Safepal hardware wallet review and opinions

[taufik123]

Yeah, it's also the same with the newer models of the Trezor hardware wallets as well. I believe all hardware wallet manufacturers are forced to keep some of their hardware proprietary to keep their competitors from copying their designs.

Not only the design, but the technology they found certainly does not want to be exposed with a gap given as open source.
Modern hardware wallets today provide more features and security that are the best, and every manufacturer is racing to be the best.

The price is also more expensive with a myriad of complete features and an easy-to-use user interface,
especially now that many hardware wallets use a fairly wide touch screen.

Some hardware wallets certainly provide discounts for Christmas and New Year this year, just choose which one is suitable.

[Wind_FURY]

Yeah, it's also the same with the newer models of the Trezor hardware wallets as well. I believe all hardware wallet manufacturers are forced to keep some of their hardware proprietary to keep their competitors from copying their designs.

Not only the design, but the technology they found certainly does not want to be exposed with a gap given as open source.
Modern hardware wallets today provide more features and security that are the best, and every manufacturer is racing to be the best.

The price is also more expensive with a myriad of complete features and an easy-to-use user interface,
especially now that many hardware wallets use a fairly wide touch screen.

Some hardware wallets certainly provide discounts for Christmas and New Year this year, just choose which one is suitable.

The only disadvantage if a company keeps their hardware/software/firmware closed source, or proprietary is if there's an exploit found by a nefarious entity, then that exploit would only be known by that entity. There won't be a community of contributors looking for those exploits to expose them for everyone to see, and for the vendor to patch them.

[taufik123]

The only disadvantage if a company keeps their hardware/software/firmware closed source, or proprietary is if there's an exploit found by a nefarious entity, then that exploit would only be known by that entity. There won't be a community of contributors looking for those exploits to expose them for everyone to see, and for the vendor to patch them.

Therefore, there are companies that provide semi-open source to provide space for the developer community to help track any bugs that may still be open or new bugs that have not been discovered by the core team.

The Safepal S1 and S1 Pro series seem to be still Close Source, but for the latest Safepal X1 Series that you will soon get (a Christmas gift from your crypto friends) Source-available (Partially),
Free & Open Source (FOSS) which means that only some parts are Open Source or can be said to be Semi Open Source, and Safepal X1 Series is the first safepal device that is Open Source

Safepal S1 & S1 Pro

https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/safepal-s1-pro

Safepal X1

https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/safepal-x1

[Wind_FURY]

The only disadvantage if a company keeps their hardware/software/firmware closed source, or proprietary is if there's an exploit found by a nefarious entity, then that exploit would only be known by that entity. There won't be a community of contributors looking for those exploits to expose them for everyone to see, and for the vendor to patch them.

Therefore, there are companies that provide semi-open source to provide space for the developer community to help track any bugs that may still be open or new bugs that have not been discovered by the core team.

The Safepal S1 and S1 Pro series seem to be still Close Source, but for the latest Safepal X1 Series that you will soon get (a Christmas gift from your crypto friends) Source-available (Partially),
Free & Open Source (FOSS) which means that only some parts are Open Source or can be said to be Semi Open Source, and Safepal X1 Series is the first safepal device that is Open Source

Safepal S1 & S1 Pro

https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/safepal-s1-pro

Safepal X1

https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/safepal-x1

That's good to know, but personally, I can't trust any hardware wallet for very large amounts of Bitcoin. I still have my air-gapped computer that will never connect to the internet again while I use it as my cold-storage.

Plus I already got my SafePal X1.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375482.msg66220449#msg66220449

I'm confused with the app. I can't find the Native Segwit addresses.

[rdluffy]

That's good to know, but personally, I can't trust any hardware wallet for very large amounts of Bitcoin. I still have my air-gapped computer that will never connect to the internet again while I use it as my cold-storage.

Plus I already got my SafePal X1.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375482.msg66220449#msg66220449

I'm confused with the app. I can't find the Native Segwit addresses.

That's nice 
Mine is still on its way
Safepal sent it on December 14, and the Brazilian Postal Service received it on the 29th
I believe I should receive it next week between January 5 and 9

Then post a brief review of what you think of the wallet 

[Wind_FURY]

That's good to know, but personally, I can't trust any hardware wallet for very large amounts of Bitcoin. I still have my air-gapped computer that will never connect to the internet again while I use it as my cold-storage.

Plus I already got my SafePal X1.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375482.msg66220449#msg66220449

I'm confused with the app. I can't find the Native Segwit addresses.

