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June 24, 2020, 12:19:09 PM
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Greetings to everyone going through this topic, Now a quick question to the legendaries on Bitcointalk, much as to those who have been in Bitcointalk forum for a long time (years). Please does deleting of my old previous post that has been made for years on BITCOINTALK FORUM affects my present activities when it comes to Bounty signature Campaign that am handling presently. I believe few users just like newbies who know nothing about bounty signature Campaign will love to get you contributions. Thanks ✌️

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June 24, 2020, 12:35:50 PM
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Depends on the campaign manager. If the campaign manager counts the number of posts during a period then it should be unaffected. However, if a campaign manager is solely basing it on post count, then it may well be effect you. Most of the good signature campaign managers will be reviewing the amount of posts within the period that they're paying for though. Honestly, some of the lower quality campaigns out there, and there's a lot of them in the altcoin section, are not counting during a period, and are simply looking at the total post count during a time period.

On a forum viewpoint, a deleted post on its own will not have any effect on your signature. Although, some users do receive signature bans for certain actions taken on the forum such as spamming etc.
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June 24, 2020, 12:37:29 PM
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Greetings to everyone going through this topic, Now a quick question to the legendaries on Bitcointalk, much as to those who have been in Bitcointalk forum for a long time (years). Please does deleting of my old previous post that has been made for years on BITCOINTALK FORUM affects my present activities when it comes to Bounty signature Campaign that am handling presently. I believe few users just like newbies who know nothing about bounty signature Campaign will love to get you contributions. Thanks ✌️

I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly.
You want to know if old deleted posts/threads of yours have a disadvantage on your current signature(rewards)?

//edit: Was overtaken while thinking and typing. I think the question was clarified Wink

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June 24, 2020, 12:45:03 PM
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As stated by Welsh, that only depends on your campaign manager and has nothing to do with forum rules.
I think the best thing you can do is to send a message to your campaign manager and let him/her know why your post count has decreased.

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June 24, 2020, 12:48:20 PM
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I will give you examples:
- If you remove 5 old posts from your 712, then you will have now 707. If you started the week in signature with your 712 posts then even if you post 15 additional posts so 722 total posts, you risk that only 10 posts will count. It may depends also from sig/bounty managers.
- let's say you make 1 post per day for example. If you remove your first 14 posts then your activity will drop by 14, if you remove 28 posts then it will drop by 28 and so on. Now if you have only 1 post per activity period (14 days) and you removed 10 posts then you will lose 140 activity. Depending from your actual activity number and the number of the deleted posts your rank can be downgraded except for legendary (hero not sure) which remains legendary even with 0 activity.

Edit: took 15 minutes to write this seriously... There was no comment here lol

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June 24, 2020, 01:11:49 PM
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You can not worry about this by making post because of you want to contribute/participate on the forum -usefully- if during a week of a signature campaign you give more time to your duty -signature campaign- constructively, you would find out at the end that you did not only meet up with the post count but added more. Rather than doing it for post count meet up risking
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don't boarder to much about deleted post -recent or years-, it's a way the forum get cleanses.  
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June 24, 2020, 01:50:56 PM
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If you delete a lot of posts, you may lose your rank, and therefore you may be excluded from the signature campaign. Suppose you have about 300 posts and delete 200, and you will return to the member rank and therefore you will be excluded from participation in the signature campaign.
Full member have signature with colors while member without
Therefore, do not delete any post unless you are certain of the risks.
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June 24, 2020, 02:32:28 PM
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Please does deleting of my old previous post that has been made for years on BITCOINTALK FORUM affects my present activities when it comes to Bounty signature Campaign that am handling presently.
No, most managers would count your individual posts rather than simply subtracting the previous post count from the current one. Most campaigns have board specifications as well as minimum characters to be eligible and managers have to properly check each week.

On your activity count, that would only be affected if you post and activity count are close. You have 712 posts and 546 activity, deleting a couple of posts would not affect your score. Although, some users see post deletion as an attempt to hide something, so you should have a valid reason to delete old posts

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June 24, 2020, 03:16:55 PM
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On your activity count, that would only be affected if you post and activity count are close. You have 712 posts and 546 activity, deleting a couple of posts would not affect your score. Although, some users see post deletion as an attempt to hide something, so you should have a valid reason to delete old posts
If all posts made in a two-week activity period are deleted, the activity will decrease  by 14.
So, it depends on which posts are deleted. Deleting only 1 post may cause the activity to decrease by 14. Deleting hundreds of posts can be ineffective on activity.

