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June 25, 2020, 07:25:02 AM
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/judge-accepts-craig-wrights-autism-defense-says-no-to-sanctions

Whatever the man did , we all know , to sum up now his lawyers tried to prove that he is Autistic and thus trail shouldn't be harsh and all .

Now the judge is seriously pissed off and he apparently is not gonna leave the man , even though he did accept the Autism defense , sanctions were kicked out of the picture.

This came out to be a little funny , Autistic? Is he mocking the community?  Autism is no joke , I have seen people struggling day and night to do a simple task in regards to that , you don't have Autism if it suddenly appeared after death of your best friend when you are in your 40's.

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Wright said his witness had diagnosed him with “Autism Spectrum Disorder with high intellectual skills” which needed to be taken into account when assessing his somewhat inconsistent statements to the court. Under Judge Bloom's ruling, Wright's autism defense is cleared to proceed at this point


Isn't this too convincing? Right after we got to know that the man really did confess his crimes , when he was gonna go into trial he suddenly took the low road. Why was there no mention of it before ?

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Dr. Wright’s Aspergers sometimes stop him from skillfully navigating social situations, which is one of the reasons why Dr. Wright created Bitcoin under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. In Dr. Wright’s blog post he goes on to explain why he decided to stay anonymous when creating Bitcoin


He is now claiming to be Autistic ..

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What distinguishes Asperger's Disorder from classic autism are its less severe symptoms and the absence of language delays. Children with Asperger's Disorder may be only mildly affected, and they frequently have good language and cognitive skills.


The symptoms usually Begin at the age of 2 or before that , therefore I do think he would have had some support and proof regarding the same.

https://youtu.be/_GJq37xrrW0 This is him speaking in the conference of 2019 of coingeek , whereas am not able to identify any social problems , I do think he would soon come up with an explanation regarding the same.

But court is not going to go easy on the man .. he pissed off the Judge really good.

Do you guys think the man is Autistic and therefore we shouldn't be harsh on him ? Or he is again doing what he does best *lying*.

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June 25, 2020, 08:45:10 AM
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do Craig wright and his lawyer thinks that people are too stupid to buy the bullshit that they are claiming! I notice that a lot of wealthy people tend to claim that they have a medical problem when their case starts to lose so they can avoid harsh punishment. him claiming that he has autism is an insult to those who actually have them!

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June 25, 2020, 09:14:56 AM
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From this court case and his general disposition, we can see that CSW is a logical and highly intelligent person and unfortunately I believe he’s got a ‘Master Plan’ that no of us are aware of. Whether he’s shows autistic traits or pathological liar traits is debatable, but what I’m sure of is this case will go on and on and somehow it will play into his hands. He is always 2 steps ahead of everyone - whether we like it or not unfortunately.
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June 25, 2020, 10:46:02 AM
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But court is not going to go easy on the man .. he pissed off the Judge really good.

Where did you get that?

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“According to Plaintiffs [Ira Kleiman et al.], throughout the litigation Defendant [Craig Wright] has engaged in a sustained pattern of perjury, forged evidence, misleading filings, and obstruction,” according to a court order filed Wednesday.

And the judge dismissed it. It was the best chance to punish CWS for his actual crimes, and not stealing some imaginary coins. But of course the judge doesn't know anything about crypto, so he doesn't see any problems with fake signatures and all the other lies that CWS spews.

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June 25, 2020, 11:13:24 AM
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Well, it seems he cannot fool the judge so easily.

I have friends with sons and daughters with autism and it is no joke.
They are trying their best to be a good parent even with a difficult situation.
If he is proved to be lying with this sickness that he is claiming, we will see more lawsuit filed against him especially the organizations who are protecting people with the said sickness.

He might as well claim it until the end or else it will be a bad road for him in jail.
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June 25, 2020, 11:27:37 AM
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do Craig wright and his lawyer thinks that people are too stupid to buy the bullshit that they are claiming! I notice that a lot of wealthy people tend to claim that they have a medical problem when their case starts to lose so they can avoid harsh punishment. him claiming that he has autism is an insult to those who actually have them!
it's one of the ways to give them time to bribe lawmakers. after everything was okay he was only given an administrative fine or the lightest possible penalty. This is the trick of those who do a lot of money, they need time to manipulate the power of the law outside and I'm used to it. This world has no fairness.
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June 25, 2020, 11:41:50 AM
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all of this is foolish drama
ira's defense team is not trying to get CSW for being a pennyless scammer.
ira's defense is that the tulip trust has value and CSW owes a 3rd of it to the kleiman estate