That's nice  
Mine is still on its way
Safepal sent it on December 14, and the Brazilian Postal Service received it on the 29th
I believe I should receive it next week between January 5 and 9

Then post a brief review of what you think of the wallet  

OK, I will do that as soon as I actually start using it. Haha. It's currently back in the box and it's waiting for a reason for me to start using it. Although, I have already generated and backed up a seed phrase for it.

I also have a Ledger that I don't use everyday. All of my hardware wallet activity is still through my old and trusted Trezor One.

[rdluffy]

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OK, I will do that as soon as I actually start using it. Haha. It's currently back in the box and it's waiting for a reason for me to start using it. Although, I have already generated and backed up a seed phrase for it.

I also have a Ledger that I don't use everyday. All of my hardware wallet activity is still through my old and trusted Trezor One.

My Safelpal will be delayed a little, my country's tax authorities are charging some additional taxes  
I won the Safepal from Jumper Exchange, but even so, they are still charging me some taxes on top of the shipping costs

Brazil is not a friendly place for international shopping
I hope they don't open the packaging in the process

[Pmalek]

The only disadvantage if a company keeps their hardware/software/firmware closed source, or proprietary is if there's an exploit found by a nefarious entity, then that exploit would only be known by that entity. There won't be a community of contributors looking for those exploits to expose them for everyone to see, and for the vendor to patch them.

Hackers and security professionals with good intentions won't expose exploits, bugs, and vulnerabilities to the general public. By doing that, they could create many problems for the users of said software or hardware. Instead, there is a thing called responsible disclosure. They disclose their findings to the company and its developers. The company then has time to investigate the findings and patch the issues. Only after weeks or months and after a fix has been released for the users, will the company release information about what happened and why there is a need to update.

[SFR10]

I'm confused with the app. I can't find the Native Segwit addresses.

Here's a "video" that shows how you can use Native Segwit addresses on their companion app.

I hope they don't open the packaging in the process

I'm not sure if that's the norm with the customs in your country, but it's worth noting that SafePal has an authentication mechanism on its devices.
^{- Unfortunately, I don't think you can ask for a replacement or a refund if it fails the authentication part.}

[taufik123]

-snip-
there is a thing called responsible disclosure. They disclose their findings to the company and its developers. The company then has time to investigate the findings and patch the issues. Only after weeks or months and after a fix has been released for the users, will the company release information about what happened and why there is a need to update.

Responsible disclosure may be like a Bug Bounty or even if it is not written that the hardware wallet company that gets information about the latest bug should also reward users who disclose some of the bugs they find.
But some uninformed companies don't even provide any rewards to individuals or communities that help develop their software and hardware wallets.

I'm not sure if that's the norm with the customs in your country, but it's worth noting that SafePal has an authentication mechanism on its devices.
^{- Unfortunately, I don't think you can ask for a replacement or a refund if it fails the authentication part.}

Supposedly, if it is indeed opened, it is only limited to seeing if it is really the same item as on the packaging, because such checks are often carried out by customs,
but some also only look at it from an X-ray camera without the need to open the seal.

Safepal S1 or other safepal hardware does have device authentication when a new device is opened and turned on,
it will display a QR Code that directs the user to verify the 6-digit code generated by the safepal device randomly.

This is done to validate the original device or have been used before,
because if the device has been activated before, it will only appear in the main menu by asking for a PIN Code

[rdluffy]

I hope they don't open the packaging in the process

I'm not sure if that's the norm with the customs in your country, but it's worth noting that SafePal has an authentication mechanism on its devices.
^{- Unfortunately, I don't think you can ask for a replacement or a refund if it fails the authentication part.}

In the document that must be declared, Safepal described: SEED PHRASE STORAGE HARDWARE WALLET

So they know it's a hard wallet, but I really hope the packaging hasn't been tampered with. I'll check it carefully to make sure
And I'll definitely look into this authentication mechanism

Thanks 

[Wind_FURY]

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OK, I will do that as soon as I actually start using it. Haha. It's currently back in the box and it's waiting for a reason for me to start using it. Although, I have already generated and backed up a seed phrase for it.

I also have a Ledger that I don't use everyday. All of my hardware wallet activity is still through my old and trusted Trezor One.

My Safelpal will be delayed a little, my country's tax authorities are charging some additional taxes  
I won the Safepal from Jumper Exchange, but even so, they are still charging me some taxes on top of the shipping costs

Brazil is not a friendly place for international shopping
I hope they don't open the packaging in the process

If ANYONE breaks the seal and opens the box, then that hardware wallet can't be trusted to be stored with ANY amount of Bitcoin. But that's merely my suggestion. You can still use it if you think that I'm very paranoid with such things.

Although, owning Bitcoin should come with good OPSEC.