Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested

[madnessteat]

~ Then again, who in gods name is Maxwells phone provider? Like shit I doubt it is that hard to subpoena Verizon and have them track that phone within a certain area at all times.

I think that such decisions take too much time and in case a person is wanted and can leave the last known location at any moment or change his appearance beyond recognition with the help of plastic surgery FBI valuable every minute.

[Viper1]

She pleaded not guilty of course and was denied bail.

The judge said she found it "practically impossible" to set financial conditions that could assure Maxwell's appearance in court, adding that "her recent conduct underscores her extraordinary capacity to avoid detection."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/us/ghislaine-maxwell-pleads-not-guilty/index.html

[franky1]

She pleaded not guilty of course and was denied bail.

The judge said she found it "practically impossible" to set financial conditions that could assure Maxwell's appearance in court, adding that "her recent conduct underscores her extraordinary capacity to avoid detection."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/us/ghislaine-maxwell-pleads-not-guilty/index.html

funny part is they know she has $20m.. yet she only wanted to offer $4m as bail.. meaning only paying $0.4m as upfront bond.

yet 'normal' people who might only have just $500 in their savings account. get told their bail is $100k meaning they have to find $10k for bond. (20x what they actually have)

with her multiple identities and sti having $19.6m after bond. and other friends with access to planes. she is definition of flight risk even if they set a bail at $200m with a $20m bond. she can still escape the country.

i just find it arrogant of her to think that just a 20% of savings bail(2% of savings bond) would actually be a offer worthy of even considering.

..
one last highlight
in the picture in the CNN article.. whomever the court sketch artist is. he needs to find a new job.
he drew her as an asian male(top left in brown shirt ) .. kinda weird to draw others more detailed but then just put a random asian mans face as what should depict GM
(i bet your now thinking. now i see it i cant unsee that it looks like a asian man)

[Spendulus]

....I doubt it is that hard to subpoena Verizon and have them track that phone within a certain area at all times.

Stingray has to be moved to the vicinity of the target. If the goal is to locate a phone out there, "somewhere unknown" concealing the RFI of the phone would effectively prevent knowledge of it's location, until it was used. Then if you always only unwrapped and used it 100 miles to the east, you'd throw off the trackers.

Given that Obama subpoenaed Verizon and got all the records of all the Republican congressmen, it's certainly not hard to get records.

[Viper1]

Judge unsealed the documents from the lawsuit Maxwell was involved with re Giuffre.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/us/ghislaine-maxwell-newly-unsealed-documents-epstein/index.html

I haven't had a look at this other than a quick scan and I think this is what was released. Not sure how long it's going to remain up on this site but I grabbed a copy.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471/Epstein-Docs.pdf

[Mauser]

Judge unsealed the documents from the lawsuit Maxwell was involved with re Giuffre.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/us/ghislaine-maxwell-newly-unsealed-documents-epstein/index.html

I haven't had a look at this other than a quick scan and I think this is what was released. Not sure how long it's going to remain up on this site but I grabbed a copy.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471/Epstein-Docs.pdf

That is very interesting. To be honest I am just shocked how all these information have been around for years. It's obvious that Ghislaine Maxwell was involved in the prostitution ring. And yet she managed to stay out of prison for all these years. It's just sad how powerful and rich parents can protect you for such a long time. I really hope she gets what she deserve now and sells out all the other rich people involved.

[PrimeNumber7]

Judge unsealed the documents from the lawsuit Maxwell was involved with re Giuffre.

A lot of prominent Democrats were implicated in this dump. Giuffre may have credibility problems, but I think there is a good chance a lot of powerful people will end up going to jail.

[Spendulus]

Judge unsealed the documents from the lawsuit Maxwell was involved with re Giuffre.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/us/ghislaine-maxwell-newly-unsealed-documents-epstein/index.html

I haven't had a look at this other than a quick scan and I think this is what was released. Not sure how long it's going to remain up on this site but I grabbed a copy.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471/Epstein-Docs.pdf

That is very interesting. To be honest I am just shocked how all these information have been around for years. It's obvious that Ghislaine Maxwell was involved in the prostitution ring. And yet she managed to stay out of prison for all these years. It's just sad how powerful and rich parents can protect you for such a long time. I really hope she gets what she deserve now and sells out all the other rich people involved.

??

Maxwell's father died under mysterious circumstances (translate: murdered ) I believe when she was a teenager.

[madnessteat]

As I understand it, there were quite famous people involved in pedophilia so she couldn't be arrested for so long. She should be happy that they didn't get rid of her because she knows too much.

