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July 01, 2020, 11:15:35 PM |
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First of all, this is not about discrimination. This is about players feeling. The sports covered here are those with physical contact.
We all know that in some sports leagues, some players are being infected with the pandemic virus.
Now that some sports leagues are bound to resume and others are already resumed, do you think it will play a big role in their performance if somehow a team is against a team with recovered Covid-19 players on it? The mindset is still there that even these former Covid-19 players are now cleared and 100%, the worry is still there.
For me, yes. It can play as a factor in my future betting.
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sunsilk
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July 01, 2020, 11:41:29 PM |
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Depends how long the player has been recovered. If the player just recovered recently, there will be a huge factor to worry because some cases in different countries from those recovered patients, after wards they've seen to become infected again.
Sports association or management should have implement a rule that a complete recovery within a range of time before allowing a player to play.
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July 01, 2020, 11:50:56 PM |
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Depends how long the player has been recovered. If the player just recovered recently, there will be a huge factor to worry because some cases in different countries from those recovered patients, after wards they've seen to become infected again.
Sports association or management should have implement a rule that a complete recovery within a range of time before allowing a player to play.
Based from this article, there is probability that a recovered covid patient can still be reinfected. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/no-evidence-that-recovered-covid-19-patients-cannot-be-reinfected-who/So for those managing sports events, they should weigh their decisions when it comes to healthy protocols. Because a lot are showing asymptomatic cases, one wouldn't know their status if they will not undergo the testing. In this regard, it is better to subject all the involved persons to testing before they can proceed the event.
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sunsilk
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July 02, 2020, 12:20:11 AM |
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Depends how long the player has been recovered. If the player just recovered recently, there will be a huge factor to worry because some cases in different countries from those recovered patients, after wards they've seen to become infected again.
Sports association or management should have implement a rule that a complete recovery within a range of time before allowing a player to play.
Based from this article, there is probability that a recovered covid patient can still be reinfected. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/no-evidence-that-recovered-covid-19-patients-cannot-be-reinfected-who/So for those managing sports events, they should weigh their decisions when it comes to healthy protocols. Because a lot are showing asymptomatic cases, one wouldn't know their status if they will not undergo the testing. In this regard, it is better to subject all the involved persons to testing before they can proceed the event. It was what I'm saying before. There is a chance that a recovered patient can get infected again. That's the reason the management of any sporting event should be careful in assessing the players that was once became infected until a player has been cleared for a long time. The time period of recovery is important because as I've seen with the news, the medical personnel's always look to that factor. Just a disclaimer, I'm not a medical expert or practitioner and what I have said is based from the news that I've seen with an interview coming from a medical personnel.
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July 02, 2020, 02:09:43 AM |
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its recovered and virus free so why worry ? you know that worrying will only affect your gameplay , im sure they dont want to loose . its actually thier advantage and not a disadvantage because thier oponnent were still weak and traumatize from the recent covid virus that hit on their body but they cant play in a poor condition either because their managers wont allow it . the match are still going to be tough so we must bet properly and research both teams strength and weakneses .
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July 02, 2020, 02:52:50 AM |
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The recovered Covid-19 player can back infected from other people who are a carrier or asymptomatic. But they can prevent that by always take care of their health, and even if they make physical contact with another player who is a carrier.
For a recovered Covid-19 player, they shouldn't play for some time until they can fully recover from Covid-19 because we don't know if they can get infected or not in the next games. I think the sporting event staff already think about that, and if somehow, they get this, they will know what they need to do. And if necessary, perhaps, they will cancel the game for a while until everything is clear.
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July 02, 2020, 03:04:18 AM |
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its recovered and virus free so why worry ? you know that worrying will only affect your gameplay , im sure they dont want to loose . its actually thier advantage and not a disadvantage because thier oponnent were still weak and traumatize from the recent covid virus that hit on their body but they cant play in a poor condition either because their managers wont allow it . the match are still going to be tough so we must bet properly and research both teams strength and weakneses .
