We finally are going to get justice in regards to Mr. Wright

[Mbitr]

Craig Wright will literally say or do anything if it means being able to keep his lying scam in place.  He's receiving countless dollars in support from idiots who don't know any better, and is clearly willing to sink as low as saying he's got a disease, one that is serious and people struggle with on a daily basis.

That’s the problem in a nutshell - when you’re backed into a corner, you’ve only got one choice and that’s to fight with whatever you’ve got !

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[franky1]

to save repeating the obvious from similar tpics
IRA's case is not to dismantle CSW and make to clear that CSW is a pennyless scammer and not satoshi
but instead

this is what IRA's team is requesting as their default judgement
" Plaintiffs  request  the  Court  permit  an  adverse inference instruction as follows: “(1) Wright has committed perjury, produced fabricated evidence, and withheld  relevant  evidence  with  respect  to  whether  (a)  he  and  David  were  partners,  (b)  the activities of their partnership, and (c) the extent of the partnership’s assets; and (2) the jury may, if it so chooses, properly infer from this misconduct that (a) Wright and David entered into a 50/50 partnership  to  develop  blockchain-related  intellectual  property  and  mine  bitcoin,  (b)  any  such intellectual property developed by Wright prior to Dave’s death was property of the partnership, and (c) all bitcoin included in the CSW Filed List is property of the partnership.”

ill summarise
1A) wants judgement that CSW and dave were partners
1B) the activities of the partnership(creating and mining bitcoin)
1C) that the partnership has 820k coins as assets
or
2A) they had a partnership of creating and mining bitcoin
2B) any stuff done before daves death is part of the partnership
2C) all bitcoins in CSW fake list now belong to the partnership


these requested judgements from IRA's team(not CSW) sound very much like CSW's game

so idiots..
can anyone anywhere see any part that shows that IRA is calling CSW a pennyless scammer that never mined nor never created btc

..
yes we know he never created it.. but where is IRA pointing out that there was no partnership.. hmm?

[kezinaur14]

You are a bit biased, I've always belived that in order to have a fair debate we should abstain from staining the objetivity. While I already agree with your points, I feel it's unfair to present them the way you did.

I don't belive his autism defense, EXACTLY because it was not once brought up, NOT A SINGLE TIME. I also believe that, for Satoshi Nakamoto, it'd be very easy to prove his identity. Sign a transaction with genesis block bitcoins. How hard can it be? But it's too convenient his defenses, time and time again it's up to coincidence. Nothing happens due to coincidence, he's either very unlucky or full of shit, I am inclined for the latter.

[pixie85]

Honestly, I don't know about autism thing, but he's definitely got some issues, only concerning his personality though

Of course he does. He's a narcissist and a pathological liar. In fact most narcissists are liars, you can check it out in some medical sources.

Only a delusional liar would came up with a story like that. He became autistic as an adult Give me a break!

The aspergers defense was weak so he's developed autism.

It looks like he's beginning to drown in the sea of his own lies. Where's the courier that was supposed to bring him the private keys?

[franky1]

while all you lot cry and squabble over the stupidity of CSW
your not seeing that its IRA that is also playing CSW game. they are frenemies

IRA wants a default judgement that the claims of CSW/dave being satoshi and creating bitcoin and having 820k coins are all true even without evidence.
or it to go to trial for a jury to judge that dave/CSW were behind bitcoin
win win for csw

oh and when two people are playing a friendly game with money involved but want to hide their private wager /pay off for service.. the one side wanting to get paid for playing will just make requests to the referee to demand foul sanctions in the form of payment from the other side

and suddenly the money to cover IRA's costs is legalised

..
reality is in a patent troll case that uses similar tactics.. yep its a real thing.
the troll would pay out his friend who's faking opposition.. but to hide it. they try to put it out in the open as a different reason for payment. EG 'court ordered sanctions'

now IRA can get paid from CSW without revealing the game/bribe

IRA's team has never been on the stance that CSW is a pennyless scammer that never had anything to do with bitcoin
IRA is teamCSW but playing frenemy

