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So there's 6000+ coins out there. Look at the max supply. A coin with a large max supply and rapid emission of new coins will most likely never surge in value. This is because the worlds total capital is divided with so many optional coins. The larger the supply, the more capital it needs to spike in value. Even Bitcoin with a max supply of only 21 million needed massive amount of capital to get where it is now. So any coin with double that, will need the double amount of capital to get to the same place. So with so many options out there if you want good value pump. Look for something with max supply of only like 1 million. (which of course needs to have a utility too to stay in growing demand)
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Honestly I really don't see the need for projects to have such huge supply as billions of it, at the end of the day the token price will only need a miracle to pump a bit, and if it does pump if you are an investor better sell and move on because it will take another miracle for the price to move up again,
I don't fancy project with huge supply, I think it is a punishment on the part of the investors, it will take a very long time to see any meaningful increase in price, it is better to have a small supply.
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So you are saying that all coins/tokens with small supply will have a huge value cause its easy to insert capital funds on it? Whether its small or big supply as long as the demand is high this is nothing. A coin will surge no matter what its supply. Take a look on xrp, the supply is so huge but it still able to be considered as big marketcap not mentioning the infinitie supply of eth? Its all about the law of demand and supply. Actually you have a point but not all will believe thats this is the only reason for a coin to increase its value.
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July 05, 2020, 01:21:07 PM |
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So there's 6000+ coins out there. Look at the max supply. A coin with a large max supply and rapid emission of new coins will most likely never surge in value. This is because the worlds total capital is divided with so many optional coins. The larger the supply, the more capital it needs to spike in value. Even Bitcoin with a max supply of only 21 million needed massive amount of capital to get where it is now. So any coin with double that, will need the double amount of capital to get to the same place. So with so many options out there if you want good value pump. Look at something with max supply of only like 1 million.
I agree with your basic point but i think you have too ambitious target of max supply as i have never seen any serious project with a supply of only 1 million coins, i think coins with billions in supply should be discouraged and there should be some limit when it comes to max supply like 100 million or 200 million. I have seen almost all new coins dumping hard that have supply in billions.
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July 05, 2020, 01:50:16 PM |
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So you are saying that all coins/tokens with small supply will have a huge value cause its easy to insert capital funds on it? Whether its small or big supply as long as the demand is high this is nothing. A coin will surge no matter what its supply. Take a look on xrp, the supply is so huge but it still able to be considered as big marketcap not mentioning the infinitie supply of eth? Its all about the law of demand and supply. Actually you have a point but not all will believe thats this is the only reason for a coin to increase its value.
No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it's more likely because the liquidity required for them to perform like that is much smaller. Of course they also need an actual utility to make sense and to be interesting.
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July 05, 2020, 01:51:35 PM |
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You are right and you are wrong too, coins don't just have max supplies of any amount they want, though some projects don't care about them but as for some projects use case max supply with 21billion is perfect fit and for others it isn't.
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July 05, 2020, 02:00:57 PM |
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You are right and you are wrong too, coins don't just have max supplies of any amount they want, though some projects don't care about them but as for some projects use case max supply with 21billion is perfect fit and for others it isn't.
They usually do have a cap limit (max supply) determined in the codebase before the crypto was even launched. That was the actual big novelty that Bitcoin brought to the digital monetary and asset world. A guaranteed cap limit, which no FIAT currency has. FIAT has infinite cap limit and can just endlessly print more units. This cap limit can not be changed after launch of the network. 21 million is not a perfect fit anymore in this days market. It was for Bitcoin in 2017, but that will never happen again with that same cap limit because now there is 6000+ cryptos.
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July 05, 2020, 02:05:55 PM |
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So there's 6000+ coins out there. Look at the max supply. A coin with a large max supply and rapid emission of new coins will most likely never surge in value. This is because the worlds total capital is divided with so many optional coins. The larger the supply, the more capital it needs to spike in value. Even Bitcoin with a max supply of only 21 million needed massive amount of capital to get where it is now. So any coin with double that, will need the double amount of capital to get to the same place. So with so many options out there if you want good value pump. Look for something with max supply of only like 1 million.
Maximum value doesn't really matters because you are going to get the value for each units so more coins means cheaper the price will be. But you have to check whether the maximum supply is fixed or it can be increased, in most of the project it will be fixed or even get lesser because project will burn the unsold tokens.
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July 05, 2020, 02:35:54 PM |
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You would rather say look at circulating supply instead of max supply. ETH max supply is infinite but criculating supply is too low. However, a one million max supply is neber guaranteed the price pump unless it has some usecases because if there is no real demand, price will never pump. In addition, such limited max supply coin can be easily manipulated by whales.
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July 05, 2020, 02:38:17 PM |
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So there's 6000+ coins out there. Look at the max supply. A coin with a large max supply and rapid emission of new coins will most likely never surge in value. This is because the worlds total capital is divided with so many optional coins. The larger the supply, the more capital it needs to spike in value. Even Bitcoin with a max supply of only 21 million needed massive amount of capital to get where it is now. So any coin with double that, will need the double amount of capital to get to the same place. So with so many options out there if you want good value pump. Look for something with max supply of only like 1 million.
