Is it possible to check on which account the AMAZON code was used ??? (SCAM..)

[TeslaMotors]

I sold the code to a person who claims the code was used and is not working. Is there any way to check who used the code or at least get some data from which country the code was used or exactly what time and date?
Is there any way to protect yourself against hoodlums ?

[LeGaulois]

Nope, there is no way to check it. It's been a long time since I've done this, but before you could check the validity of the code before adding it to your account (so you could have made a screenshot showing it's valid before selling it and the buyer couldn't have said otherwise).

And there's no point in contacting Amazon to ask them because they won't be able to give you an answer (unless you report it to the police)...
They will tell you they're not responsible for codes stolen, lost, etc...

However, the country is easy to guess, if it's a .com voucher it can only be used in The US, a .fr voucher can only be used in France and so on.
(You can not buy an Amazon.com voucher and use it on Amazon.fr if I'm correct)

[TeslaMotors]

Nope, there is no way to check it. It's been a long time since I've done this, but before you could check the validity of the code before adding it to your account

So there was a possibility and now there is no ?
Does AMAZON help the scammers in their business ? Why are they doing everything they can not do to make it stop and ? What's the problem with giving tools for justice ?

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A little from another barrel.

Can I send money from my account (which I have from the code) to another user's address even if they have an account in another region? For example from Amazon UK to Amazon USA ?

[Boombl4]

Nope, there is no way to check it. It's been a long time since I've done this, but before you could check the validity of the code before adding it to your account

So there was a possibility and now there is no ?
Does AMAZON help the scammers in their business ? Why are they doing everything they can not do to make it stop and ? What's the problem with giving tools for justice ?

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A little from another barrel.

Can I send money from my account (which I have from the code) to another user's address even if they have an account in another region? For example from Amazon UK to Amazon USA ?

No you can't.
Each com,de,ca,uk have different currency and etc.
You can't do currency exchange based on the USD/EUR/GBP in Amazon.

[hugeblack]

It's like buying recharge cards. You can only check if the codes are correct when you adding it to your account.

Is there any way to protect yourself against hoodlums ?

You can protect yourself by buying physical cards from well-known stores, the percentage of codes being wrong with them is minimal and you can stipulate that the buyer send money once he gets the code and there is no refund service.

Some P2P sites provide excellent service for buying and selling such cards.

Can I send money from my account (which I have from the code) to another user's address even if they have an account in another region? For example from Amazon UK to Amazon USA ?

You can’t transfer funds between your Amazon marketplaces directly, but you can enter bank details (obtain your IBAN from) on each marketplace.
There are some third-party apps that enable you to do this but they are not guaranteed and may be scam apps.

[OcTradism]

Some P2P sites provide excellent service for buying and selling such cards.

The table was composed during the last week. There are some info needs to be filled up and the table is not finished. There are dozens of P2P marketplaces but the top two are Paxful.com and LocalBitcoins.com. Trading on P2P marketplace is risky for newbies and they need to learn using video recording apps to record their trading progress for later use. In some trades, troubles will occur and they will have to submit evidence of their trades. In such trades, videos are very good evidence.

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KYC

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Social Media

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Supported Countries

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Payment methods

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Accepted currencies

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Withdrawal limit

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Scam Accusations

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LocalCryptos.com

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No

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Twitter

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LocalCoinSwap.com

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Optional

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Twitter

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Local.Bitcoin.com

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No

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Telegram

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LocalMonero.co

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No

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Mycelium.com

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No

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Paxful.com

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Yes

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300+

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HodlHodl.com

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No

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WallofCoins.com

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No

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Remitano.com

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buyers

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BuyCrypto.today

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Swapngo.org

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LiberalCoins

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Coinected.io

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BitQuick.co

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AgoraDesk.com

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BitValve.com

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RampInstant.network

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BuyCoins.africa

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African

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Totalcoin.io

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CoinCola

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Bitzlato.com

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WazirX.com

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Indian

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Moontrade

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No

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counter.network

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Optional

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Binance P2P

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Yes

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Twitter,

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Bank,

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100 BTC/day

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Facebook,

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Alipay,

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WeChat,

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Paxful: Either create a listing/ trading volume >1500$

[crwth]

The best way to protect yourself from hoodlums is hire a highly trusted escrow that could be the middleman between you and the buyer. Like before sending the funds make sure that the escrow has the funds and make the verification of the code as well?

