamble run out of money and those who don't want to play but wanted to stay on the casino will be sent to outside and won't be able to go inside unless they want to gamble. Obvious choice for physical casinos is to have a feature whwre gamblers can also gamble virtually.
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July 06, 2020, 04:20:48 PM
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There is no need in such masks, as long it is arranged as in the pictures in this thread. The plexiglass dividers at the tables between players are much more effective than those expensive masks and no dividers, that's why they(in casino) have chosen this option.
Too much stuff to do compared to playing online poker, IMO. Why bother even stepping out just to play poker and ease your gambling stress when you can stay at home and play on your device?

In my opinion, using masks and glasses here is a waste of resources which need to be allocated to the healthcare system than at casinos. People dont seem to be getting their priorities straight here. We have online casinos just for this purpose and they are booming in their business as long as the cash flow is continuing to the players pockets from salaries.
At the end of the day it is a matter of preference, many people prefer to play in live casinos because the amount of information you can get out of your opponent is many times great than what you can get online, however deep down I agree with you, this is the moment to try to do as many of our activities online as it is realistically possible and playing poker online can be many times more entertaining as you can play many tables at once and the hands are played faster giving you greater chances of being profitable if you are good at poker.

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July 06, 2020, 09:27:22 PM
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Regarding to adopting the new normal, physical casinos are now very strict. Those who want to gamble will have to wait before the first one to gamble run out of money and those who don't want to play but wanted to stay on the casino will be sent to outside and won't be able to go inside unless they want to gamble. Obvious choice for physical casinos is to have a feature whwre gamblers can also gamble virtually.
definitely, pandemic accelerated this process for many businnes, moving to digital is now inevitable.
probably all big casinos will end up entering this market too at some point.

thismay not be the last pandemic, we never know.

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