[meanwords]

while all you lot cry and squabble over the stupidity of CSW
your not seeing that its IRA that is also playing CSW game. they are frenemies

IRA wants a default judgement that the claims of CSW/dave being satoshi and creating bitcoin and having 820k coins are all true even without evidence.
or it to go to trial for a jury to judge that dave/CSW were behind bitcoin
win win for csw

oh and when two people are playing a friendly game with money involved but want to hide their private wager /pay off for service.. the one side wanting to get paid for playing will just make requests to the referee to demand foul sanctions in the form of payment from the other side

and suddenly the money to cover IRA's costs is legalised

..
reality is in a patent troll case that uses similar tactics.. yep its a real thing.
the troll would pay out his friend who's faking opposition.. but to hide it. they try to put it out in the open as a different reason for payment. EG 'court ordered sanctions'

now IRA can get paid from CSW without revealing the game/bribe

IRA's team has never been on the stance that CSW is a pennyless scammer that never had anything to do with bitcoin
IRA is teamCSW but playing frenemy

Wait, where did you get that source man? I mean, if they are really trying to make this a facade to fool the judge and the entire community, wouldn't it be dangerous? because if Ira tried to back down, then Craig would win the court and would also win the rights for Bitcoin? This is pretty messed up if this is actually true.

[TheGreatPython]

Lol so this man’s case is still on going? Why hasn’t the judge passed any judgement yet? Like who doesn’t know that this guy is lying?
Apart from this alone , there are lots of things that he has done and tried to cover up with his lies, but we can clearly see it that all his claims were false. His statement that he’s having Autism is just another lies that his lawyers are now using to cover up for him. They already know that he’s going to lose this case, so they are now looking for excuse to simply cover up for him so that if a sentence is passed, it wouldn’t be too much.

I’m already getting tired of seeing news about him almost every time. They better be fast and finalize his case so that this community will feel sure about claiming of real satoshi drama cases as well will not be having any chances in favor of fake people.

[franky1]

Wait, where did you get that source man? I mean, if they are really trying to make this a facade to fool the judge and the entire community, wouldn't it be dangerous? because if Ira tried to back down, then Craig would win the court and would also win the rights for Bitcoin? This is pretty messed up if this is actually true.

in a previous post where i summerised IRA's request for a default judgement it came from
ira's recent filing
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.595.0.pdf
you can see it on like page 19&20. but ill quote it here to save time
ira wants the judge to

First, deem the following facts established: “(1) Dr. Wright and Dave [Kleiman] entered into a 50/50 partnership to develop blockchain-related intellectual property and mine bitcoin; (2) all  bitcoin  (and  forked  assets)  included  in  the  CSW  Filed  List  is, and  remains,  property  of  the partnership; and (3) any such intellectual property developed by Wright prior to Dave’s death is, and remains, property of the partnership.” Id.at 24. According to Plaintiffs, Defendant’s alleged misconduct has made it “extremely difficult to rely on any evidence produced by Wright in this action—including his own statements—to support any fact at issue in this litigation.” Id.Thus, this alternative sanction “cures the wrongdoing.” Id.Second,  as  an alternative,  Plaintiffs  request  the  Court  permit  an  adverse inference instruction as follows: “(1) Wright has committed perjury, produced fabricated evidence, and withheld  relevant  evidence  with  respect  to  whether  (a)  he  and  David  were  partners,  (b)  the activities of their partnership, and (c) the extent of the partnership’s assets; and (2) the jury may, if it so chooses, properly infer from this misconduct that (a) Wright and David entered into a 50/50 partnership  to  develop  blockchain-related  intellectual  property  and  mine  bitcoin,  (b)  any  such
intellectual property developed by Wright prior to Dave’s death was property of the partnership, and (c) all bitcoin included in the CSW Filed List is property of the partnership.”