It has been noticed that a virus-free patient who has fully recovered and already been discharged may actually test positive in the next several days. While we can dismiss this as a case of a virus residue being detected, we cannot discount the fact that the understanding of this virus has not yet reached a level which we could be very confident about. So, I guess, it will probably affect how other players would interact with another player who had once been infected with the virus.
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NavI_027
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July 02, 2020, 03:22:04 AM |
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If the player is a logical-type of person which more thinks rationally than emotionally then I might say that having a direct contact with a fully recovered covid 19 patient/opponent won't bother him at all. Well, I don't blame those who want to play safe either since we don't yet have a strong defense against it but still hoping they can fix their mindset. The simple act of staying away from a recovered patient can leave a stigma. It is somehow considered a form of discrimination (though not intentional) because it makes him feel that he is all alone. Let the compassion in our hearts win above all .
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July 02, 2020, 03:34:06 AM |
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First of all, this is not about discrimination. This is about players feeling. The sports covered here are those with physical contact.
We all know that in some sports leagues, some players are being infected with the pandemic virus.
Now that some sports leagues are bound to resume and others are already resumed, do you think it will play a big role in their performance if somehow a team is against a team with recovered Covid-19 players on it? The mindset is still there that even these former Covid-19 players are now cleared and 100%, the worry is still there.
For me, yes. It can play as a factor in my future betting.
For sure that sports commissioner will be more particular about those players that ha been infected by Covid19 and will do precautionary measures before they let them step in the court again. Those who were infected will be under a maximum quarantine and not just 14 days (that is supposed to be the time frame) i know that they will be under observation for months to make sure that the virus is totally out of their system and will not infected other players. remember that These players are High value and the organizers will never risk their Health just because of some players that can be take off for a while until they will be proved safe.
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July 02, 2020, 03:44:46 AM |
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When some recovers from a disease their body creates antibodies to make them immune from that particular strain, like a particular strain of flu. So people who recovered from coronavirus have antibodies protecting them from SARS-CoV-2 so they cannot get infected by that particular strain again. Still, they should practice social distancing to avoid carrying the virus and infecting another person with it.
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July 02, 2020, 04:38:39 AM |
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Isn't the reinfection stemming from them being infected by someone with Covid? Doesn't that mean that recovered patients can be seen as patients that are cleared of infection? After all, having the name "recovered" means that the Covid-19 should be removed completely from the system. Just based from this, you can safely assume I suppose that there isn't any risk at all in playing with people that have recovered from the Covid-19. This is assuming that the said recovered person has completely "recovered". When some recovers from a disease their body creates antibodies to make them immune from that particular strain, like a particular strain of flu. So people who recovered from coronavirus have antibodies protecting them from SARS-CoV-2 so they cannot get infected by that particular strain again. Still, they should practice social distancing to avoid carrying the virus and infecting another person with it.
Source? Just looked up a bit and from what I could gather, it was basically the same as what the article @TimeTeller quoted that there has been no evidence as of yet, on both sides that is. No evidence of recovered person developing antibodies, and no evidence of a recovered person being reinfected once again.
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July 02, 2020, 05:06:45 AM |
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I don't think players who had corona virus will pass the fitness level to play on such sports and if they do means they are completely okay now and no need to afraid of getting infection while playing with them.But it may affect other players performance if they are infected and recovered in recent days because we all knows how soon this covid 19 can spread so those players have to quarantine themselves before making into any public place contact to make sure other people feel better while being with them.
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July 02, 2020, 05:27:35 AM |
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Most likely to happen is that those newly recovered players will not be engaged in playing or going out in public so the chance of playing against a recovered Covid 19 patient is too low to happen. Though, if it happens, I think to gamble with them is like playing normally with other people as the virus could already be sanitized. But for the side of the recovered COVID 19 patient, it's quite awkward as they need to strictly implement a distance and avoid too much interaction with other people.