.. ira's defense team dont want CSW punished. but instead have the case judged to be finalised that the tulip trust has value and that a sum is owed to kleiman estate

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but thats the whole game
outside the ira/csw game we all know the tulip trust has no value. and no one will get anything from it.

inside the ira/csw game they want a judge to finalise a judgement that the tulip trust has value without hearing true evidence and without causing CSW or ira any hardship via true justice.

the goal is because ira and CSW are actually both playing the same team game. trying to use social media and fake evidence/lack of evidence to try to use as proof of the tulip trust validity.

CSW wants to escape having to be slapped around by australian government in court so wants this drama to continue for many many more months to be out of scope of ATO's civil statute of limitations for an unpaid tax bill.
but also wants the results to be in favour of flimsy BS showing they tulip trust does have 'satoshi stash' coins worth billions

this is not a battle of enemies but a tennis game between friends, with a friendly wager that Ira gets paid just for playing and CSW gets a big win if he can get the umpire of the tennis court game to sway in csw's favour

if you think that this is going to be the case that puts the nail in CSW coffin. then you need to really ask yourself what are the filings/charges that ira's side are trying to persue against CSW.

even if you read ira's filings about the background of the case. it reads as if ira beleives CSW and dave created btc and that its all valid and the only thing in question is why CSW is hiding the funds and not paying them to the kleiman estate

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seems many in this forum do not realise the levels of deception happening in this case and still think that this is the case that will end CSW drama finally.
sorry guys its not
your only seeing a friendly rigged game of tennis. and not a battle of oppositions

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patent trolls use similar tactics all the time
create a flimsy patent that sounds like property that already exists. proclaim it as theirs. try to find an opposition to take it to court. try to get court to win in favour of the patent troll . suddenly the patent/original product is property of the troll.. or the case is just troddled down a lengthy path to delay real justice or to waste peoples time for other reasons.

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June 25, 2020, 01:17:07 PM
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What a vague reason. He don't have reason anymore and probably see that as his escape goat or he actually has a plan and that's going well for his part.

From this court case and his general disposition, we can see that CSW is a logical and highly intelligent person and unfortunately I believe he’s got a ‘Master Plan’ that no of us are aware of. Whether he’s shows autistic traits or pathological liar traits is debatable, but what I’m sure of is this case will go on and on and somehow it will play into his hands. He is always 2 steps ahead of everyone - whether we like it or not unfortunately.
Just like what I'm thinking but he should've thought of something better and don't use a serious status as his reason.

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June 25, 2020, 01:51:18 PM
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Well, if he is truly autistic, that would indeed change a lot. If he's not, it's a very smart move from his lawyers because it's indeed common to mistake people with autism for a**holes... I do hope he's not autistic because I have a sympathy towards autistic people. My spouse has Asperger's, and while he can indeed seem rude and very socially awkward sometimes, it's not the fault of the person if it's the neurological condition that leads to this.
Anyhow, if the court accepted the diagnosis and agreed to take this into account, I really don't think that we'll see justice regarding this guy anytime soon. I don't share your optimism op.

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June 25, 2020, 02:24:42 PM
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He must have a psychiatric illness to tolerate saying such claims, but it is unacceptable that people continue to believe that he is satoshi.

Why are people interested in such news?
he is not Satoshi and therefore all current allegations express a judicial problem that occurred and we do not have to take care of them in bitcoin community.

Mr. Wright is someone like John McAfee and other scammers.
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June 25, 2020, 02:51:20 PM
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I keep wondering why he does that, all the time.
Seriously, how can a person denounce himself like that?
I can only put it down to a mixture of an schizotypal and an narcissistic personality disorder.

It's a serious mental illness... Why isn't anyone helping this man?


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June 25, 2020, 02:54:56 PM
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Was pretty spot on with craig's likeness at the beginning of the month in my assumptions this was him. Cheesy
Imagine dragons and unicorns.
Dedicated to the bad liar. Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8tQL-UaY_Q
So he is claiming autism instead of insanity hoping to get a lesser sentence? Grin

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June 25, 2020, 03:08:11 PM
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So he is claiming autism instead of insanity hoping to get a lesser sentence? Grin
Cheesy insanity will be ridiculous if he claim such. Let say autism is actually the problem of Craig Wright but this won't shield him from being prosecuted accordingly. Another thought, hope this is not another way of defense? We all know him to be a curling individual when it come to court issues. Hope the judge find the appropriate sanctions against him.

