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July 13, 2020, 02:04:54 PM
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The downfall of COVID-19 is already started, It is not going to hit again with that much strength as we have seen already. I have heard that people also donating blood? I think that is good we have more recoveries then the infected people will fall.

For vaccine I do not think it is going to happen, It will stay and will only vanish when everyone gets infected and get recovered maybe. It is getting down already though.

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While you are making a point but chances are that you may not be correct. You see from the trends of the spread of this virus which started in Wuhan and spread accross the world, it hit countries like itlay and USA hard.

what surprise me was this; i watched yesterday on the news how the number of covid-19 infected people are rising in America.

How soon will this pandemic live the shores of the great country ;USA?



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In case another wave of covid-19 will strike us again, I guess we already know how to deal with such strange situation and so the Government too, in handling the country's economy. I just hope its not that worst so we won't suffer too much.

Well, that is well articulated and put forward. The thing is this if we claim we already know how to deal with covid-19, this question will rise in our mind.
how come is malaria still killing people? how come is cholera still killing people? how come is other diseases still killing people?

We all need to take care of our hiegene and do what we can do not to be affected. if we don't then the outcome of our action will be bad...

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July 13, 2020, 06:36:14 PM
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It is not really a curve that would get flatten more like get more used to it by now type of situation. We are already at a level "we do lose fewer people every day" type of situation where people are used to losing people to covid and started to expect that is something expectable.

I think the point here is really that covid will become part of our life and since there is so many people infected everyday and very few dying, I think people will start to look at it like it is not a big deal anymore. Of course that is a wrong thing to think because it is still a very important thing but we are doing much better (maybe except USA) than we used to thanks to prevention like masks, but that does't mean that we should just go back to how things were and suddenly be better, that won't happen.

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July 13, 2020, 08:56:44 PM
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The downfall of COVID-19 is already started, It is not going to hit again with that much strength as we have seen already. I have heard that people also donating blood? I think that is good we have more recoveries then the infected people will fall.

For vaccine I do not think it is going to happen, It will stay and will only vanish when everyone gets infected and get recovered maybe. It is getting down already though.

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It is logically impossible to test every citizen and treat them and hence to say that the only solution is to test everyone and treat them is really impossible practically.

I think if only people take proper measures and operate their businesses and people who go to jobs are made to sanitize themselves and wear a permanent mask then the severity of this situation can be reduced to a large extent because it is not possible to close all the business and sit at home for an year as people will die of starvation already in such a long time.

I think the virus might spread even more viciously if right measures are not adopted in the required time frame.
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July 13, 2020, 09:07:56 PM
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The curve is not going to flatten, until we have a working vaccine against the Coronavirus. Because many of the countries, where the lockdown was lifted are facing a second wave of infections now. Examples are the United States, India, Iran and Israel. So IMO, it is not going to get better unless the vaccine is available in the market. And unfortunately, the vaccine is still in trials and it may take at least 6 months more, to mass produce and distribute it to the general public.
That is absolutely true but I heard that antibodies are developed from patients that recover from corona virus and those are vital for the survival and though a recent news said that those anti-bodies can only safeguard you for a couple months only but at least you are safe during that time.

The biggest problem is if you life the lockdown you will have the hike in the corona patients while if you implement lockdown the majority of the poor population will suffer and suffocate with no work and no money to survive. I think a smart decision is required here which might be like lockdown certain parts of the country or city and allow some parts to operate and then do vice-versa.
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July 13, 2020, 09:26:49 PM
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The biggest problem is if you life the lockdown you will have the hike in the corona patients while if you implement lockdown the majority of the poor population will suffer and suffocate with no work and no money to survive. I think a smart decision is required here which might be like lockdown certain parts of the country or city and allow some parts to operate and then do vice-versa.
From the medical side, lockdown provides a good opportunity to prevent the virus from spreading, but from an economic standpoint, this is very difficult, many companies are complaining because their income is declining, even many are laying off employees, really a difficult situation right?
That is why most governments apply new normal. Adapt new normal by implementing strict health protocols, wearing masks, gloves, physical distancing, etc. This will have a good effect if people and countries work together to obey the rules, otherwise, COVID 19 will spread even more.
Remember, new normal does not mean we are free to do anything, we must really realize this. Let's follow the health protocol well if there is no important need then stay at home.

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July 14, 2020, 04:40:33 AM
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During the pandemic outbreak, most of the country and their economy are falling right now because some of the business are close just temporarily because they want to avoid this kind of virus but still by the time goes by after almost two to three months one of the problems of the people today is the money because they want to the economy back they need to open up their businesses again but still some of the countries right now are going to be COVID free which is a piece of good news recently there is an article release that one of the countries which are already a COVID free now is Thailand and one of the countries does not have the flattening the curve is the Philippines because they know right now are having the second wave of the pandemic outbreak which is not good news they need to make changes on their country to fight this outbreak that is destroying a lot of lives.

