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June 23, 2020, 02:17:28 PM
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This just popped out of my TG notification:



So this guy has two Telegram accounts as what you've seen in the picture above.

Telegram usernames:

Eвгeний Heдeльcкий: username not visible
Evgeniy Nedelskiy: @Texac1985

Can the mods do something with this guy who is selling is Hero account for $300? Thanks!

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June 23, 2020, 02:32:01 PM
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Account sales are not moderated by the admins. They are not against the rules, but people don't really like to see that sort of thing here.
The offer might be legit or a scam attempt. Anyone can post a picture of any account profile and say that it is up for sale. He might or might not be the owner of that account. The only way to know for sure is to get him to PM you from the account to make sure he has account access. In that case you have proof that whoever has access to that account is trying to sell it. The account wont get banned but it will probably be tagged by DTs.

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June 23, 2020, 02:37:54 PM
Last edit: June 23, 2020, 02:54:45 PM by dkbit98
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Telegram is a place full of scammers, but in this case we can see his email and that he was logged in bitcointalk forum, so he could be selling his account.

This is how rest of us see his profile with hidden email:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=231174

We do have him also in case of merit abuse also with his other account nedjuly:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195644.msg53267997#msg53267997

and maybe even ban evasion for account lasika:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1212676




https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?id=1212676

He is connected with one more banned accunt skelarned
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1009774

Same telegram account used for Lasika and skelarned
Telegram username: @skelarned

1. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1--QPEgiAvsNI9w9qfuNig4qBlzKcuajSsFvRZrku3II/edit#gid=1498115377
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5070336.msg48015357#msg48015357


All this is however not enough for tagging him (yet), or is it?

PS
Maybe move this topic to Reputation.

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June 23, 2020, 02:38:18 PM
Last edit: June 23, 2020, 03:02:51 PM by stompix
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The mods will do nothing, account sales are not forbidden.

As Pmalek ( with better typing speed) said there is no proof he is the actual owner, but there are other possibilities it can also be a scam by someone pretending to have an account or it might be somebody who is trying to frame the real user by claiming he is going to sell it in order to have him tagged as revenge for god knows what.
No DT member would normally tag it just with this.

LE:
Changed my mind after the post where the account post his telegram details, that would be pretty much impossible to fake (I guess?) so right now it seems likely the real user is indeed trying to sell it.

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June 23, 2020, 02:45:35 PM
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Account sales are not moderated by the admins. They are not against the rules, but people don't really like to see that sort of thing here.
The offer might be legit or a scam attempt. Anyone can post a picture of any account profile and say that it is up for sale. He might or might not be the owner of that account. The only way to know for sure is to get him to PM you from the account to make sure he has account access. In that case you have proof that whoever has access to that account is trying to sell it. The account wont get banned but it will probably be tagged by DTs.

Okay thank you for clarifying that account selling is not against the rules as you said.

I would rather not bother sending him a DM though, but I'm just alerting about this account selling activity.  

Because I thought that most of the accounts that are being sold and were used by others instead of the original owner were having red flags. Correct me if I'm wrong though.  

Telegram is a place full of scammers, but in this case we can see his email and that he was logged in bitcointalk forum, so he could be selling his account.

This is how rest of us see his profile with hidden email:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=231174

We do have him also in case of merit abuse also with his other account nedjuly:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195644.msg53267997#msg53267997

and maybe even ban evasion for account lasika:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1212676




https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?id=1212676

All this is however not enough for tagging him (yet).

Okay so the Telegram account who have declared the sale is the real owner himself.

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June 23, 2020, 02:48:37 PM
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Account sales are not moderated by the admins. They are not against the rules, but people don't really like to see that sort of thing here.
The offer might be legit or a scam attempt. Anyone can post a picture of any account profile and say that it is up for sale. He might or might not be the owner of that account. The only way to know for sure is to get him to PM you from the account to make sure he has account access. In that case you have proof that whoever has access to that account is trying to sell it. The account wont get banned but it will probably be tagged by DTs.
But from the screenshot you can clearly see he is viewing his profile which he is logged in (The email address is hidden if it was someone else viewing the profile)

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June 23, 2020, 02:52:39 PM
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there is no proof he is the actual owner

Telegram is a place full of scammers, but in this case we can see his email and that he was logged in bitcointalk forum, so he could be selling his account.