Maximum value doesn't really matters because you are going to get the value for each units so more coins means cheaper the price will be. But you have to check whether the maximum supply is fixed or it can be increased, in most of the project it will be fixed or even get lesser because project will burn the unsold tokens. The total value (market cap) is distributed with the circulating supply. The larger max supply and the circulation supply, the more distributed the value will be and the faster the emission of coins the more capital it will require to gain or even maintain a value. So the Max supply and circulating supply reveals to you in comparison to for example Bitcoin how much capital it will require to really gain value.
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July 05, 2020, 02:44:04 PM |
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At least for bitcoin, it can easily be fueled by the community because it's the most preferred cryptocurrency by everybody. Unlike those altcoins that has a massive number of supply limit, they're unlikely to get more value because of the supply. However, there are altcoins that has huge supply limit yet is still getting a good volume and demand due to the usefulness and popularity of those coins.
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Rent this sig space so that BTC goes to $100k.
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July 05, 2020, 02:49:37 PM |
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You would rather say look at circulating supply instead of max supply. ETH max supply is infinite but criculating supply is too low. However, a one million max supply is neber guaranteed the price pump unless it has some usecases because if there is no real demand, price will never pump. In addition, such limited max supply coin can be easily manipulated by whales.
Yeah look at both. Infinite supply says: fixed stable value. They want ETH to be stable, because the price of ETH effects every function on Ethereum like the ENS domain fees and smart contract fees. You want your domain fees and smart contract fees to be predictable for years ahead, so you can safely plan your enterprise on Ethereum. They will always emit more or remove coins to keep the price stable balanced.
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July 05, 2020, 03:01:19 PM |
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I got intrigued by this statement : ~... ~So with so many options out there if you want good value pump~
I wonder what about DOGE? there's no total supply for that coin. But based on previous prize higher price is $0.02. So, it is not about total supply i guess. But about acceptance. What i believe, although the total supply is unlimited, as long as the community's reaction are positive, the possibility of pump activities is still wide open. Or maybe i misunderstood with what you mean in your thread.?
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July 05, 2020, 03:02:27 PM |
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Not only max supply but also many other things. Let me give you some of them: - Current supply - Total premined / instamined coins for developers. - Inflation or deflation scheme. - Ratio between premined/ instamined coins (for developers) per total supply: if it is high, it is not a good one because developers can dump all their coins and get a fortune before running away, abandoning projects. - Ratio between current supply and total supply: it will help you to know the coin is in inflation or deflation period.
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July 05, 2020, 03:03:34 PM |
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So there's 6000+ coins out there. Look at the max supply. A coin with a large max supply and rapid emission of new coins will most likely never surge in value. This is because the worlds total capital is divided with so many optional coins. The larger the supply, the more capital it needs to spike in value. Even Bitcoin with a max supply of only 21 million needed massive amount of capital to get where it is now. So any coin with double that, will need the double amount of capital to get to the same place. So with so many options out there if you want good value pump. Look for something with max supply of only like 1 million. (which of course has a utility too)
Definitely, supply is one of the important factors when i see a new project and analyse it for investment and i do take huge supply as a negative thing basically by implementing huge supply the team holds major supply and it can speculate or manipulate market whenever they want, so creating extra bit of tokens do not really make sense for a quality project.
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July 05, 2020, 03:07:21 PM |
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So there's 6000+ coins out there. Look at the max supply. A coin with a large max supply and rapid emission of new coins will most likely never surge in value. This is because the worlds total capital is divided with so many optional coins. The larger the supply, the more capital it needs to spike in value. Even Bitcoin with a max supply of only 21 million needed massive amount of capital to get where it is now. So any coin with double that, will need the double amount of capital to get to the same place. So with so many options out there if you want good value pump. Look for something with max supply of only like 1 million. (which of course has a utility too)
I think the max supply issue is just one of the many reasons why a project's coin/token cannot improve their price much compared to other coins/tokens that much lesser supply, another possible reason is the coin/token utilization, like product and services, for example, the ripple's XRP coin with a max supply of 100 Billion and currently traded at 0.178 cents because XRP is a cross border payment solution it has a mainstream use and demand thats why beside of its huge total supply it was successfully withholding its price and value so IMHO, max supply is not that important compared to the utilization and use case.
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July 05, 2020, 03:17:57 PM |
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Supply is not really important. As long as the project is good and there is a product, I believe that its price will still rise and help the investor get a profit.
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July 05, 2020, 04:01:11 PM |
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So there's 6000+ coins out there. Look at the max supply. A coin with a large max supply and rapid emission of new coins will most likely never surge in value. This is because the worlds total capital is divided with so many optional coins. The larger the supply, the more capital it needs to spike in value. Even Bitcoin with a max supply of only 21 million needed massive amount of capital to get where it is now. So any coin with double that, will need the double amount of capital to get to the same place. So with so many options out there if you want good value pump. Look for something with max supply of only like 1 million. (which of course has a utility too)
The supply is not that important but the use cases and how many people use the product they offer using the coins they have . Same thing with bitcoin if it have many supply it will reduce the value of each coins but total market cap of it is the same since there many people use it now as normal currency and many things now that you can use bitcoin in online purchase or for sending money.
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July 05, 2020, 04:04:50 PM |
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I think the most important is the amount in circulation, from which we can calculate the current market capitalization of that coin. Then we need to refer to its vesting period, usually, it takes a long time for a coin to reach its maximum supply.
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the maximum supply for a project coin certainly affects the price, look at the supply from DOGE or DENT, they are very difficult to ride high, and very easy to dump, honestly I don't like
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