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June 25, 2020, 09:48:16 AM
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We can schedule that, if you wish to talk to the team, should be no problem there....Here is some proof we already posted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173082.msg54672484#msg54672484

Actually your proof made me even more suspicious, and it's regarding this Solomon Bleier

In the archived page of your website you had a link to his LinkedIn account, now you've removed it
https://web.archive.org/web/20190806212136/https://icoin.ws/
https://archive.vn/c22VT

Why?
Is maybe because you realized the picture on his Linkedin account is the same as the one you provided as proof but cropped?
https://archive.vn/K99eq
So this senior, with 30 years of experience creates an account and he uses the same picture he obviously used for KYC on some other service?
Fishy...
Not to mention that the picture with him with his ID card doesn't read Solomon Bleier.

Second
The other team member of which you provided "proof" is Leopold Guttman
But what a surprise, in the archived version of your site, there is no Leopold Guttman:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190806212136/https://icoin.ws/
He suddenly popped up when you needed some proof of "real" team members.

Not going to say the team is entirely fake but it's suspicious enough to make me not trust a word from you.

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Most ICOs go into the world of ICOs with little forewarning about obscure "marketing" tactics of these "service providers".

If you're restarting it now - what happened to the original IEO and to the bounty campaign? Did you stiff bounty participants?


The bounty rewards will be given out after the restarted ICO has concluded. The IEO on Latoken has already finished but we have not sold all the tokens yet.
If you want to clear the air. I will advise you to correct the whitepaper that was plagiarised and privately provides the prove about the team to people like The Pharmacist/stompix/Suchmoon because some people are yet to believe the previous evidence you provided due to @The Pharmacist's message.
In the meantime, you have learned a pretty hard lesson and whenever you gave job to content writers or ICO services always cross-check their job.

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June 25, 2020, 11:00:56 AM
Last edit: June 25, 2020, 11:13:51 AM by icoininternational
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We can schedule that, if you wish to talk to the team, should be no problem there....Here is some proof we already posted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173082.msg54672484#msg54672484
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The KYC pictures - We are using them for the KYC procedure on ICObench. They currently serve as placeholder purposes on other sites because we are trying to build the ICO up properly this time.
Some of the info on the site, ICObench and so on, is outdated or incorrect. We will be changing this soon.


If you still have doubts, feel free to schedule a video chat.

Schlomo is the modern Hebrew form of SOLOMON. It is the same.





If you want to clear the air. I will advise you to correct the whitepaper that was plagiarised and privately provides the prove about the team to people like The Pharmacist/stompix/Suchmoon because some people are yet to believe the previous evidence you provided due to @The Pharmacist's message.
In the meantime, you have learned a pretty hard lesson and whenever you gave job to content writers or ICO services always cross-check their job.


The one thing that is definitely new since June 2020 is the whitepaper. We have hired new people with good reputation who are helping us get this ICO back on its feet.

Please read it on icoin.ws.


Edit: for the people misunderstanding us: We are not against the negative trust ratings. We are against the false accusations in the comments made against us (That we are from spectresecurity.io or that we have scammed anyone. We have never scammed anyone nor do we know who spectresecurity.io is) - These accusations are ungrounded. we hope you understand.


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If you want to clear the air. I will advise you to correct the whitepaper that was plagiarised and privately provides the prove about the team to people like The Pharmacist/stompix/Suchmoon because some people are yet to believe the previous evidence you provided due to @The Pharmacist's message.
In the meantime, you have learned a pretty hard lesson and whenever you gave job to content writers or ICO services always cross-check their job.


The one thing that is definitely new since June 2020 is the whitepaper. We have hired new people with good reputation who are helping us get this ICO back on its feet.

Please read it on icoin.ws.


Edit: for the people misunderstanding us: We are not against the negative trust ratings. We are against the false accusations in the comments made against us (That we are from spectresecurity.io or that we have scammed anyone. We have never scammed anyone nor do we know who spectresecurity.io is) - These accusations are ungrounded. we hope you understand.
Now i understand your point. I need you to understand that crypto related project scam is done in assortments of ways and it not only project that robs investors/bounty hunter off their money are the only project to tag as scam, every project that is not honest in either through the roadmap, whitepaper or rewards etc can also be tag as scam project.

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June 26, 2020, 10:12:53 PM
Last edit: June 26, 2020, 10:29:27 PM by goldkingcoiner
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Just to jump in here guys Grin:

I have had a video chat with members of the team before. I have been shown documents such as utility bills with their names on it, drivers ID's, government issued mining licences,   and the contracts with land owners and partners.

I guess I could go further and ask the government that issued the documents. (After all if the government documents weren't real the "team" would be (legally) in really hot water)

About me: A couple of months back I was scouted to be an ICO adviser for iCoin. They fell into a hole they dug for themselves with the whole plagarism and fake marketing services stuff and needed my consult on how to now get out. Of course, the scam accusation made me very sceptical but they always provided me all the extra evidence I asked from them.

I have worked with other projects who fell for bad ICO services before. One of my projects paid over 10 BTC to be listed on IDAX. IDAX gave them a few hours of listing time,
said the IEO was a success and that was it. To my knowledge, no funds withdrawal was ever made, . They even hired lawyers but its no use. But yeah, I agree with the posters here; iCoin should have been more careful. I hope this was a lesson well learnt. ICO world is full of bad apples.


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June 27, 2020, 10:54:04 PM
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The one thing that is definitely new since June 2020 is the whitepaper. We have hired new people with good reputation who are helping us get this ICO back on its feet.

Please read it on icoin.ws.


Edit: for the people misunderstanding us: We are not against the negative trust ratings. We are against the false accusations in the comments made against us (That we are from spectresecurity.io or that we have scammed anyone. We have never scammed anyone nor do we know who spectresecurity.io is) - These accusations are ungrounded. we hope you understand.



I don't see here false accusation, you are plagiarised WP, and there is nothing false. Why you hire new people? Only because the old team just copy/paste someone's else work and portrayed him as yours?
Negative trust here serves as a warning to potential investors to know that you are also ready for some dishonourable actions to collect money from them. we often see various excuses, you didn't do it, a marketing agency which you hired they have not done their job and they are guilty of plagiarism ... at the end, it is your duty to pay attention to every detail of the project including whitepaper and team members pictures.
Maybe you really had no idea to scam on someone, but by this, you have shown unprofessionalism and a characteristic that bothers many projects, you are sloppy and do not pay attention to all the details.

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