But from the screenshot you can clearly see he is viewing his profile which he is logged in (The email address is hidden if it was someone else viewing the profile)

Yeah the e-mail address is a dead giveaway. There is still a slight possibility that someone could fake a screenshot like that so I'm not going to red-trust just yet unless the account changes hands (password/e-mail change).
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The mods will do nothing, account sales are not forbidden.

As Pmalek ( with better typing speed) said there is no proof he is the actual owner, but there are other possibilities it can also be a scam by someone pretending to have an account or it might be somebody who is trying to frame the real user by claiming he is going to sell it in order to have him tagged as revenge for god knows what.
No DT member would normally tag it just with this.

Shouldn't this thread be in the "Reputation/Scam-Accusation" board? I doubt "Meta" is the right place.



I just found Texac posting his Telegram handle several times, e.g. here:

@Texac1985

Archive: http://archive.is/z0kGF

Or here:

Telegram Username: @Texac1985

Archive: http://archive.is/FlXm2



Okay so the Telegram account who have declared the sale is the real owner himself.

It looks like its Texac selling his own account, but I am not an expert when it comes to Telegram.

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Who are those still buying Btt accounts? What are they using it for? Bounties?

Yes, people are buying accounts to cheat/multireg in well-paying bounty campaigns. Due the Merit-restrictions ranking up new accounts gets harder and people are looking out for old inactive accounts. Not long a ago, a dude was busted who owened more than 50 accounts.

For more information just check this thread: A Large Farm of accounts cheating on Sig. Campaigns [HUGE UPDATE! 04/28/2020]

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June 23, 2020, 03:17:22 PM
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Who are those still buying Btt accounts? What are they using it for? Bounties?
After the merit system launched most of the newbies struggle to rank up. And if they get a high ranked account with a flexible price then why they will miss the chance? but today or tomorrow most of the sold accounts caught by someone here. And yes, the main motive of buying btalk account is earning money from this forum by doing bounty or signature campaign. It could be changed to do scam a huge amount.


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It looks like its Texac selling his own account, but I am not an expert when it comes to Telegram.

The telegram account may be owned by Texac but what's the proof that Texac1985 has sent the PM on telegram? How can you believe OP's words? This may be true but you can never be sure. A video of the chat and username may prove although.
It can be an attempt to destroy Texac reputation or red tag the account too.
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June 23, 2020, 03:51:25 PM
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It looks like its Texac selling his own account, but I am not an expert when it comes to Telegram.

The telegram account may be owned by Texac but what's the proof that Texac1985 has sent the PM on telegram? How can you believe OP's words? This may be true but you can never be sure. A video of the chat and username may prove although.
It can be an attempt to destroy Texac reputation or red tag the account too.

It's not through DM, but in a Telegram group of Lydian Lion Global that popped out the message.

You can check the latest message yourself here (unless if he deletes it himself): https://t.me/LydianLionCommunity

And here's a screenshot which includes the TG group name:



I didn't intend to destroy his rep though, but I was just thinking of whoever have bought his account may do something fishy later on and everyone would think that the original owner himself might be responsible for it.

The mods will do nothing, account sales are not forbidden.

As Pmalek ( with better typing speed) said there is no proof he is the actual owner, but there are other possibilities it can also be a scam by someone pretending to have an account or it might be somebody who is trying to frame the real user by claiming he is going to sell it in order to have him tagged as revenge for god knows what.
No DT member would normally tag it just with this.

Shouldn't this thread be in the "Reputation/Scam-Accusation" board? I doubt "Meta" is the right place.



