Bitcoin's name and Logo Registered in Spain.

[Oyarebu]

  Bitcoin's name and logo have been registered with the Spanish Patent and trademark office. This is great news for the family of Bitcoin to be recognized officially. An anonymous person through a lawyer had deemed it fit to secure the bitcoin name and its logo, he's a bitcoin buyer and seller, according to the news I quote: "I am a bitcoin salesman, I have a buying and selling office, and the idea is to protect bitcoin, at least in Spain. So I stand up for the brand and take responsibility that any new user can feel 100% safe working with me and away from the scams that name and use ‘bitcoin." These words are so powerful than I can imagine, lets us arise and protect this technology from the hands of its enemies, the Spanish have done the needful and let others follow suit. I welcome you'll to another world of Bitcoin. Source

[jackg]

Is there not already an EU wide patent? https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/4/EU010103646 (apparently registered in Germany in 2011)...

I mean it's a step but I don't know if it'll stop people relating scams to the name...

[dothebeats]

As noble and as pure this intention might be, people will still be finding a way to exploit the name 'bitcoin' unfortunately, and there's no one stopping them from doing so, not even trademarks or patents. It's good that people are resorting to legalities and the law when it comes to preventing scams and such, but in reality there will be cases that will arise and use bitcoin's name for their own benefit, much to the dismay of those who filed the patent and trademark.

[hatshepsut93]

Is he going to sue bcash and bsv and ban their websites in Spain? Cause I don't know what can

away from the scams that name and use ‘bitcoin.

possibly mean.

Also, Spain won't be the first country where Bitcoin is a registered trademark, but nothing big came out of it - no one tried to claim ownership of Bitcoin's protocol or software, so it's likely nothing big come out of this one too.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Also, Spain won't be the first country where Bitcoin is a registered trademark, but nothing big came out of it - no one tried to claim ownership of Bitcoin's protocol or software,

Because no single entity 'owns' or can 'own' the BTC protocol or code. Both are Open Source and were developed as a collaboration between many different people.

[Oyarebu]

Is there not already an EU wide patent? https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/4/EU010103646 (apparently registered in Germany in 2011)...

I mean it's a step but I don't know if it'll stop people relating scams to the name...

That's my bad, couldn't find the news when I searched with my phone, thanks for the share. Actually, with the name and logo be registered, investors will boldly adopt the coin because its from a reliable source (real source, an individual that is known in the society).

[NotATether]

I don't suppose that a registered trademark filing allows the anonymous person to take infringers to court, does it? The court would need to verify whether the prosecutor is the same anonymous person who filed the trademark, depending on the country.

[Debonaire217]

I see the reason why he patented Bitcoin to Spain is because of his buy and sell business, he will protect the integrity of bitcoin just by only through his business, and this will not restrict people to still use bitcoin in illegal ways such as scamming and committing fraud. Though, if he established a great name and proven the effectiveness of his service to buy and sell bitcoin, this will in fact, lessen the rate of cybercrimes committed through bitcoin. But in the first place, he, himself as stated is anonymous which will be hard for people to trust.

[Darker45]

Also, Spain won't be the first country where Bitcoin is a registered trademark, but nothing big came out of it - no one tried to claim ownership of Bitcoin's protocol or software,

Because no single entity 'owns' or can 'own' the BTC protocol or code. Both are Open Source and were developed as a collaboration between many different people.

But can a single entity own the name of that protocol or that entire project? Or its logo?

I have no idea on the bases by which trademark registration applications are granted but this particular decision appears questionable to me.

[Yaunfitda]

Is there not already an EU wide patent? https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/4/EU010103646 (apparently registered in Germany in 2011)...

I mean it's a step but I don't know if it'll stop people relating scams to the name...

And we also have this one: https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003279106 and https://trademarks.justia.com/861/35/bitcoin-86135516.html.

But in Russia, it was denied, http://www.rapsinews.ru/arbitration/20160321/275664290.html.

And we all know that Bitcoin's BTC logo can't be patented, if it is, then we might as well patented, Dollar or Yen.

[meanwords]

Also, Spain won't be the first country where Bitcoin is a registered trademark, but nothing big came out of it - no one tried to claim ownership of Bitcoin's protocol or software,

Because no single entity 'owns' or can 'own' the BTC protocol or code. Both are Open Source and were developed as a collaboration between many different people.

But can a single entity own the name of that protocol or that entire project? Or its logo?

I have no idea on the bases by which trademark registration applications are granted but this particular decision appears questionable to me.

There was a similar post posted yesterday pertaining to this event but I think what he only owns is the logo and the name of Bitcoin in Spain. If someone tried to use it, then he could use his power to get profit out of it. He can't control the entire project as like said in the above post, it's an open source and anyone can use it.

And we also have this one: https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003279106 and https://trademarks.justia.com/861/35/bitcoin-86135516.html.

But in Russia, it was denied, http://www.rapsinews.ru/arbitration/20160321/275664290.html.

And we all know that Bitcoin's BTC logo can't be patented, if it is, then we might as well patented, Dollar or Yen.

This man in Spain probably got away as their law probably doesn't see Bitcoin as a currency but as a piece of technology. I'm not sure though.

[verita1]

Bitcoin has gained recognition and has been thanks to the effort of everyone. There is still a long way to go but this step is very valuable and exemplary. I admire the determination of this man in Spain for having trademarked the Bitcoin name and logo and the willingness to defend it and promote its good use.
He has a goal and to make Bitcoin in his business that his clients feel safe doing their operations.

