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June 27, 2020, 12:25:40 PM
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I just found a member which distrusts Satoshi. More important: he is the only one distrusting Satoshi! I proudly present you presduterte!

And he is distrusting Satoshi since the third week of existence of LoyceV's Custom Trust List, meaning from February 3rd, 2019. Even more curious is the fact that presduterte does not trust any user's judgement and, excepting Satoshi, he doesn't distrust anyone else. Like his sole purpose is to make it obvious that he really doesn't trust Satoshi!

I tried to look over his post history, to see what derermined him to consider Satoshi untrustworthy and what I found is even more intriguing. The user promotes BTC over BCH and also expressed his opinion of CSW being a fraud. In theory, these judgement would make him a fan of Satoshi, not someone not trusting him.

Therefore I believe that he has some mental disorders or he does not know what he did -- meaning that maybe he wanted to add Satoshi to his Trust List but instead he added him to the distrust list.

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June 27, 2020, 12:35:00 PM
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The user logged in the account on 11 June. He has still been around the corner so I think you can try with PM to ask him and his clarification.

You could be wright and could be wrong.

Support BTC does not automatically mean that he trust Satoshi. Someone can love the forum but distrust theymos.

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June 27, 2020, 12:42:43 PM
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Therefore I believe that he has some mental disorders or he does not know what he did -- meaning that maybe he wanted to add Satoshi to his Trust List but instead he added him to the distrust list.

Ideas Huh
At first glance, my first assumption is that he is a Filipino because I strongly believe that his name was derived from Pres. Rodrigo Duterte (our current president) but I am not sure of it because there are tendencies that it was just a coincidence. So I visit his post history to find more clues and yeah I found out that he is a Filipino for real — no doubt. Read this post

In my point of view, he was a troublesome member. The way he post seems so rude for me. I don't even know what's wrong with him. Nevertheless, on behalf of the Filipino community, I want to say sorry. This is so embarassing for all of us because my fellow countrymen became the only one who distrust satoshi. What a shame! Undecided
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June 27, 2020, 12:57:19 PM
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At first glance, my first assumption is that he is a Filipino because I strongly believe that his name was derived from Pres. Rodrigo Duterte (our current president) but I am not sure of it because there are tendencies that it was just a coincidence. So I visit his post history to find more clues and yeah I found out that he is a Filipino for real — no doubt. Read this post
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+1 on this, it's my first thought after I saw the username.
 I am 100% sure this user is dummy account of other users since selecting a kind of username in this forum, nonsense username.

Second, for me, it does not matter if this user distrust satoshi since it's what custom trust list is made for, you can make your own list, the user/s that you trust or don't trust. Maybe this user got some reason why he/she doesn't trust satoshi? OR this user just has mistaken only where satoshi should belong to a trusted list.

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At first glance, my first assumption is that he is a Filipino because I strongly believe that his name was derived from Pres. Rodrigo Duterte (our current president) but I am not sure of it because there are tendencies that it was just a coincidence. So I visit his post history to find more clues and yeah I found out that he is a Filipino for real — no doubt. Read this post

In my point of view, he was a troublesome member. The way he post seems so rude for me. I don't even know what's wrong with him. Nevertheless, on behalf of the Filipino community, I want to say sorry. This is so embarassing for all of us because my fellow countrymen became the only one who distrust satoshi. What a shame! Undecided
No, we can't really tell if this account was on the hand of a Filipino member, the post you are referring to was just a sarcastic post, more likely he is just portraying he was the President the way he addressed replies. You don't have to feel sorry it hasn't been concluded yet, yep, it was really a curious case distrusting the creator, he's the rare type.

Don't worry the user isn't that eccentric as it was and he love YouTube. Ahhhh, how amiable.
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June 27, 2020, 01:09:52 PM
Last edit: June 27, 2020, 01:46:42 PM by Lucius
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Completely irrelevant case, it is not a DT member and whom he trusts or does not trust is irrelevant. To me, this most closely resembles an attempt to attract attention in the sense that he was the first to do so - or perhaps it was just a misunderstood use of the sign ~. I'm sure a lot of BCH/BSV trolls and crypto haters would generally do the same, but they're not at all aware that it's possible to do something like that.