I just found Texac posting his Telegram handle several times, e.g. here:

@Texac1985

Archive: http://archive.is/z0kGF

Or here:

Telegram Username: @Texac1985

Archive: http://archive.is/FlXm2



Okay so the Telegram account who have declared the sale is the real owner himself.

It looks like its Texac selling his own account, but I am not an expert when it comes to Telegram.


Okay I would support it if the mods want to move it to an appropriate section. Thank you.

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June 23, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
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Unfortunately there is no proof that he indeed is in possession of the account.

The next time when bringing something like this up, make sure to gain some proof that he really is in control of the account (e.g. by demanding a PM from this account).
With solid proof, this acc is going to receive negative trust ratings.

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June 23, 2020, 04:06:15 PM
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Unfortunately there is no proof that he indeed is in possession of the account.

The next time when bringing something like this up, make sure to gain some proof that he really is in control of the account (e.g. by demanding a PM from this account).
With solid proof, this acc is going to receive negative trust ratings.

Okay I understand your point. But if you see the screenshot I've shared and dkbit98's own screenshot, there's a small difference. The one I've shared had his email visible, while dkbit98's screenshot has hidden email.

I'm only alarmed because I thought that account selling is not allowed (but it was already clarified and explained earlier by Pmalek). That's it and I understand now.

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June 23, 2020, 04:07:00 PM
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1. Moderators can easily see that he owns that account with his exposed email address.
2. He used same telegram account @Texac1985 for sending message in telegram about selling.
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It does show that owner of that bitcointalk account Texac and telegram account @Texac1985 are owned by the same person.

Reading above posts helps.
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Okay I understand your point. But if you see the screenshot I've shared and dkbit98's own screenshot, there's a small difference. The one I've shared had his email visible, while dkbit98's screenshot has hidden email.

That's true, but he could have manipulated the screenshot to create the impression that he is in possession of the account.
You (and we) simply can not be sure. He might be just a scammer without any account.

A message however, would unmistakably prove it.

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June 23, 2020, 04:32:59 PM
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Who are those still buying Btt accounts? What are they using it for? Bounties?

Bounties and scams.

I have been offered 0.5 btc for this account.

I would suspect the buyer would try to do escrows for a while and then get a large escrow for 5 or more btc.  Then run.


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The evidence is pointing more and more towards the original owner of the account and that he is trying to sell it. However it is still inconclusive. The visible email could be a proof that whoever has the login details to the account made that screenshot while logged in to his account. But there is also a small chance that it could have been photoshopped where someone is trying to frame the guy for something. I think a simple edit with Photoshop could achieve similar results. Having said that, I don't think that is the case here considering the previous merit abuse, and ban evasion of the account user.     

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The evidence is pointing more and more towards the original owner of the account and that he is trying to sell it. However it is still inconclusive. The visible email could be a proof that whoever has the login details to the account made that screenshot while logged in to his account. But there is also a small chance that it could have been photoshopped where someone is trying to frame the guy for something. I think a simple edit with Photoshop could achieve similar results. Having said that, I don't think that is the case here considering the previous merit abuse, and ban evasion of the account user.      

Without solid proof. Giving him a red trust is not the clever decision. It might be a double edge sword once the owner of the account denied that allegation and also if the telegram owner release a statement that he not the real owner. Although we can tag him for ban evasion and merit abused if ever the proof above will be verified that he is connected to a banned member here.

A message in the forum might be a solid proof to verify that he is in possession for that account.



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June 24, 2020, 04:03:12 PM
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The case is quite complicated to me. To be honest I strongly believe this account has placed for sell as per provided all evidence on the post/reply. But since telegram become heaven for scammers and its possible to edit image so red tag shouldn't leave right now IMO. This would be advantage for seller but who know the real story. The only possible to detect correctly by verify email address which will need moderators help. But since account sales isn't prohibited according to forum rules we can't expect help from moderators about this case. So it's better to leave neutral feedback which has left already by multiple DT members. I am trying to communicate seller on telegram from seller profile if really account placed for sell and for how much. But still haven't got any answer. I will update here if found anything else or reply from seller.

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