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Craig Wright will literally say or do anything if it means being able to keep his lying scam in place.  He's receiving countless dollars in support from idiots who don't know any better, and is clearly willing to sink as low as saying he's got a disease, one that is serious and people struggle with on a daily basis.

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June 25, 2020, 03:14:02 PM
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So he is claiming autism instead of insanity hoping to get a lesser sentence? Grin
Cheesy insanity will be ridiculous if he claim such. Let say autism is actually the problem of Craig Wright but this won't shield him from being prosecuted accordingly. Another thought, hope this is not another way of defense? We all know him to be a curling individual when it come to court issues. Hope the judge find the appropriate sanctions against him.

Obviously, this is his last defense, citing autism for his behaviour, however, it looks like it's too late though.  His web of lies is fully documented even prior to the case and I don't think that the judge will simply handed him down lesser sentences with this new twist.

I'm sure the judge seems enough already, with the drama and all of the stuff. I'm not sure if this sort of defense has precedence, but this is the last straw and it's going to be difficult for his lawyers to bail him out.
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June 25, 2020, 03:38:36 PM
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At this point, they are just trying to make a fool of everyone else and using the mental disorder card to get away with it or to even possibly lower the sentence that CSW might get when he is found (obviously) guilty of all the crimes he committed. Someone with Asperger's or classic autism would not have displayed that kind of personality on Satoshi's interactions with many of the forum members here and outside the forum. CSW is doomed, and they are just trying all the last tricks in their books to get away with their web of lies and deception.

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June 25, 2020, 04:21:44 PM
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This defense from his lawyer sounds childish. How come he has not been able to know this all this while or is this an attempt to escape the long arm of the law and get  some leniency from his lordship! I doubt the lawyer will have evidence to defend this autism claim.
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June 25, 2020, 04:27:37 PM
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I don't think it's good to make fun of Mr. Craig Wright. He's suffering from narcissistic personality disorder, a severe kind of mental illness. All he wanted was some attention. All he was speaking were white lies. No one in sane mind ever believed him. All he need is some medical and psychological assistance. Let's initiate a fund raising to support him for his medical expanses.

Well, I said that a month ago. No wonder most people might have got that without the lawyer explaining it.
Craig is getting all the media attention as the media just wants to gain TRP showing conspiracies and false claim while all the attention Mr. Craig Wright needed all along was medical attention.


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June 25, 2020, 04:29:37 PM
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At this point, they are just trying to make a fool of everyone else and using the mental disorder card to get away with it or to even possibly lower the sentence that CSW might get when he is found (obviously) guilty of all the crimes he committed. Someone with Asperger's or classic autism would not have displayed that kind of personality on Satoshi's interactions with many of the forum members here and outside the forum. CSW is doomed, and they are just trying all the last tricks in their books to get away with their web of lies and deception.
This is the first I have ever heard of anyone trying to use the mental disorder card for a legal case involving them entering into it proclaiming to be a genius, for he is the one who created bitcoin.
Who knew it was someone with autism. Undecided
Now this has become a utter joke and has also come full circle for Mr.Wright.

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June 25, 2020, 04:40:55 PM
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Honestly, I don't know about autism thing, but he's definitely got some issues, only concerning his personality though
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June 25, 2020, 07:39:08 PM
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Craig Wright will literally say or do anything if it means being able to keep his lying scam in place.  He's receiving countless dollars in support from idiots who don't know any better, and is clearly willing to sink as low as saying he's got a disease, one that is serious and people struggle with on a daily basis.
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June 25, 2020, 08:00:35 PM
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to save repeating the obvious from similar tpics
IRA's case is not to dismantle CSW and make to clear that CSW is a pennyless scammer and not satoshi
but instead
this is what IRA's team is requesting as their default judgement
" Plaintiffs  request  the  Court  permit  an  adverse inference instruction as follows: “(1) Wright has committed perjury, produced fabricated evidence, and withheld  relevant  evidence  with  respect  to  whether  (a)  he  and  David  were  partners,  (b)  the activities of their partnership, and (c) the extent of the partnership’s assets; and (2) the jury may, if it so chooses, properly infer from this misconduct that (a) Wright and David entered into a 50/50 partnership  to  develop  blockchain-related  intellectual  property  and  mine  bitcoin,  (b)  any  such intellectual property developed by Wright prior to Dave’s death was property of the partnership, and (c) all bitcoin included in the CSW Filed List is property of the partnership.”