basically 'first'
1. deem that CSW and dave did have a partnership
2.all bitcoins and altcoins listed by CSW ramain property of the partnership
3. all intellectual property of the partnership remain property of partnership
(basically validate a trust and assert they are satoshi without proof but infer it due to lack of proof(facepalm))
'second'
judge that CSW lack of evidence of
1a) CSW and dave were partners
1b)the activities of the partnership (claim they were satoshi)
1c)there are 820k bitcoins 'somewhere'
must result in
2a) jury to give default verdict that there was a partnership of creating bitcoin
2b) jury to give a verdict that bitcoin and other creations are part of the partnership
2c) jury to give default verdict all coins in CSW fake list then become the partners property

yep no evidence. but just wanting a judge/jury to give a verdict that then makes it 'their property' (facepalm)

no where has IRA's team tried to clam that CSW is a pennyless scammer. they are both playing the same side of trying to get a judges order that flows in favour to making the 'trust a valuable asset based on judges rule. not reality fact. trying to make it that by 'law' craig invented bitcoin. not by reality fact. but by judges rule
and IRA has not made claim that would result in any actual punishment for CSW

[DeathAngel]

He’s a fraudster, he’s a con-man & a charlatan, a total bull shitter but no, he isn’t autistic. Seriously how is this guy still relevant, I hope they lock him up for a good few years.

[davis196]

Autistic?NO.  Pathological liar?YES!
Craig Wright needs to visit a psychic doctor and try to put his "pathological liar disorder"(or whatever they call it) under control.
It's good to know that absolutely nobody in the cryptocurrency world trusts CJW anymore.He shot himself in the foot with all the insane claims about being Satoshi Nakamoto,while failing to prove that and all the BS talking.
His claims about being autistic are an insult to all the people,who really have autism and are struggling every day.
 

[Lucius]

I hope they lock him up for a good few years.

Personally, I don't believe that this scammer will see prison, especially if the whole story now turns in the direction of some disease that makes him do what he does. I sincerely doubt that he will not cook some more strange things from Faketoshi's kitchen, so we can expect him to claim that he actually came from the future or was the subject of alien abductions.

Things should be very easy to prove when it comes to Bitcoin, and all that circus is just proof that individuals can manipulate the system indefinitely, of course if they have the money for good lawyers.

[supine]

When I read the word autism the first thing that goes in my mind was the movie series called "The Good Doctor"
I was going to make some parody about the debate on the first episode if they are going to accept Dr. Shaun because of his autism but I am a bit lazy to do it I am just going to wait for someone else to do it  .

[vapourminer]

wouldnt he need to produce the medical records that shows that diagnosis? privately to the judge of course.

cuz in medical, if it aint documented in your chart, its not a legal diagnosis, just someones opinion.

[MCobian]

As a normal person, I am convinced that Craig Wright is lying that he has autism, moreover the judge must be more convinced
that Craig Wright trying to ease sanctions. By pretending to suffer from autism, everyone is upset with all the lies that Craig Wright
made. Hopefully the judge can prove that Craig Wright is lying, if it is proven that Craig Wright is lying by using autism. So in addition
to the sanctions being heavier, I'm sure Craig Wright will also get social sanctions from the community.

[gmaxwell]

Franky1, you keep going on about Ira's position is playing along with wright's con.  ... What you are missing is that everyone already knows that and doesn't care.

Wright says that "My buddy and I made bitcoin and mined 800k coins!". Ira says "oh, okay then, so hand over our share".  And then wright is fucked because he could easily escape but only by admitting his con.

Ignoring the tastelessness of wright's continual necrophilia (his fixation on roping unwilling dead people into his con), this seems completely apt to me.

The kleiman estate is entitled to take Wright's word where it benefits them to do.  I doubt they actually believe Wright's story, though they might believe that wright owed dave for other reasons.  But this is the cost of telling outrageous lies: you might be held to them and their consequences.

They've done a *tremendous* public service unearthing, exposing, and debunking wright's fraud.

True, it would be better for the public if they were invested in exposing Wright completely... but if wishes were horses then beggars would ride.

There is more direct litigation but because it's happening in the UK there isn't the same tradition of public access.  I've heard that it's benefited a ton from the documents and research made available in the kleiman v wright case.