If I'm in their shoes, not to discriminate the person, but I rather stop playing for 100 percent assurance that I will not get the virus.
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July 02, 2020, 06:44:07 AM |
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It depends on his natural fitness. Some players can get back to their highest fitness level in a relatively short time, but some players need more fitness training. It also depends on their symptom, whether it's no symptom, mild, or severe. In the case of mere influenza, a player can get back in training after five-day rest at home.* So it's safe to dismiss any performance issue if the players got no symptom or mild. *based on Football Manager
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July 02, 2020, 06:58:27 AM |
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The virus behaves differently in different persons and football players are not super human they simply are a bit more fit physically than other persons.I would bet on the team which has no Covid players as the team with recovered ones can be an easy target as the players of this team will not be equally fit as the other team players which are covid free.
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July 02, 2020, 07:02:24 AM |
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Depend upon the players on how they are looking about the matter,There are players that has small amount of afraid in Covid so they will basically play at all time.
But those who are taking this matter seriously?i believe they will Pass in this games and will make themselves safer and covid free.
But i believe that the game administration?they will make sure that all players and staffs are safe.
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July 02, 2020, 07:10:51 AM |
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What is happening to this world? Do you think that white boxer will be able to fight against black boxer without calling him a racist every time he hits a black guy? This headline reminds me on early 80's, people didn't want to talk with people who have AIDS, we all know why, but do you see a point here? We are falling apart, sinking deeper than ever. Apparently covid situation will have far greater consequences than anyone could imagine. Fear and misunderstanding, fear distorts perceptions and perceptions affect attitudes and behaviors, misunderstanding arise from ignorance and that breeds fear! Fear will remain the greatest enemy of peace! -Lester B. Parson! The virus behaves differently in different persons and football players are not super human they simply are a bit more fit physically than other persons.I would bet on the team which has no Covid players as the team with recovered ones can be an easy target as the players of this team will not be equally fit as the other team players which are covid free.
And the ones who survived virus have no fear to get infected again. The ones who didn't will be afraid to not get infected! Psychology says that it can be the opposite from what you say, I would bet on the ones who survived!
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July 02, 2020, 08:01:52 AM |
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According to this article, there is no evidence that those who recovered from this Covid-19 diseases are able to infect other people. But when we are in a pandemic right now, panic and fear are still there even if the person that you are talking to or having a physical contact with was infected and already recovered from the virus. Maybe, you will think that they can infect you because the rate of transmission of this corona virus is extremely higher and faster than you can imagine. Health officials there studied 285 patients who tested negative for the virus after recovering, but weeks later tested positive again.
These people are really unlucky and further studies should be made towards this Covid-19. That's the reason why, for me, it is still not safe to play sports even if you are competing with someone that recovered from this virus because you don't know if the virus is still there or he is an asymptomatic. That's very risky so as soon as possible, still practice social distancing and postponed those sport activities that requires physical contact between players. Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/05/22/861061727/south-korean-study-shows-no-evidence-recovered-covid-patients-can-infect-others
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July 02, 2020, 08:42:12 AM |
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As far as I know, before they can say that you fully recovered from the virus, they will repeatedly test you to make sure that you are already negative from the virus. So I think it's already fine and safe playing with other players. But of course, since they just recovered from the virus, they also need to take enough rest to make sure their body can handle playing, so it depends on when did they recover.
I think instead of worrying about playing with recovered patients, the organizers should worry to keep everyone in the event safe to prevent reinfection or new more cases.
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July 02, 2020, 09:12:28 AM |
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You hope to use this for match predictions and betting? Interesting... Well, it depends on how aware they are about disease spreading in leagues, and how close they are to the leagues. It could affect their performances and how they play. But I guess if players are too focus on the games, they will often forget that fellow players they are in close contact with were infected... unless they have mastered and learned to avoid or be careful with such players.
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