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July 14, 2020, 05:07:41 AM
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The downfall of COVID-19 is already started, It is not going to hit again with that much strength as we have seen already. I have heard that people also donating blood? I think that is good we have more recoveries then the infected people will fall.

For vaccine I do not think it is going to happen, It will stay and will only vanish when everyone gets infected and get recovered maybe. It is getting down already though.

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It is logically impossible to test every citizen and treat them and hence to say that the only solution is to test everyone and treat them is really impossible practically.

I think if only people take proper measures and operate their businesses and people who go to jobs are made to sanitize themselves and wear a permanent mask then the severity of this situation can be reduced to a large extent because it is not possible to close all the business and sit at home for an year as people will die of starvation already in such a long time.

I think the virus might spread even more viciously if right measures are not adopted in the required time frame.

That's the only solution for now, in every approach or measures, it's always necessary that the prevention will come first than the cure.
However, some countries already have a high cases, but it's their fault as they don't take the covid-19 seriously during the early days, so they are suffering now, but despite of that, I am sure they'll be able to survive and correct the mistakes so the spread will be controlled and the economy will recover.

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July 14, 2020, 10:15:39 AM
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The downfall of COVID-19 is already started, It is not going to hit again with that much strength as we have seen already. I have heard that people also donating blood? I think that is good we have more recoveries then the infected people will fall.

For vaccine I do not think it is going to happen, It will stay and will only vanish when everyone gets infected and get recovered maybe. It is getting down already though.

TEX-LXRY

I don't know where you have read this, but number of positive cases is increasing day by day. Look at the USA, they are reaching every day a new ATH...
In Belgium, where I live, number of cases is also again going up slightly.
I think the only way forward will be a vaccine, but this will take a while.



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July 14, 2020, 02:13:23 PM
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I agree with you that without adequate vaccines the virus can never be completely controlled Most of the countries in the world are trying to develop a vaccine to cure the virus but so far no one has been able to reap the benefits. However Russia has begun to develop new vaccines No one knows exactly how long it will take to make it Without the vaccine the virus has receded somewhat but is re-emerging.

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July 14, 2020, 02:44:51 PM
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I don't know where you have read this, but number of positive cases is increasing day by day. Look at the USA, they are reaching every day a new ATH...
While many has being tested the numbers of cases are really increasing, the more test to be process the numbers of possible infected
patients to count in.

In Belgium, where I live, number of cases is also again going up slightly.
That's really possible, there are more cases that being reported and without any vaccine to use it will continue to spread out.

I think the only way forward will be a vaccine, but this will take a while.
It will indeed, the time table for the availabilities of vaccine is still unknown.

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July 14, 2020, 03:00:55 PM
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It would flatten more so in the U.S. if people would just start wearing their damn masks and practice social distancing. Nobody likes to wear these masks or to be "told what to do".  I don't like living this way either.  Just go with what science says, it's that simple.

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Many negative impacts occur due to COVID-19, and fortunately COVID-19 curve is flattening. So economic recovery is possible,
slowly offices and businesses reopened. It is expected that the economy can rise, but if there is a surge in COVID-19 again.
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July 14, 2020, 09:28:06 PM
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Many negative impacts occur due to COVID-19, and fortunately COVID-19 curve is flattening. So economic recovery is possible,
slowly offices and businesses reopened. It is expected that the economy can rise, but if there is a surge in COVID-19 again.
The global economy will be increasingly destroyed, could cause hunger and poverty everywhere. We really have to do something
so that the COVID-19 spike does not happen again, for example by running a health protocol.
Some developing countries were not able to go for a lockdown, some of them kept doing their businesses despite that there is a spread of the Covid-19. This is what happens there is a lack of support from the government. This is the same thing with developed countries now, everyone is going to their business, we can’t stay indoors forever or our economy will be dead before we know it.

So, there is really nothing to do apart from wearing our masks and trying to stay clear from the virus while we do our jobs by maintain a distance from people. Today another exciting new about covid19 vaccine is, Russia is going to release their vaccine by August 10th to 12th. They believe it will get ready by that time. So, it seems the actual time for covid19 curve to fall down.
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July 15, 2020, 02:33:59 AM
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Many negative impacts occur due to COVID-19, and fortunately COVID-19 curve is flattening. So economic recovery is possible,
after every fall there is always a stand up,so basically the economy will recover then question is How long will it take to make the recovery process finally happen?
anyway we are here to wait and look what possibilities may occur in sooner time.
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slowly offices and businesses reopened. It is expected that the economy can rise, but if there is a surge in COVID-19 again.
Offices are opening but fulling other employees as cutting the cost,so this is not really helping the economy instead it only proves the world is falling now.
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The global economy will be increasingly destroyed, could cause hunger and poverty everywhere. We really have to do something
so that the COVID-19 spike does not happen again, for example by running a health protocol.
If people don't go with the government now?for sure another surging of Covid19 will happen and this time it will be very destructive and damage the world.
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In my opinion,I don't want Covid-19 will  come again in a dream too.Already create a massive losses of people,economy and many more things.Such a horrible situation we are all going through.In my country it has poor economy  even 2008.Now a days this pandemic takes too long time . people are in dangerous situation going through month to month .They are moving one city to another for their lives and livelihood .Increased  the rate of jobless,homeless,uneducated.But the peeked of light give us the good news. vaccine will be come soon.