ill summarise
1A) wants judgement that CSW and dave were partners
1B) the activities of the partnership(creating and mining bitcoin)
1C) that the partnership has 820k coins as assets
or
2A) they had a partnership of creating and mining bitcoin
2B) any stuff done before daves death is part of the partnership
2C) all bitcoins in CSW fake list now belong to the partnership


these requested judgements from IRA's team(not CSW) sound very much like CSW's game

so idiots..
can anyone anywhere see any part that shows that IRA is calling CSW a pennyless scammer that never mined nor never created btc

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yes we know he never created it.. but where is IRA pointing out that there was no partnership.. hmm?

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June 25, 2020, 08:54:45 PM
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You are a bit biased, I've always belived that in order to have a fair debate we should abstain from staining the objetivity. While I already agree with your points, I feel it's unfair to present them the way you did.

I don't belive his autism defense, EXACTLY because it was not once brought up, NOT A SINGLE TIME. I also believe that, for Satoshi Nakamoto, it'd be very easy to prove his identity. Sign a transaction with genesis block bitcoins. How hard can it be? But it's too convenient his defenses, time and time again it's up to coincidence. Nothing happens due to coincidence, he's either very unlucky or full of shit, I am inclined for the latter.
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June 25, 2020, 09:49:21 PM
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Honestly, I don't know about autism thing, but he's definitely got some issues, only concerning his personality though

Of course he does. He's a narcissist and a pathological liar. In fact most narcissists are liars, you can check it out in some medical sources.

Only a delusional liar would came up with a story like that. He became autistic as an adult Cheesy Give me a break!

The aspergers defense was weak so he's developed autism.

It looks like he's beginning to drown in the sea of his own lies. Where's the courier that was supposed to bring him the private keys?
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June 25, 2020, 10:03:29 PM
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while all you lot cry and squabble over the stupidity of CSW
your not seeing that its IRA that is also playing CSW game. they are frenemies

IRA wants a default judgement that the claims of CSW/dave being satoshi and creating bitcoin and having 820k coins are all true even without evidence.
or it to go to trial for a jury to judge that dave/CSW were behind bitcoin
win win for csw

oh and when two people are playing a friendly game with money involved but want to hide their private wager /pay off for service.. the one side wanting to get paid for playing will just make requests to the referee to demand foul sanctions in the form of payment from the other side

and suddenly the money to cover IRA's costs is legalised

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reality is in a patent troll case that uses similar tactics.. yep its a real thing.
the troll would pay out his friend who's faking opposition.. but to hide it. they try to put it out in the open as a different reason for payment. EG 'court ordered sanctions'

now IRA can get paid from CSW without revealing the game/bribe

IRA's team has never been on the stance that CSW is a pennyless scammer that never had anything to do with bitcoin
IRA is teamCSW but playing frenemy

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June 26, 2020, 02:41:57 AM
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while all you lot cry and squabble over the stupidity of CSW
your not seeing that its IRA that is also playing CSW game. they are frenemies

IRA wants a default judgement that the claims of CSW/dave being satoshi and creating bitcoin and having 820k coins are all true even without evidence.
or it to go to trial for a jury to judge that dave/CSW were behind bitcoin
win win for csw

oh and when two people are playing a friendly game with money involved but want to hide their private wager /pay off for service.. the one side wanting to get paid for playing will just make requests to the referee to demand foul sanctions in the form of payment from the other side

and suddenly the money to cover IRA's costs is legalised

..
reality is in a patent troll case that uses similar tactics.. yep its a real thing.
the troll would pay out his friend who's faking opposition.. but to hide it. they try to put it out in the open as a different reason for payment. EG 'court ordered sanctions'

now IRA can get paid from CSW without revealing the game/bribe

IRA's team has never been on the stance that CSW is a pennyless scammer that never had anything to do with bitcoin
IRA is teamCSW but playing frenemy

Wait, where did you get that source man? I mean, if they are really trying to make this a facade to fool the judge and the entire community, wouldn't it be dangerous? because if Ira tried to back down, then Craig would win the court and would also win the rights for Bitcoin? This is pretty messed up if this is actually true.
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June 26, 2020, 06:29:09 AM
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Lol so this man’s case is still on going? Why hasn’t the judge passed any judgement yet? Like who doesn’t know that this guy is lying?
Apart from this alone , there are lots of things that he has done and tried to cover up with his lies, but we can clearly see it that all his claims were false. His statement that he’s having Autism is just another lies that his lawyers are now using to cover up for him. They already know that he’s going to lose this case, so they are now looking for excuse to simply cover up for him so that if a sentence is passed, it wouldn’t be too much.