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June 24, 2020, 03:40:36 PM
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Depends on the campaign manager. If the campaign manager counts the number of posts during a period then it should be unaffected. However, if a campaign manager is solely basing it on post count, then it may well be effect you. Most of the good signature campaign managers will be reviewing the amount of posts within the period that they're paying for though. Honestly, some of the lower quality campaigns out there, and there's a lot of them in the altcoin section, are not counting during a period, and are simply looking at the total post count during a time period.

On a forum viewpoint, a deleted post on its own will not have any effect on your signature. Although, some users do receive signature bans for certain actions taken on the forum such as spamming etc.
Ok now am getting a clear understanding about it, why am asking this is due to my activities of Bounties Campaign back then it's really Much few members was kind of mocking me that I have some many activities to be a full member but am still on member rank which is due to all those post of bounty reports I have submitted on those past bounties thread. I just want to clear it up, so my account will look much better.

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June 24, 2020, 04:06:57 PM
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So, it depends on which posts are deleted.
True, that's why average post per activity period counts. You can selectively delete posts across each period and it has no effect on your total score.
I just want to clear it up, so my account will look much better.
It depends on how much posts you plan on clearing up. You can afford to lose a couple of activity points as you are member ranked and require >60 activity to retain your rank.

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Ok now am getting a clear understanding about it, why am asking this is due to my activities of Bounties Campaign back then it's really Much few members was kind of mocking me that I have some many activities to be a full member but am still on member rank which is due to all those post of bounty reports I have submitted on those past bounties thread. I just want to clear it up, so my account will look much better.
I can understand your feelings. You can delete your previous posts but you will likely lose much activity here. The number of posts itself isn't important and can be recovered which isn't the case for activity (if you care about it ofc).
I can give you a solution, check this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/htmlview, find the duration of each period, then go to your previous posts and delete whatever post you like but you should keep at least 1 post per period to avoid losing the 14 activity for that period. Just keep in mind that the more post you have per period, the safer it be. Since that 1 post you kept can be deleted at any moment and you will lose your activity.
You can also edit your posts in bounties, change the text or remove a part and put it like this...
Everyone has a bad start somewhere in the net including legendary and staff. Digging too far in the past is pathetic imo. Good luck Smiley

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June 24, 2020, 05:04:36 PM
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<…> I just want to clear it up, so my account will look much better.
Just bear in mind that excessive cleansing may lead to your account going down a rank grade or two. In your case though, you’ve got plenty of cleansing margin (Activity is that of a Hero Member, but Merits lead to a Member rank), so you should be pretty safe from this taking place.
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<…> I just want to clear it up, so my account will look much better.
Just bear in mind that excessive cleansing may lead to your account going down a rank grade or two. In your case though, you’ve got plenty of cleansing margin (Activity is that of a Hero Member, but Merits lead to a Member rank), so you should be pretty safe from this taking place.


A Hero member with 481 post deletes 360 posts, gets 121 activity and becomes a Full member. During next 2 weeks he makes 360+ new posts (lets imagine they are all eligible and wont be deleted, even though it sounds unreal). Will he have 481+ activity and becomes Hero member again, or will his activity number be 126 (and he will have to wait all that 2-week time period) ?

 
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A Hero member with 481 post deletes 360 posts, gets 121 activity and becomes a Full member. During next 2 weeks he makes 360+ new posts (lets imagine they are all eligible and wont be deleted, even though it sounds unreal). Will he have 481+ activity and becomes Hero member again, or will his activity number be 126 (and he will have to wait all that 2-week time period) ?
That depends on number of two-week periods the user has been active in.

The activity calculated as follows.

Activity = min (posts, 14* N),
N = number of two-week periods that the user has posted in

Let's say all those 360 deleted posts had been made in a single two week-period. If so, in the worst case, N decreases only by 1. If the user makes 360 more posts, once he/she enters the new two-week period and makes a post, N and activity will become same as before.

Now assume that those 360 posts had been made in 20 different two-week periods and there is no post remaining in those 20 two-week periods. This can cause 14*N to be lower than post count. In this case, the user cannot get more than 14 activity in the next two-week period.

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June 24, 2020, 09:04:46 PM
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If the campaign manager counts the number of posts during a period then it should be unaffected. However, if a campaign manager is solely basing it on post count, then it may well be effect you.
OP, the above is the answer you're looking for.  I don't know how many campaign managers are active these days, but I know some of the best ones only count posts from period to period, and in that case it doesn't matter if you get posts deleted that were made earlier than whatever time period is being counted. 

I wouldn't worry about it too much, because if you're a member here long enough and make a decent number of posts some of them are going to get deleted because of thread deletion or whatever--and there's nothing you can do about it anyway.