It's actually hard when handling codes. I have been scammed for a WoW Code here long before.

[bL4nkcode]

The best way to protect yourself from hoodlums is hire a highly trusted escrow that could be the middleman between you and the buyer. Like before sending the funds make sure that the escrow has the funds and make the verification of the code as well?

This will be possible if both parties will agreed that the escrow will have the login access of the buyer, and will be the one who redeem the code.

Aside from that escrow can't do anything since buyer might say that the code isnt working even it is and want refund, or seller pushing that the code is working while it isn't so a dispute might happen.

[crwth]

The best way to protect yourself from hoodlums is hire a highly trusted escrow that could be the middleman between you and the buyer. Like before sending the funds make sure that the escrow has the funds and make the verification of the code as well?

This will be possible if both parties will agreed that the escrow will have the login access of the buyer, and will be the one who redeem the code.

I think it's fair in that way. Make sure the fee of the escrow is covered by the two parties involved in the transaction. It's probably best even though it's not that big of an amount but better safe than sorry.

Aside from that escrow can't do anything since buyer might say that the code isnt working even it is and want refund, or seller pushing that the code is working while it isn't so a dispute might happen.

Thinking about it, the seller could do that. I just realized when you said it. It's still a risk and the buyer should be willing to let the escrow use the account. That's why I stopped purchasing codes of some sorts because it might not work. Some sellers here in Selly.gg or something similar is quite risky for me now.

[TeslaMotors]

I think if you try, then there will be a solution.

well played ninja

[bpovtmg]

I have been dealing with the Amazon Gift cards for several years on Paxful.


Below are some guidelines that will decrease your probability of being scammed when buying an Amazon Gift Card (and many other gift cards):

- Use an Escrow (this is obvious and comes first) if in any doubt

- Ask  for the photo of both sides of the physical gift card where the FULL card is visible (no hidden edges etc)  and the photo has a good resolution.

- Ask for a photo of the cash receipt given to the card seller when the card was bought in a shop

- Check that the cash receipt looks ... well ... like a normal cash receipt.

- Check that the *Card Number* from the card matches to the Card Number on the cash receipt.
 The *Card Number* is NOT the *Card Code*. The *Card Code* is the code that you redeem at Amazon and it looks like "AQZZ-TRDETY-CY9QF". The *Card Number* looks like a normal credit card number and consists of a long string of digits. Normally, the last 4 digits or the full *Card Number* are printed on the cash receipt. When you buy an Amazon gift card, the *Card Number* is visible (it's also printed on the package) and the *Card Code* is not visible (you need to scrape off the plastic film covering it to see the actual *Card Code*).

- Ask the card seller to write something in pen on the cash receipt (something like "Sold to <> at bitcointalk.org. No refund") and make a photo where BOTH the card and cash receipt are visible. This point helps to ensure that the seller has  both the cash receipt and card physically in his hands.

- Check on the cash receipt that the Amazon card has been bought with CASH (not with a Credit Card). It shall be clearly written on the receipt. If you see that the card was bought with a credit card, avoid it. It's a significant probability that the credit card used for that was stolen.

- E-gift codes are much less safe compared to physical cards. With them, you absolutely don't know who and how generated them. Purchase e-codes from a VERY reputable vendor with a VERY good feedback ratio ONLY.

- Offers with rates less than 80% should BY DEFAULT be considered as suspicious if not explicitly proven otherwise. At Paxful, traders buy 100% legit Amazon Gift Cards at 85+%, so ask yourself why your seller is asking much less from you.