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June 27, 2020, 01:14:20 PM
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In my point of view, he was a troublesome member. The way he post seems so rude for me. I don't even know what's wrong with him. Nevertheless, on behalf of the Filipino community, I want to say sorry. This is so embarassing for all of us because my fellow countrymen became the only one who distrust satoshi. What a shame! Undecided

This is a rare sign of education and common sense which I didn't see lately. Your post, which I believe is sincere and expresses a true regret, really touched me! Don't lose this spirit man, it is a rara avis! I take my hat off in front of such good manners.

The user logged in the account on 11 June. He has still been around the corner so I think you can try with PM to ask him and his clarification.

Hehe thanks for the tip! Just did it. Let's see if he joins our conversation here.

OP can you edit that huge picture? Some members are on very slow or limited internet, and threads like this are loading very slow for them.

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June 27, 2020, 01:29:31 PM
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I'm more surprised that 112 users included satoshi, who hasn't left a single feedback and doesn't have a custom Trust list. I don't recognize most of the usernames (many registered before me). It doesn't fit this though:
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List the users who you trust to have good trust ratings and good trust lists

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I tried to look over his post history, to see what derermined him to consider Satoshi untrustworthy and what I found is even more intriguing. The user promotes BTC over BCH and also expressed his opinion of CSW being a fraud. In theory, these judgement would make him a fan of Satoshi, not someone not trusting him.

Therefore I believe that he has some mental disorders or he does not know what he did -- meaning that maybe he wanted to add Satoshi to his Trust List but instead he added him to the distrust list.

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presduterte is a bit of a contrarian troll but a good one (i.e. the trolling is fairly intelligent and not merely calling your mom a whore). I don't think distrusting satoshi is a sign of a mental disorder. Using Bitcoin doesn't require you to trust the person (or the group of CIA operatives or whatever) who created it, that's pretty much the idea behind it. And most of us here don't know satoshi to any significant extent to form an opinion about his judgement.

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Therefore I believe that he has some mental disorders or he does not know what he did -- meaning that maybe he wanted to add Satoshi to his Trust List but instead he added him to the distrust list.

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There could be two things either he is not aware of the trust system and how it works  or maybe he purposely did it to get some fame and attention as he is getting now (although there are less chances of it). I would be waiting to see his point of view if he replies on this thread.
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Therefore I believe that he has some mental disorders or he does not know what he did -- meaning that maybe he wanted to add Satoshi to his Trust List but instead he added him to the distrust list.

Ideas Huh
At first glance, my first assumption is that he is a Filipino because I strongly believe that his name was derived from Pres. Rodrigo Duterte (our current president) but I am not sure of it because there are tendencies that it was just a coincidence. So I visit his post history to find more clues and yeah I found out that he is a Filipino for real — no doubt. Read this post

In my point of view, he was a troublesome member. The way he post seems so rude for me. I don't even know what's wrong with him. Nevertheless, on behalf of the Filipino community, I want to say sorry. This is so embarassing for all of us because my fellow countrymen became the only one who distrust satoshi. What a shame! Undecided

there's is no need to feel sorry about. that person's distrust to satoshi will not amount to anything and him knowing that someone is sorry because of his action will just boost his ego.

Therefore I believe that he has some mental disorders or he does not know what he did -- meaning that maybe he wanted to add Satoshi to his Trust List but instead he added him to the distrust list.