I’m already getting tired of seeing news about him almost every time. They better be fast and finalize his case so that this community will feel sure about claiming of real satoshi drama cases as well will not be having any chances in favor of fake people.

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June 26, 2020, 07:42:38 AM
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Wait, where did you get that source man? I mean, if they are really trying to make this a facade to fool the judge and the entire community, wouldn't it be dangerous? because if Ira tried to back down, then Craig would win the court and would also win the rights for Bitcoin? This is pretty messed up if this is actually true.

in a previous post where i summerised IRA's request for a default judgement it came from
ira's recent filing
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.595.0.pdf
you can see it on like page 19&20. but ill quote it here to save time
ira wants the judge to
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First, deem the following facts established: “(1) Dr. Wright and Dave [Kleiman] entered into a 50/50 partnership to develop blockchain-related intellectual property and mine bitcoin; (2) all  bitcoin  (and  forked  assets)  included  in  the  CSW  Filed  List  is, and  remains,  property  of  the partnership; and (3) any such intellectual property developed by Wright prior to Dave’s death is, and remains, property of the partnership.” Id.at 24. According to Plaintiffs, Defendant’s alleged misconduct has made it “extremely difficult to rely on any evidence produced by Wright in this action—including his own statements—to support any fact at issue in this litigation.” Id.Thus, this alternative sanction “cures the wrongdoing.” Id.Second,  as  an alternative,  Plaintiffs  request  the  Court  permit  an  adverse inference instruction as follows: “(1) Wright has committed perjury, produced fabricated evidence, and withheld  relevant  evidence  with  respect  to  whether  (a)  he  and  David  were  partners,  (b)  the activities of their partnership, and (c) the extent of the partnership’s assets; and (2) the jury may, if it so chooses, properly infer from this misconduct that (a) Wright and David entered into a 50/50 partnership  to  develop  blockchain-related  intellectual  property  and  mine  bitcoin,  (b)  any  such
intellectual property developed by Wright prior to Dave’s death was property of the partnership, and (c) all bitcoin included in the CSW Filed List is property of the partnership.”

basically 'first'
1. deem that CSW and dave did have a partnership
2.all bitcoins and altcoins listed by CSW ramain property of the partnership
3. all intellectual property of the partnership remain property of partnership
(basically validate a trust and assert they are satoshi without proof but infer it due to lack of proof(facepalm))
'second'
judge that CSW lack of evidence of
1a) CSW and dave were partners
1b)the activities of the partnership (claim they were satoshi)
1c)there are 820k bitcoins 'somewhere'
must result in
2a) jury to give default verdict that there was a partnership of creating bitcoin
2b) jury to give a verdict that bitcoin and other creations are part of the partnership
2c) jury to give default verdict all coins in CSW fake list then become the partners property

yep no evidence. but just wanting a judge/jury to give a verdict that then makes it 'their property' (facepalm)

no where has IRA's team tried to clam that CSW is a pennyless scammer. they are both playing the same side of trying to get a judges order that flows in favour to making the 'trust a valuable asset based on judges rule. not reality fact. trying to make it that by 'law' craig invented bitcoin. not by reality fact. but by judges rule
and IRA has not made claim that would result in any actual punishment for CSW

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He’s a fraudster, he’s a con-man & a charlatan, a total bull shitter but no, he isn’t autistic. Seriously how is this guy still relevant, I hope they lock him up for a good few years.

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June 27, 2020, 05:29:11 AM
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Autistic?NO.  Pathological liar?YES!
Craig Wright needs to visit a psychic doctor and try to put his "pathological liar disorder"(or whatever they call it) under control.
It's good to know that absolutely nobody in the cryptocurrency world trusts CJW anymore.He shot himself in the foot with all the insane claims about being Satoshi Nakamoto,while failing to prove that and all the BS talking.
His claims about being autistic are an insult to all the people,who really have autism and are struggling every day.
 