- Beware of vendors with "locked" threads where nobody else can comment except them. Those guys are very probably scammers because honest vendors don't fear the customers feedback, good or bad

-  Beware of vendors with threads where all messages are from newbies successfully buying and telling each other how great this vendor is.

-  As a rule DO NOT CONSIDER trading with vendors with the red trust of -3 or lower. Don't deal 100% at all if the red trust is -4 or even lower. Review the trust level carefully.

- Consider using alternative methods of replenishing your Amazon balance (Gift of Prime , Gift of Kindle Unlimited)

- Buy from reputable vendors (and remember your rates will be within 85-95% range in this case) ONLY

- Scammers normally will try to rush you that you don't have time to review the offer carefully. Be calm.

- Reread this thread and ask if in doubt


The full thread is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2376993.0

[aesma]

TeslaMotors, I think bpovtmg gave you a nice detailed answer, I would ask you something though, because you didn't make it clear in your OP : you sold an amazon code, but you didn't tell us where you got that code. Depending on your answer, more specific advice could be given.

[examplens]

TeslaMotors, I think bpovtmg gave you a nice detailed answer, I would ask you something though, because you didn't make it clear in your OP : you sold an amazon code, but you didn't tell us where you got that code. Depending on your answer, more specific advice could be given.

Yeah, there is one very instructive story related to trading with Amazon gift cards and how everything can get complicated due to earnings of a few dollars.
Read full discussion from here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5162979.msg55107908#msg55107908
as you can see, it will cost him much more and bring them a lot of problems in real life.

[TeslaMotors]

TeslaMotors, I think bpovtmg gave you a nice detailed answer, I would ask you something though, because you didn't make it clear in your OP : you sold an amazon code, but you didn't tell us where you got that code. Depending on your answer, more specific advice could be given.

Yeah, there is one very instructive story related to trading with Amazon gift cards and how everything can get complicated due to earnings of a few dollars.
Read full discussion from here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5162979.msg55107908#msg55107908
as you can see, it will cost him much more and bring them a lot of problems in real life.

But why should someone unconscious be responsible if amazon itself does nothing about it and does not help to identify fraudsters?

[bpovtmg]

TeslaMotors, I think bpovtmg gave you a nice detailed answer, I would ask you something though, because you didn't make it clear in your OP : you sold an amazon code, but you didn't tell us where you got that code. Depending on your answer, more specific advice could be given.

Yeah, there is one very instructive story related to trading with Amazon gift cards and how everything can get complicated due to earnings of a few dollars.
Read full discussion from here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5162979.msg55107908#msg55107908
as you can see, it will cost him much more and bring them a lot of problems in real life.

But why should someone unconscious be responsible if amazon itself does nothing about it and does not help to identify fraudsters?

That thing's called the unfairness of life .....

[imstillthebest]

No sadly there is no way for you to check the email or the account of which the code was used on. A lot of the time scammers obtain giftcard codes and sell them on anyway, so IF you did locate the email of the account who redeemed it, they may not necessarily be the scammer.

they can also use it for themselves . why would they sell it when they also intendedly got it from the others for personal use ? also not all that who sell codes are scammers . i know alot of people  that have this job and they are called resellers . as a seller or reseller we should first put an agreement before we transact to others like no returns allowed . if they want they can recieve a sample , this also depend on the item and also depend on us .

[Findingnemo]

No sadly there is no way for you to check the email or the account of which the code was used on. A lot of the time scammers obtain giftcard codes and sell them on anyway, so IF you did locate the email of the account who redeemed it, they may not necessarily be the scammer.

they can also use it for themselves . why would they sell it when they also intendedly got it from the others for personal use ? also not all that who sell codes are scammers . i know alot of people  that have this job and they are called resellers . as a seller or reseller we should first put an agreement before we transact to others like no returns allowed . if they want they can recieve a sample , this also depend on the item and also depend on us .

If we are buying these kind of risky exchanges then we should be using escrow to avoid complete loss and also having the validity of the voucher as screenshot is the only proof kr better stop selling codes to random people who you don't trust their words.