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Nah, there are people who get satisfaction by causing any type of problem no matter how big or small it is. people like that should not be entertained since we'll just feed his ego

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Using Bitcoin doesn't require you to trust the person (or the group of CIA operatives or whatever) who created it, that's pretty much the idea behind it.
If you put it like this, I like the statement he makes by excluding satoshi. Don't Trust. Verify. (original source unknown)

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At first glance, my first assumption is that he is a Filipino because I strongly believe that his name was derived from Pres. Rodrigo Duterte (our current president) but I am not sure of it because there are tendencies that it was just a coincidence. So I visit his post history to find more clues and yeah I found out that he is a Filipino for real — no doubt. Read this post

In my point of view, he was a troublesome member. The way he post seems so rude for me. I don't even know what's wrong with him. Nevertheless, on behalf of the Filipino community, I want to say sorry. This is so embarassing for all of us because my fellow countrymen became the only one who distrust satoshi. What a shame! Undecided
No, we can't really tell if this account was on the hand of a Filipino member, the post you are referring to was just a sarcastic post, more likely he is just portraying he was the President the way he addressed replies. You don't have to feel sorry it hasn't been concluded yet, yep, it was really a curious case distrusting the creator, he's the rare type.
As much as I think of it too, but then there is a high possibility that this user is a Filipino because of his username. Hmmm can't think of any reason why he would distrust Satoshi though, he can't gain nothing on it but this thread talking about him, don't tell me he just needs a recognition from us lol. But then it is his judgment to Satoshi, he distrusts him because of his own will, I hope he got a good and reasonable basis on doing it.

Don't worry the user isn't that eccentric as it was and he love YouTube. Ahhhh, how amiable.
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I'm really curious about this guy, can we stop talking about him? he's just getting what he wanted.

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He seems to be active even though he doesn't post often. His last post dates back to 11 June but he was online today. He probably saw the email notification that he received a PM from GazetaBitcoin and came online to check what it was. Whatever his reasoning for distrusting Satoshi, it doesn't really matter nor does it change anything. 

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June 27, 2020, 08:12:09 PM
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He does not want to participate in the trust system. He has no other inclusions nor exclusions in his trust list. Trust lists must have at least one entry.
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June 27, 2020, 08:35:14 PM
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We are a community of members from all walks of life so it's obvious there will be that one person or group of people who will do quite the opposite of what most people expect. We can't do anything about it since it's their choice... Their exclusion of Satoshi doesn't matter either, just like the untrusted negative feedbacks that were left on Satoshi's profile by a couple of members

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June 27, 2020, 10:07:40 PM
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It's within his right to trust or distrust whoever he wants. We should not judge him because of it.
Discussing why he did it is another matter. The guy doesn't seem to be ignorant about how the forum and the trust system works.

What matters most is that distrusting Satoshi won't change a thing as the latter is unlikely to come back and become active again.
Maybe it's his way to not see any feedback by default!

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June 27, 2020, 10:52:30 PM
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I'm actually surprised that there is just one negative feedback on satoshi profile. Don't understand me wrong, but we all know that forum is full of trolls, haters, BCH shills and toxic users in general, so it's a bit strange.
About this case, I doubt there is serious reason behind it. Maybe user just wanted to "play" with trust system a bit or wanted just to get attention to his name by distrusting satoshi. It would be interesting to read his response about it.

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Last edit: June 28, 2020, 03:08:15 AM by philipma1957
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I think he was smart to do so. I would suggest some DT1 members do so.

It is late and I am tired but I may consider doing it in the morning.

It is said he owns 1,000,000+ btc  and he just lets it sit.

It is not very trustworthy for him to have done this deliberatively as he could case huge damage to the market with cashing out those coins.

In a way we are all at his mercy.

What would happen to BTC if he simply went to block 10 and moved it? Followed by block 11 and just moved  about 10 blocks a day for a few months in a row.

Awful lot of power in 'his' hands.

block 1 is supposed to be un cashable

block 2 has 50.01477486 btc in it
below are blocks 2,3,4

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1HLoD9E4SDFFPDiYfNYnkBLQ85Y51J3Zb1
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FvzCLoTPGANNjWoUo6jUGuAG3wg1w4YjR
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/15ubicBBWFnvoZLT7GiU2qxjRaKJPdkDMG

If he were to simply move those 3 blocks to a new address it would shock BTC

It he were to move block after block after block after block  it would crush the price.

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June 28, 2020, 03:05:03 AM
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Satoshi is the US government, and we are all stupid to not believe otherwise, and who trusts the government
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