[seoincorporation]

This makes me ask myself, should bitcoin be patented on each country? or if it was already patented in another country then is nonsense to do it?

This looks like a nice step, but if it was already registered in Germany maybe it was just a waste of time.

[Darker45]

Also, Spain won't be the first country where Bitcoin is a registered trademark, but nothing big came out of it - no one tried to claim ownership of Bitcoin's protocol or software,

Because no single entity 'owns' or can 'own' the BTC protocol or code. Both are Open Source and were developed as a collaboration between many different people.

But can a single entity own the name of that protocol or that entire project? Or its logo?

I have no idea on the bases by which trademark registration applications are granted but this particular decision appears questionable to me.

He can't control the entire project as like said in the above post, it's an open source and anyone can use it.

The name and the logo of that entire project, that is what I meant.

Isn't it extremely ironic to try to selfishly own the name and the logo of a project which is not yours in the first place, designed to be public, not owned by anyone, not even attached to the real name/s of its creator/s since its inception, and so on?

I mean, how could anyone have the gall to register them as his/her own intellectual property, profit from it, and deprive others of their use when he/she is fully aware that he/she didn't make even a little contribution to its fruition?

[Jet Cash]

It's a pretty stupid thing to do, as it makes him look like a scammer. Also there is so much previous use of the name, that he will never be able to enforce it'. Even I have got a few Bitcoin domain names, so maybe I have more right to the name than he has.

Has his application succeeded? - it will make Spain look pretty stupid and out of touch if it has.

[Bttzed03]

~ Has his application succeeded? - it will make Spain look pretty stupid and out of touch if it has.

According to the source in the OP, 'bitcoin' and the logo (orange) was registered.


https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/#/tmview/detail/ES500000004046141


I'm having difficulty opening this site but I think you can verify it at http://www.oepm.es/es/index.html

[pawanjain]

It's good to know that someone is taking a step to protect the integrity of bitcoin but is it actually worth it ?
Does patenting the bitcoin's name and logo will stop others from scamming people ?

Bitcoin is used globally and so I think patenting the name in Spain won't stop people from outside the country to stop using the name.
Also, the person would have to renew the patenting periodically to hold the rights.

If at all the person sues somebody for infringement, the opposite party might sue him back since bitcoin is open source and nobody actually owns it.
So the case might go on for years. There are far too many possibilities here actually.

[wxxyrqa]

In my opinion, it's better to live in a world where there are no software patents. Although I really understand the importance of a bitcoin patent, as this will provide an opportunity to protect it from fraudsters and will provide an opportunity to develop the ecosystem more productively. but at the same time I want to note that it is the openness and freedom of the First cryptocurrency that ensures its popularity around the world. And given the fact that patents provide individuals or companies with exclusive property rights to inventions, there may be doubts about the safety of users and the independence of bitcoin in those places where the name and logo will be used. In addition, in accordance with the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT), the patent holder retains the same rights with respect to the patented invention in 152 countries. So the rights of the patent holder extend not only to Spain.

[stompix]

I don't think he has managed to register the name "bitcoin", more like the so-called logo when accompanied y the name bitcoin.

Colores reivindicados:
AZUL 0, MAGENTA 51, AMARILLO 92, NEGRO 0

Reivindicación Adquisición:
REIVINDICACIÓN DE CARÁCTER DISTINTIVO POR EL USO

Descripción del distintivo:
TIPO DE LETRA NEW JUNE HEAVY,LETRA B MAYUSCULA CON DOS APENDICES SUPERIORES Y DOS INFERIORES, CONTENIDA EN CIRCULO NARANJA DESCRITO EN EL ARTICULO ANTERIOR, SEGUIDA DE LA PALABRA BITCOIN CON MINUSCULA EN TONALIDAD NEGRA

So something like is :

is not protected nor is the usage of the word bitcoin without the exact logo.

[jackg]

Also, Spain won't be the first country where Bitcoin is a registered trademark, but nothing big came out of it - no one tried to claim ownership of Bitcoin's protocol or software,

Because no single entity 'owns' or can 'own' the BTC protocol or code. Both are Open Source and were developed as a collaboration between many different people.

But can a single entity own the name of that protocol or that entire project? Or its logo?

I have no idea on the bases by which trademark registration applications are granted but this particular decision appears questionable to me.

There was a similar post posted yesterday pertaining to this event but I think what he only owns is the logo and the name of Bitcoin in Spain. If someone tried to use it, then he could use his power to get profit out of it. He can't control the entire project as like said in the above post, it's an open source and anyone can use it.

And we also have this one: https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003279106 and https://trademarks.justia.com/861/35/bitcoin-86135516.html.

But in Russia, it was denied, http://www.rapsinews.ru/arbitration/20160321/275664290.html.

And we all know that Bitcoin's BTC logo can't be patented, if it is, then we might as well patented, Dollar or Yen.

This man in Spain probably got away as their law probably doesn't see Bitcoin as a currency but as a piece of technology. I'm not sure though.

It'll be that they can protect misuse of the name. It's going to be similar to how you can use other logos in an appropriate space, a patent just blocks misuse of a name and logo if it's actively enforced.


For the enforcement part, I think these were all just registered so no one else did, it was 2011 so it was hopefully someone close to the space....


The EU considers bitcoin money as a whole, is the dollar sign not protected? Can you not claim a piece of paper is a dollar without problem (just curious)...