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The Covid19 Curve is Flattening


Now a month and a half latter we see that curve did not really started flattering at end of June. It seems it is flattering now in start of August. We are having about 250k new infected a day and it does not look like there will be more in upcoming weeks. Back in 23th June there were almost half less daily infected.
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It has been about three months that the global economy was hard hit with disruption that had not been experience in a long time.
Even the 1929 economic depression does not have negative impacts as the covid-19 economic impact.

Some of the effects of the Covid-19 affected both individuals and businesses. To individuals here are the effects;
1.Loss of livelihood as a result of loss of jobs.
2.Loss of lives. Those that died as a result of the Covid-19 infection.
3.Social Distance. There is a ban on freedom of movement.
4.Threat of everyone to everyone.

To businesses, some went bankrupt even some governments had to run to the UN and IMF for aids.
Most economies are re-opening and businesses are now operating partially.

The question is this; what will happened to the global economy if there is a spike in the spread of covid19 again ?

actually the curva does not guarantee the existence of data that can be accurate, because sampling in some countries may be uneven because the presence of swab devices is not yet fully available easily or the results obtained are quite long because laboratory tests are still rare. individuals can not do their own test results because they are expensive, other than carried out by state institutions that do have these facilities. if the test is quite evenly distributed then there will definitely be a worrying surge.

what is feared at the moment is a subsequent pandemic or it can be called a second stage pandemic. obviously there will be more going on and the already difficult situation of the country due to the concentration of this problem will increase again. not yet the funds that have to be spent will increase which must be distributed as assistance to those directly affected by their daily needs.
but the state cannot receive the proceeds from the community tax because factories and many businesses that have been contributing funds from taxes cannot be operational.
then it is not an alternative if it is prolonged so many countries will ask for help from countries whose economies are still surviving or from the IMF to be able to provide debt.

there is no other way that vaccines and drugs must be obtained immediately to immediately break the chain of prolonged transmission. because so far what has been done is to reduce direct contact from the sick to the healthy so that transmission does not occur, not to cut off transmission.
because all forms of handling so far, such as keeping distance, wearing masks, not gathering and staying at home have been done and do not make transmission stop.
the good news is that a vaccine has been found and is already in clinical stages in humans so that if it is successful and there are no side effects it can be used and reproduced.

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The Covid19 Curve is Flattening


Now a month and a half latter we see that curve did not really started flattering at end of June. It seems it is flattering now in start of August. We are having about 250k new infected a day and it does not look like there will be more in upcoming weeks. Back in 23th June there were almost half less daily infected.

I dont know if this one would be effective but lets hope that it would be successful.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/russia-gears-up-for-mass-vaccination-against-coronavirus.html
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1315348/russia-preparing-mass-vaccination-against-coronavirus-for-october

we are all hoping for this thing.

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Now a month and a half latter we see that curve did not really started flattering at end of June. It seems it is flattering now in start of August. We are having about 250k new infected a day and it does not look like there will be more in upcoming weeks. Back in 23th June there were almost half less daily infected.
If you look at the new infection around the globe, three countries contribute to the new infections and those are Brazil, US and India and they combine hundred and fifty thousand patients on a daily basis but the rest of the countries have almost controlled the spread, that being said we have no idea what the future holds and whether there will be spikes, vaccine is the only solution and it will take time until then we need adjust our life around the virus.
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I am amazed at Dr. Fauci's skepticism. In my opinion, we are not waiting to be the first country to achieve a cure against covid19, humanity needs a cure as soon as possible. At this level, all tests and results of possible vaccines must be supported by global public health. There should be no improvisation, much less now. We know that we depend on science and the best scientists who are working hard against the clock.

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I do hope that the Chinese and the Russians are actually testing the vaccine before they are administering the vaccine to anyone,” Fauci said in a congressional hearing on the coronavirus crisis on Friday.

“I do not believe that there will be vaccines, so far ahead of us, that we will have to depend on other countries to get us vaccines.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/russia-gears-up-for-mass-vaccination-against-coronavirus.html


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