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June 27, 2020, 09:54:02 AM
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I hope they lock him up for a good few years.

Personally, I don't believe that this scammer will see prison, especially if the whole story now turns in the direction of some disease that makes him do what he does. I sincerely doubt that he will not cook some more strange things from Faketoshi's kitchen, so we can expect him to claim that he actually came from the future or was the subject of alien abductions.

Things should be very easy to prove when it comes to Bitcoin, and all that circus is just proof that individuals can manipulate the system indefinitely, of course if they have the money for good lawyers.

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When I read the word autism the first thing that goes in my mind was the movie series called "The Good Doctor"
I was going to make some parody about the debate on the first episode if they are going to accept Dr. Shaun because of his autism but I am a bit lazy to do it I am just going to wait for someone else to do it  Grin .
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June 27, 2020, 02:00:20 PM
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wouldnt he need to produce the medical records that shows that diagnosis? privately to the judge of course.

cuz in medical, if it aint documented in your chart, its not a legal diagnosis, just someones opinion.
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June 27, 2020, 02:38:16 PM
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As a normal person, I am convinced that Craig Wright is lying that he has autism, moreover the judge must be more convinced
that Craig Wright trying to ease sanctions. By pretending to suffer from autism, everyone is upset with all the lies that Craig Wright
made. Hopefully the judge can prove that Craig Wright is lying, if it is proven that Craig Wright is lying by using autism. So in addition
to the sanctions being heavier, I'm sure Craig Wright will also get social sanctions from the community.

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Franky1, you keep going on about Ira's position is playing along with wright's con.  ... What you are missing is that everyone already knows that and doesn't care.

Wright says that "My buddy and I made bitcoin and mined 800k coins!". Ira says "oh, okay then, so hand over our share".  And then wright is fucked because he could easily escape but only by admitting his con.

Ignoring the tastelessness of wright's continual necrophilia (his fixation on roping unwilling dead people into his con), this seems completely apt to me.

The kleiman estate is entitled to take Wright's word where it benefits them to do.  I doubt they actually believe Wright's story, though they might believe that wright owed dave for other reasons.  But this is the cost of telling outrageous lies: you might be held to them and their consequences.

They've done a *tremendous* public service unearthing, exposing, and debunking wright's fraud.

True, it would be better for the public if they were invested in exposing Wright completely... but if wishes were horses then beggars would ride.

There is more direct litigation but because it's happening in the UK there isn't the same tradition of public access.  I've heard that it's benefited a ton from the documents and research made available in the kleiman v wright case.
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I think CSW realizes he is losing the court battle at this point and is desperately trying to cover himself and flee the battlefield, but it looks like he's sustaining a lot of injuries doing that. He is basically trying to say "I'm autistic, that's why I did a bunch of insane things like committing perjury" and the very fact he is using this as an excuse hints he's tired of racking up attorney's fees in court.

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June 28, 2020, 12:37:49 AM
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I know autistic is a hard situation but if you can see at the movement and the things do by wright it is not autism. IMO this is just tactics to escape all the things he does to the people. By the things he did and also many people are getting angry on him and do not support him anymore so the only thing he could do is to make a reverse process or change the mind of the people about him and after this issue, you can see he will back to normal life and earning and pretend to know everything.

I think CSW realizes he is losing the court battle at this point and is desperately trying to cover himself and flee the battlefield, but it looks like he's sustaining a lot of injuries doing that. He is basically trying to say "I'm autistic, that's why I did a bunch of insane things like committing perjury" and the very fact he is using this as an excuse hints he's tired of racking up attorney's fees in court.

Pretending to be sick may lower the penalty you will get or the issue dismiss and dump the case easily and this is the best way to escape all the things you are facing, this issue is temporary and after this, we can not remember again by the people.

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June 28, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
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Franky1, you keep going on about Ira's position is playing along with wright's con.  ... What you are missing is that everyone already knows that and doesn't care.

but what everyone keeps missing is the fact that ira is not actually doing much on the deception part.