[franky1]

I haven't had a look at this other than a quick scan and I think this is what was released. Not sure how long it's going to remain up on this site but I grabbed a copy.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471/Epstein-Docs.pdf

That is very interesting. To be honest I am just shocked how all these information have been around for years.

yep its been talked about for years.

there is some interesting stuff in that document. but here is some clarification by comparing the pdf to whats publicly known for years
on pages of like 98-102. maxwells attorneys talk about a detective who claims no knowledge of maxwells actions

yet there are police released video interviews of victims from 2000-2005 that show the victims saying how maxwell approached them and introduced them to epstein, trained them up and such
funny part is whats not said. but hinted in the document is the detective working solely on the case in 2005 and then interviewed by maxwells attorneys had a private 'business' connection with epstein pre-2005
the hint is where it says that epstein hired the detective as a private security guy. and got him to do things like install camera's inside epsteins house
kinda funny that the same detective then doing the search warrent never found the hard drive with the security footage he helped install
also funny how epstein just happen to have disapeared taking ripping the hard drive from the computer before the 'surprise' search warrent..

i just found it weird that the attorneys know there are victim interviews from 2000-2005 naming maxwell as being involved. there are public info of the detective being hired by epstein before 2005
yet the attorneys want to paint a picture that the detective investigating epstein in 2005-6 is an impartial investigator with no knowledge of maxwell. and no pre-existing connection to epstein before 2005.. yet then hint that the detective was involved with epstein when certain details need to be said (facepalm) to many flip flops

i kinda hope the victims attorneys do pick at the holes of maxwells defense, as its kinda just seems like easy pickings to rip maxwells story apart
there is stuff like maxwells attorneys saying how in 2002 VR was not with epstein and maxwell.. but not mentioning is how maxwell and epstein got bored of VR as she 'aged out' and so dropped her as his masseuse and was then paying off her silence by sending her to thailand and paying for her education
they seem very evasive about the details of 2000-2001.. especially about the whole prince andrew incident. pretending they never took her places in 2001 even though there is a picture of VR with andrew and maxwell
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/12/02/20/21568426-0-image-a-15_1575318635649.jpg

[Twinkledoe]

As I understand it, there were quite famous people involved in pedophilia so she couldn't be arrested for so long. She should be happy that they didn't get rid of her because she knows too much.

This is what I was thinking here. With personalities involved, getting rid of her is so easy for them. I wonder if she will ever be convicted with her crimes. This is real telenovela in the making. What fate is she gonna have after all these years of being part in sex trafficking of children.

[franky1]

As I understand it, there were quite famous people involved in pedophilia so she couldn't be arrested for so long. She should be happy that they didn't get rid of her because she knows too much.

This is what I was thinking here. With personalities involved, getting rid of her is so easy for them. I wonder if she will ever be convicted with her crimes. This is real telenovela in the making. What fate is she gonna have after all these years of being part in sex trafficking of children.

i think her hope is to plead out. not as a trafficker. but as some stupid employer neglecting her duties by not protecting the girls when accusations were made of sexual harrassment involving epstein

EG like the cases where rape victims in the workplace report it to the boss and the boss ignores it.
she is hoping to be portrayed as the ignorant uninvolved boss

[Spendulus]

Judge unsealed the documents from the lawsuit Maxwell was involved with re Giuffre.

A lot of prominent Democrats were implicated in this dump. Giuffre may have credibility problems, but I think there is a good chance a lot of powerful people will end up going to jail.

One more time. Blackmail is a crime, and there is such a thing as inducement and entrapment.

Where did Epstein's money come from?

[coolcoinz]

As I understand it, there were quite famous people involved in pedophilia so she couldn't be arrested for so long. She should be happy that they didn't get rid of her because she knows too much.

This is what I was thinking here. With personalities involved, getting rid of her is so easy for them. I wonder if she will ever be convicted with her crimes. This is real telenovela in the making. What fate is she gonna have after all these years of being part in sex trafficking of children.

They were doing many things on that island of his.
There's a confession of his driver/bodyguard circulating somewhere on the web where he said that they had a kind of "roleplay" there in which they had a bull mask that each of the guests would take turns to wear each night. The masked person would then roam around the island doing whatever it is that they wanted, like having sex with whoever they asked and that chosen person had to obey them.
They also had kids there. He saw a french boy once who looked lost, scared and did not speak english. We can only guess what they needed foregin children for since there was no boarding school or an orphanage there.

[squatz1]

Just as my own personal update on this.

Surprised that Maxwell hasn't 'suicided' herself yet (been murdered, y'all know what I mean) as it seemed like they were slowly laying the groundwork for her to just die. As she was placed on suicide watch, then maybe experiencing covid symptoms, and then nothing.

Not too big a fan of Trump saying I wish her well. Even if I've seen that past times Trump has said this he has not meant it in the traditonal "I wish Grandma well in the Hospital" he meant it more in the sense of "I wish (x) person well in prison) But then again, why even give people the chance to think that you're supporting her or that you like her, or anything like that.

Just come out and say that you hope she goes to jail for a long time.