[NotATether]

I think CSW realizes he is losing the court battle at this point and is desperately trying to cover himself and flee the battlefield, but it looks like he's sustaining a lot of injuries doing that. He is basically trying to say "I'm autistic, that's why I did a bunch of insane things like committing perjury" and the very fact he is using this as an excuse hints he's tired of racking up attorney's fees in court.

[Assface16678]

I know autistic is a hard situation but if you can see at the movement and the things do by wright it is not autism. IMO this is just tactics to escape all the things he does to the people. By the things he did and also many people are getting angry on him and do not support him anymore so the only thing he could do is to make a reverse process or change the mind of the people about him and after this issue, you can see he will back to normal life and earning and pretend to know everything.

I think CSW realizes he is losing the court battle at this point and is desperately trying to cover himself and flee the battlefield, but it looks like he's sustaining a lot of injuries doing that. He is basically trying to say "I'm autistic, that's why I did a bunch of insane things like committing perjury" and the very fact he is using this as an excuse hints he's tired of racking up attorney's fees in court.

Pretending to be sick may lower the penalty you will get or the issue dismiss and dump the case easily and this is the best way to escape all the things you are facing, this issue is temporary and after this, we can not remember again by the people.

[franky1]

Franky1, you keep going on about Ira's position is playing along with wright's con.  ... What you are missing is that everyone already knows that and doesn't care.

but what everyone keeps missing is the fact that ira is not actually doing much on the deception part.

IRA IS saying:
CSW is not proving he was part of 'satoshi' so we need to sanction him by validating that he was part of 'satoshi' as his punishment
IRA IS NOT saying:
'CSW is not proving he was part of 'satoshi' thus a pennyless scammer unable to afford compensation, so transfer case to criminal court with imprisonment punishment available'

see the difference??

we both know any 'compensation' is done AFTER judgement. we both know IRA can just say ''yea i got paid judge, no further action required' and they both move on destroying bitcoin now they been deemed the owner.. it no longer about the 820k coin its about the IP

its not a case of 'ok hand over half the coin' its ok judge make it legal that CS created bitcoin as his punishment

your posturing that people should concentrate on the social drama of iras team calling CSW a deceiver. yet it is just social drama of no negative consequence to CSW. .. the deceiver social drama is the obvious thing that everyone knows and doesnt care about as its just obvious

i know you and your flock think of bitcoin as just an experiment and dont care if it fails because 'thats what can happen in experiments'
but many people do actually care. again i dont think your one of those caring types. to you its just an income mechanism success or failure

but its the claim that IRA wants CSW to be the bitcoin creator.. as his punishment(facepalm), that people should concentrate and care about

its kind of weird that you and a few others known that follow you. seem to be ignoring the parts where IRA is requesting CSW to be made the bitcoin creator. its weird that you now just post that you think no one cares.
its weird that you want people to only discuss or think about the 'ira reveals CSW is a deceiver' part and not the IRA AND CSW are both trying to get the judge to legalise CSW as the creator

very weird indeed

but heck. seems you are again showing your lack of care for the future of bitcoin. yet again. and care more for the commercial benefit of hidden investors that want to abuse bitcoin later. yet again.
so because i dont care about merit. ill award you 50 merit for showing your usual style of not caring about bitcoins future

[Japinat]

The law excuses no one, and obviously that was only Wright's excuse for him to get away with his latest problem.
The guy has influence the market really hard, that's why he is popular and now that his tricks were already discovered, then he should pay for the damages.

When I was new in crypto, I admire him, but over time, I learned that he can't be trust and that he is only playing the investors with his false claims that he is satoshi and he is in control of the BTC.

He also claimed.

https://news.bitcoin.com/craig-wright-claims-satoshi-nakamoto-never-used-bitcointalk-to-communicate/

[amnakhan2020]

Interesting video. I get his point that if he really was Satoshi  then why does he have to prove or show anything to anyone - he has a right to privacy. I just wish we could know the truth. If he is not Satoshi then why is he doing this? Maybe he is trying to weed the real Satoshi out