Bounty managers can do better

[VDraci]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

[Ken_terrance]

You have a point, not bad at all if bounty managers can start knowing project team very well before accepting their offer but don't expect that all bounty managers can do this, it's not really to manage a bounty campaign trust me

[btcltcdigger]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

I've had live video chat with projects that turned out to be a scam in the end. What's your point?
The thing is, many projects start legit, and once they see that it's not going well, they take what's left and run away, basically scamming even their own team members...

[JeotQ]

It's your duty to avoid scam projects by doing research, don't expect bounty managers to do all the work for you, moreover do you think that KYC means project are reliable? Just because someone do KYC doesn't mean they can't scam you, it's crypto space, my did KYC or even appear on video but run away with ICO money and they aren't apprehended till date.

[IamAltcoinfan]

I came back bounty hunting only the reason of Bountydetective and some similar community . These managers were doing fairly good job . But KingCasino is really upset for me also . Glad i dint participate in that Airdrop also . As you said managers will do some more research in future to keep back the trust in community.

[Phoenix_PROG]

Lol, in a world where people can easily still someone else identity to do KYC, you really think that with KYC people can't scam others? I don't think so, On the internet criminals can walk free even if they show their faces to the world

[bison]

I came back bounty hunting only the reason of Bountydetective and some similar community . These managers were doing fairly good job . But KingCasino is really upset for me also . Glad i dint participate in that Airdrop also . As you said managers will do some more research in future to keep back the trust in community.

all against the will of all of us. bounty detective, I think I did my best. I like some of his campaigns. but in the case of king casino, we can't blame anyone.

[Gunday_07]

So because kingcasino turn scam now you want to blame bounty detective? This is one of the most active bounty managers so far in 2020, they deserve some respect, HEX bounty wasn't like this right? Even when many called the project a scam or shitcoin, those who still went ahead and project the project sold Hex for big price

[Wingsbtc]

bounty hunters you are responsible for your own safety, any bounty manager can make mistakes, you promoters should be the one looking out for yourselves, you can easily avoid scam projects like kingcasino, why?

1. The pictures of the team on the website looks like a whack job, stolen pictures definitely

2. The claim they raised millions of dollars through latoken and p2pb2b exchange only, how is that possible when this two exchanges are worse for new IEO projects

[Reatim]

You have a point, not bad at all if bounty managers can start knowing project team very well before accepting their offer but don't expect that all bounty managers can do this, it's not really to manage a bounty campaign trust me

Lol many Bounty manager are only concerns about their payment and not the participants?

Some campaign  owner mostly offers payments ahead for the managers to justify their scamming.


I don't think that there will be a clearing in Bounties now,it is getting badder and badder now,soon ICO and IEO will die and Bounties will no longer exist,this is sad reality unless people will still consider cooperating in scammers.

[criket]

I don't think that there will be a clearing in Bounties now,it is getting badder and badder now,soon ICO and IEO will die and Bounties will no longer exist,this is sad reality unless people will still consider cooperating in scammers.

something bad is happening right now. but I think that IEO or ICO and bounty will disappear this time it won't happen. the best solution is not to eliminate, but a clear regulation must be made. the application can be on the bounty manager, also on new projects.

[TopTort777]

I've had live video chat with projects that turned out to be a scam in the end. What's your point?
The thing is, many projects start legit, and once they see that it's not going well, they take what's left and run away, basically scamming even their own team members...

When you worked as a bounty manager, have you tried to ask the team to transfer bounty pool to you or some other trusted third party ?
This might work as a part of bounty hunters protection from doing promotion work for nothing.

I can divide bounty campaign scam project into 3 caterogies:

1) do not distribute bounty reward at all
2) distribute, but perform exit scam or make excuses for not listing, abandon project
3) distribute, got listed, but dumped projects tokens or coins and evaporate.

If a trusted intermediary holds bounty reward, this my save hunters from "1) do not distribute bounty reward at all".

[Yaunfitda]

I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers

How? As much as I hate to say this, bounty hunters are just simply that, hunting project to earn some penny and then move along.

If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria[/b]

Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only

I think they do, but they don't control everything, they are just a manager, if the project choose to exit scam then they can't do anything about it. Plus their reputation are ruined, how many bounty managers have we seen being tagged already? Many of them.

[Jating]

This is a never ending debate to be honest, bounty hunters blame the bounty managers, and then bounty manager blames the people behind the project, its cyclical. And you really don't know until it's too late, when the project suddenly disappears.

So for bounty hunters, there is always that risk, that you didn't know if the project will be successful or will it scam everyone. Or if the project didn't run, chances are, it will take years for the token to be listed on an exchanges, and projects are going to run many excuses.

@TopTort777 - I like your idea, but holding bounty payments will also scream scam for bounty hunters. Because once the project ended, they immediately wanted to get their rewards.

[Slash61]

When you worked as a bounty manager, have you tried to ask the team to transfer bounty pool to you or some other trusted third party ?
This might work as a part of bounty hunters protection from doing promotion work for nothing.

I can divide bounty campaign scam project into 3 caterogies:

1) do not distribute bounty reward at all
2) distribute, but perform exit scam or make excuses for not listing, abandon project
3) distribute, got listed, but dumped projects tokens or coins and evaporate.

If a trusted intermediary holds bounty reward, this my save hunters from "1) do not distribute bounty reward at all".

most of it is true as you said in number 1. after that is number 2 that we see the most. they do the distribution but not listed on the exchange. then the team disappears.

[Pffrt]

First of all, most of the bounty managers are so called money digger only. They work for money, nothing else is to be considered. Some shit managers even take payment with token. They don't care anything. On the other hand, as btcltcdigger said, you can never know who is legit and who is a scammer or sometimes a legit project may turn scam due to some inevitable reason. It's hunter who should knowingly join the campaign that the bounty may (actually WILL) not give any valuable rewards.
@Toptort
When you are promoting a scam project, where's the necessity of having bounty pool escrowed. I'm sure that no legit project would scam the hunters. If any projects denied to distribute bounty rewards, the project is a scam one no doubt.

[Claudio99]

It's one of the risks that bounty hunters signed for, take responsibility once it happens, any project can turn scam at any time, when that happens don't forget what you signed for, there are many reasons why a bounty project can fail, If you can't handle the risks don't bother joining bounties

[Botnake]

You wished everyone would do that, but that's not the reality, there's a lot of bounty managers in the forum and we can categorized them from bad, good to better. As a bounty hunter, I think it's our job to be more careful in joining a certain bounty campaign, we don't need to require them to comply with anything as that would not happen, the market is decentralized so we have to deal with that as that could also be the nature of job here.

If you are looking for a better result on the campaign, just look for reputable campaign managers and only joined on the campaign they manage even if the reward is not that attractive.

Nowadays, project with good potential are not paying big bounty reward, you can also check on that.

I think this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228629.0) would help you.

[rahmatullah9305]

The idea you gave is indeed very good for minimizing the scam rate on the bounty, but will the team want to show their KYC via forced video chat? because everyone who does forced work obviously won't be happy in completing it, they could have made a fake KYC then showed it through the video manager chat.

[minairia3]

You cant add additional jobs on their shoulders and also its their own judgement to accept and decline projects. Now as a bounty hunter, its your job to find, differentiate, identify scam from legit. Why blame the manager for falling for a scam one? It sounds like its their fault for your mistakes ( I mean hunters). Just do a proper research and find a good one that pays correspondingly.

The idea you gave is indeed very good for minimizing the scam rate on the bounty

However do you think managers will do it for hunters sake? As a manager they know what to do already and no need to be reminded of.