[franky1]

trump still trying to buddy up with her rather then say 'lynch her' because if he says lynch her she can just come to her senses and reveal stuff she knnows about trump

just because he is president doesnt mean that he is more pure then the pope.
he is known to be a bad businessman that happily claims bankrupcy.. from a business point of view he should not be the one deciding on treasury things
he is known to be a womaniser so he should not be incharge of laws that can affect women
he has had womanising parties publicly with epstein and obviously there could be alot of stuff maxwell knows behind closed doors

so when people think that trump is some innocent guy. just because he is president.. well thats just silly.
being president does not make someone suddenly never have a murky past. it just means they now have more puppet strings to prevent their murky past resurfacing

but he still needs to be careful because if she can delay her case to beyond the next election. where trump loses his puppetstring power. and then she reveals some stuff about him.. bye bye trump
so yea trump is still being a bit positive about maxwell

[Spendulus]

Just as my own personal update on this.

Surprised that Maxwell hasn't 'suicided' herself yet (been murdered, y'all know what I mean) as it seemed like they were slowly laying the groundwork for her to just die. As she was placed on suicide watch, then maybe experiencing covid symptoms, and then nothing.

Not too big a fan of Trump saying I wish her well. Even if I've seen that past times Trump has said this he has not meant it in the traditonal "I wish Grandma well in the Hospital" he meant it more in the sense of "I wish (x) person well in prison) But then again, why even give people the chance to think that you're supporting her or that you like her, or anything like that.

Just come out and say that you hope she goes to jail for a long time.

It's really tempting to look at this case and Maxwell and point fingers at what are assumed to be the political important people. A suggestion? Don't do that. Focus on the criminals. The one that is in jail. Maxwell.

Where did Epsteins money come from? Was it blackmail? Of important people?

Blackmail is a felony, and those who are blackmailed are "victims."

[franky1]

so if trump did have sex with girls under 18. you dont want that investigated because trump is not in jail in the first place to even warrant a investigation to trigger a need to arrest him
seems a bit backwards to me

instead you want trump to be treated as a victim of blackamail, thus get away with anything he coulda done at epsteins many parties he attended

seems your wearing the patriot hat. and not the logical ethics hat tonight.

just because he is president doesnt mean he deserves a get out of jail free card.
what he deserves is to be punished like anyone else doing the same sexual acts

im british and i support the royal family. but even i have the sense of ethics and morals to say that prince andrew should be jailed

dont base things on patriotic emotions. base it on whats right by law and to true victims
if you think blackmail threat is a more serious crime than underage rape/sex.  then maybe thats an ethics issue you need to research

i would find it funny and very disturbing if all rapists could in future get away with their crimes by just saying they were blackmailed by the very people they victimised

a crime does not become a non-crime just because a secondary action of less severity is then used against the one causing the initial crime

'i stole a car, but i should not be arrested because when ii tried to sell it. the person buying it off me said he would call the cops unless i gave him discount"

sorry i just dont see blackmail as being a worthy defense

however the only exception would be being blackmailed into doing a crime
EG 'i know you cheated on your wife with vegas 32yo stripper so i want you to now rape a girl thats 17 or else i tell your wife about the cheating in vegas'
but that kinda blackmail is not what the 'political elite' people associated with maxwell experienced

[squatz1]

trump still trying to buddy up with her rather then say 'lynch her' because if he says lynch her she can just come to her senses and reveal stuff she knnows about trump

just because he is president doesnt mean that he is more pure then the pope.
he is known to be a bad businessman that happily claims bankrupcy.. from a business point of view he should not be the one deciding on treasury things
he is known to be a womaniser so he should not be incharge of laws that can affect women
he has had womanising parties publicly with epstein and obviously there could be alot of stuff maxwell knows behind closed doors

so when people think that trump is some innocent guy. just because he is president.. well thats just silly.
being president does not make someone suddenly never have a murky past. it just means they now have more puppet strings to prevent their murky past resurfacing

but he still needs to be careful because if she can delay her case to beyond the next election. where trump loses his puppetstring power. and then she reveals some stuff about him.. bye bye trump
so yea trump is still being a bit positive about maxwell

Eh not sure he's being positive towards her. I think he's just saying something that he says to everyone that he knows is going to go to jail soon, and for someone like her it meant a lot more in the media circus as you know, he said it to a CHILD PEDOPHILE. Horrible thing to say and someone on the Trump PR team should note it down that it's not GOOD to say nice things about Pedos in the media, even if you're being sarcastic or something along those lines.

If all the powerful people want Maxwell dead she'll be dead. Maybe they have something on her as well? All of these people should have had better deads man switches. Pretty stupid to not just have all the crazy shit autoreleased into the public.

[Spendulus]

....
If all the powerful people want Maxwell dead she'll be dead. Maybe they have something on her as well? All of these people should have had better deads man switches. Pretty stupid to not just have all the crazy shit autoreleased into the public.

But when Epstein kicked the bucket, there wasn't an autorelease.