IRA IS saying:
CSW is not proving he was part of 'satoshi' so we need to sanction him by validating that he was part of 'satoshi' as his punishment
IRA IS NOT saying:
'CSW is not proving he was part of 'satoshi' thus a pennyless scammer unable to afford compensation, so transfer case to criminal court with imprisonment punishment available'

see the difference??

we both know any 'compensation' is done AFTER judgement. we both know IRA can just say ''yea i got paid judge, no further action required' and they both move on destroying bitcoin now they been deemed the owner.. it no longer about the 820k coin its about the IP

its not a case of 'ok hand over half the coin' its ok judge make it legal that CS created bitcoin as his punishment

your posturing that people should concentrate on the social drama of iras team calling CSW a deceiver. yet it is just social drama of no negative consequence to CSW. .. the deceiver social drama is the obvious thing that everyone knows and doesnt care about as its just obvious

i know you and your flock think of bitcoin as just an experiment and dont care if it fails because 'thats what can happen in experiments'
but many people do actually care. again i dont think your one of those caring types. to you its just an income mechanism success or failure

but its the claim that IRA wants CSW to be the bitcoin creator.. as his punishment(facepalm), that people should concentrate and care about

its kind of weird that you and a few others known that follow you. seem to be ignoring the parts where IRA is requesting CSW to be made the bitcoin creator. its weird that you now just post that you think no one cares.
its weird that you want people to only discuss or think about the 'ira reveals CSW is a deceiver' part and not the IRA AND CSW are both trying to get the judge to legalise CSW as the creator

very weird indeed

but heck. seems you are again showing your lack of care for the future of bitcoin. yet again. and care more for the commercial benefit of hidden investors that want to abuse bitcoin later. yet again.
so because i dont care about merit. ill award you 50 merit for showing your usual style of not caring about bitcoins future

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June 28, 2020, 08:40:20 AM
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The law excuses no one, and obviously that was only Wright's excuse for him to get away with his latest problem.
The guy has influence the market really hard, that's why he is popular and now that his tricks were already discovered, then he should pay for the damages.

When I was new in crypto, I admire him, but over time, I learned that he can't be trust and that he is only playing the investors with his false claims that he is satoshi and he is in control of the BTC.

He also claimed.

https://news.bitcoin.com/craig-wright-claims-satoshi-nakamoto-never-used-bitcointalk-to-communicate/

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Interesting video. I get his point that if he really was Satoshi  then why does he have to prove or show anything to anyone - he has a right to privacy. I just wish we could know the truth. If he is not Satoshi then why is he doing this? Maybe he is trying to weed the real Satoshi out
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Interesting video. I get his point that if he really was Satoshi  then why does he have to prove or show anything to anyone - he has a right to privacy. I just wish we could know the truth. If he is not Satoshi then why is he doing this? Maybe he is trying to weed the real Satoshi out

no he wants to be claimed as being satoshi. so he can ruin bitcoin for his own profits
he is not satoshi though.. never was
he didnt even know satoshi. wasnt even around when satoshi was.
and has no proof of being satoshi, never did.
so he is playing the deception card AS IF he is satoshi and just avoiding proving it.

and now his buddy is using this game to get a judge to validate that he was satoshi..
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CSW never has been satoshi, never mined prior to 2014 and does not deserve the accolade both CSW and IRA are fighting for.
but if he gets it. he will patent troll bitcoin into failure

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https://cointelegraph.com/news/judge-accepts-craig-wrights-autism-defense-says-no-to-sanctions

Whatever the man did , we all know , to sum up now his lawyers tried to prove that he is Autistic and thus trail shouldn't be harsh and all .

Now the judge is seriously pissed off and he apparently is not gonna leave the man , even though he did accept the Autism defense , sanctions were kicked out of the picture.
This is an insult to His own reputation,accepting to be autistic ?damn I imagine how He can sleep at night knowing that you are a declared autistic?

How many stupidity His depense need to do before finally accept that He is a Loser in this battle?

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This came out to be a little funny , Autistic? Is he mocking the community?  Autism is no joke , I have seen people struggling day and night to do a simple task in regards to that , you don't have Autism if it suddenly appeared after death of your best friend when you are in your 40's.
actually this is not Him Mocking the Community but it is the other way around,because now we can Laugh at Him face to face knowing that He accepts to be the one .

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The symptoms usually Begin at the age of 2 or before that , therefore I do think he would have had some support and proof regarding the same.


This Man is a proven liar so how can we expect them doing everything just to make things look like legit?

He can even provide proofs of everything because He is a very rich and powerful person.
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