How long can the gov keep up the economic lie: downplaying the pandemic?

[StonksStonksStonks]

Everyday via TV citizens are reminded:
- Virus is just temporary
- Vaccine coming (it may not)
- V shaped recovery
- