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[Razvan_BTC]

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[Bitcoinsummoner]

What happened: I 'm trying to buy a skrill and paysafecard account already got ripped 3 times(4 times if you count this escrow one too) Someone contacted me to trade and he suggested this user as a middleman. After I have sent the btc the just stopped to respond and the seller also leaved the telegram conversation

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377

Reference Link:
Amount Scammed: 0.0068 BTC / 68$
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1BZH63hkEhxKLNzCPi4vtXngRHPh1huHaG
PM/Chat Logs: https://prnt.sc/tbq136
https://streamable.com/46va21
https://streamable.com/l01s4p
Additional Notes:

You have reported in a good format, thanks for posting as a perfect way. I have few questions to you:
1. What is the telegram ID of Hhampuz?
2. From where you got that telegram ID?
3. From where you received the bitcoin wallet?
4. Who sent you the telegram ID?

[Bitcoinsummoner]

1. @hhampuz
2. He geved me his telegram ID in a PM on forum
3. From his telegram account
4. He sent me his telegram ID via PM in bitcointalk forum

I attached everything in PM/Chat Logs section of my report post

It is good that you got the telegram ID from bitcointalk message. In this case:
1. Can you please check the telegram id from the bitcointalk and telegram id from where you have received the bitcoin wallet are exact match?
There might have something change for adding of a character or change a character or something like that.
2. There is 99.99% chance of changing something like that to pretend Hhampuz
3. Also please check either the message you received directly from Hhampuz or or forwarded the message by the real scammer from bitcointalk.

I faced like this issue several times.

[Bitcoinsummoner]

Is the same user. What abbout hhampuz. Can we summon him here and sow us his conversation in that group chat he created? He also writed in my PM that he is talking with me.

That not with hhampuz and I think there is 99.9999% chance you have been scammed by someone else on telegram who pretend of hhampuz. I checked the transaction details and it has only the single transaction.

[AhmadM]

Is the same user. What abbout hhampuz. Can we summon him here and sow us his conversation in that group chat he created? He also writed in my PM that he is talking with me.

You said you received his telegram ID from this forum PM right? Can you show us his first message to you?
He is a trustworthy member here, I do not think he will do it just for a small amount of money.
You need to provide clear evidence to sustain your statement.

[sheenshane]

I assumed that you had scammed pretending to be Hhampuz. I trust Hhampuz and we had a past transaction with this user you have been accused.

1. @hhampuz
2. He geved me his telegram ID in a PM on forum
3. From his telegram account
4. He sent me his telegram ID via PM in bitcointalk forum

I attached everything in PM/Chat Logs section of my report post

Answer to this,
1. His real telegram account is @Hhampuz, take note of the capital letter H.
2. So, he did PM you using his Bitcointalk account? Where's your proof?
3. Telegram account of the scammer, not Hhampuz
4. Show your proof, screenshot. calm down!

He had been held thousands of dollars here and managing various signature campaigns holding a huge amount of fund, do you think with your $68 he will scam you? Jeez!

Edited.

[Bitcoinsummoner]

Is the same user. What abbout hhampuz. Can we summon him here and sow us his conversation in that group chat he created? He also writed in my PM that he is talking with me.

That not with hhampuz and I think there is 99.9999% chance you have been scammed by someone else on telegram who pretend of hhampuz. I checked the transaction details and it has only the single transaction.

Why is so hard to summon hhampuzz to this topic to provide any evidence that he have so he can prove that im wrong

You may send message to Hhampuz on bitcointalk, he will help you by providing information if he really provided the wallet ID. But don't be hurry just send a single message and wait for the response. He will response as soon as possible.

[Hhampuz]

Lol.

[sujonali1819]

Op, don't panic so much, please. I just want to say that if anything wrong happens (Hhampuz is busy, or something wrong happens with him ) will be solved soon when Hhampuz will see this thread and say something about this deal. I have already asked to check this thread. Hope he will come soon when he will see the message. So don't be panic and have patience.

wow! Hhampuz already comes here even before my post. LOL

[Hhampuz]

If you have ever used me as an escrow, which other parties can confirm, you would know that I always insist on using forum pm's for anything payment related and Telegram for anything chat related - when it comes to escrowing.

You were very fast to make this topic, almost as if you had it all written out already. I would just assume that your "friend" (The other party of this transaction) deleted the conversation where he asked me to message you because you are trying to pull some bullshit up in here.

Next time, go for more than $68. Such a petty number.



EDIT; And who the fuck uses legacy addresses anymore anyways?

[Hhampuz]

Can you show me "my" telegram username ?

I won't put any more effort in this thread, just looking at your replies you want to summon me so that I can "prove you wrong" rather than you actually trying to get retribution if you were scammed.

I don't trust you, so that's that.

[Bitcoinsummoner]

Can you show me "my" telegram username ?

So, finally what happens? Either you are have been scamed by the person who pretended Hhampuz or you and your friend made the drama. Also both account might be of you, sorry 3 accounts as one has pretended of Hhampuz.

[actmyname]

Close this thread. It was my mistake.

Lock button is in the bottom-left, you can close the thread yourself.

[Krislaw]

Close this thread. It was my mistake.

Wow. And you sounded so sure.
Can't believe you're about to rub mud on an innocent user.
I was even thinking you and the other user were up to something.
Please lock thread

[aioc]

Close this thread. It was my mistake.

Besides closing this thread you should change the title of your posts you have a very weak proof and you are in a hurry to post, I don't see any logic here $68 for a reputation you have build for so many years, and you cannot even prove a PM in forum.
I think you are just trying to ruin the reputation of Hhampuz

[suchmoon]

I think we need a new rule in Scam Accusations: NO TELEGRAM BULLSHIT. If someone scammed you on telegram complain to telegram. It's a waste of time trying to decipher who made up what and there is zero chance to verify shit.

[DireWolfM14]

I think we need a new rule in Scam Accusations: NO TELEGRAM BULLSHIT. If someone scammed you on telegram complain to telegram. It's a waste of time trying to decipher who made up what and there is zero chance to verify shit.

I think there's little to no chance that you'll convince people to stop using Telegram.  I must admit I find it convenient, quick, and effective to communicate with users I meet here, especially if they're new and have PM restrictions.  Without getting into the whole "end to end" encryption debate, or their willingness to allow scammers to abuse their platform, I just think it's a tool.  A useful one that needs skill and understanding to use correctly.

However, I have never, and never will complete a transaction solely on Telegram.  When I was offering escrow services, all official addresses I provided were posted here, on the forum, either in public or through PM, and always included a signed message.  If all of us bitcointalk.org members would insist on transacting this way and this way only, the Telegram scams would be a thing of the past.  There would be no way for an impostor to fool anyone.

Insist on a signed message,
posted here on the forum!

[TheUltraElite]

As soon as I saw the topic title, I was sure that OP is bullshitting.
Turned out that I was right as always.

Hhampuz is a man of of his word. Most of such threads end up being clickbait anyway. Sadly this a forum so no way to control such topics from being made.
Dont trust but verify.

[Hhampuz]

However, I have never, and never will complete a transaction solely on Telegram.  When I was offering escrow services, all official addresses I provided were posted here, on the forum, either in public or through PM, and always included a signed message.  If all of us bitcointalk.org members would insist on transacting this way and this way only, the Telegram scams would be a thing of the past.  There would be no way for an impostor to fool anyone.

That is my philosophy as well. Unfortunately most people who want to use escrow are newbies and limited in the PM's they can send but I always tell them straight up that I will only leave payment details and the basic information about the deal in bitcointalk PM's. They can respond to it in telegram but I've never posted a btc addy on there for a deal.

At the end of the day, it's quite easy to verify on telegram too... You just have to check that the user is the correct one. This reminds me of when people were getting scammed on steam all the time because someone took the name and avatar of their "friend". A silly scam but way too many people fall for it.

[Josefjix]

Close this thread. It was my mistake.

Why were you quick to call him out without any viable evidence? It is either you're the  3 persons involved in this transaction or it is a planned work by you and a paid person to ruin the reputation built but the accused for years on the forum. Next time be more mature and disciplined.