Just bear in mind that excessive cleansing may lead to your account going down a rank grade or two.
Yep, that's true (except if you're a Legendary member if I'm not mistaken).

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June 24, 2020, 09:15:51 PM
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Just bear in mind that excessive cleansing may lead to your account going down a rank grade or two.
Yep, that's true (except if you're a Legendary member if I'm not mistaken).
Hmm... Wait a minute... It's new to me  Cheesy According to the forum rules, the rank of each user will be determined by the number of merit they earn + the corresponding number of activity points over time that were active. How can the number of posts affect the rank of a members? I mean, even if the posts are deleted, the merit is still there, the activity points are still there, how their rank is reduced if the rank is not related to the number of posts  Roll Eyes

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Yep, that's true (except if you're a Legendary member if I'm not mistaken).
It's possible to lose the legendary rank.
Read the following post made by DdmrDdmr.

<...> If you de-rank from a Legendary to Hero (of course, if this is possible) in order to rank back up do you need to reach the same activity as the first time or it's again a random number between 775-1030?
I’ve seen a few de-ranked cases from Legendary a lower rank by deleting posts:

Wolf0 was a Legendary on the 07/09/2018 (posts 6034; activity 1078; merit 1002) and is now a Member (posts 81;  activity 81; Merit 1002).

jpoker272727 was a Legendary on the 31/08/2018 (posts 1021; activity 1021; merit 1000), a week later he was a Hero just by deleting 4 net posts (posts 1017; activity 1017; Merit 1000). By the 05/10/2018 he got back to Legendary (posts 1021; activity 1020; Merit 1000).

cpfreeplz was a Legendary on the 31/08/2018 (posts 2282; activity 924; merit 1033), a week later he was a Hero just by deleting 2 net posts (posts 2280; activity 910; Merit 1033). By the 28/09/2018 he got back to Legendary (posts 2279; activity 924; Merit 1033).

So even deleting a few posts when the activity is way above the minimum threshold is no guarantee of not being de-raked from Legendary to Hero. It seems as if an activity decrease causes a re-evaluation process, at least if you are in the random activity range (775-1030).

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June 24, 2020, 09:22:20 PM
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Just bear in mind that excessive cleansing may lead to your account going down a rank grade or two.
Yep, that's true (except if you're a Legendary member if I'm not mistaken).
Hmm... Wait a minute... It's new to me  Cheesy According to the forum rules, the rank of each user will be determined by the number of merit they earn + the corresponding number of activity points over time that were active. How can the number of posts affect the rank of a members? I mean, even if the posts are deleted, the merit is still there, the activity points are still there, how their rank is reduced if the rank is not related to the number of posts  Roll Eyes
IIRC, if you delete your posts, you'll lose your activity points and no matter how many merits you have, you still can lose rank. I was sure that's not possible to loose Legendary rank, but from post above, seems that I was wrong.

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June 24, 2020, 11:10:01 PM
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Yep, that's true (except if you're a Legendary member if I'm not mistaken).
It's possible to lose the legendary rank.
Read the following post made by DdmrDdmr.

<...> If you de-rank from a Legendary to Hero (of course, if this is possible) in order to rank back up do you need to reach the same activity as the first time or it's again a random number between 775-1030?
I’ve seen a few de-ranked cases from Legendary a lower rank by deleting posts:

Wolf0 was a Legendary on the 07/09/2018 (posts 6034; activity 1078; merit 1002) and is now a Member (posts 81;  activity 81; Merit 1002).

jpoker272727 was a Legendary on the 31/08/2018 (posts 1021; activity 1021; merit 1000), a week later he was a Hero just by deleting 4 net posts (posts 1017; activity 1017; Merit 1000). By the 05/10/2018 he got back to Legendary (posts 1021; activity 1020; Merit 1000).

cpfreeplz was a Legendary on the 31/08/2018 (posts 2282; activity 924; merit 1033), a week later he was a Hero just by deleting 2 net posts (posts 2280; activity 910; Merit 1033). By the 28/09/2018 he got back to Legendary (posts 2279; activity 924; Merit 1033).

So even deleting a few posts when the activity is way above the minimum threshold is no guarantee of not being de-raked from Legendary to Hero. It seems as if an activity decrease causes a re-evaluation process, at least if you are in the random activity range (775-1030).
First time seeing this although I check meta regularly in general. I remember and I am pretty sure that I saw some legendary members removing almost all their posts and remained in the legendary rank. Maybe there is an activity limit to exceed so you can be safe as pointed in that topic. 1070? I don't know. Anyone has a clue?

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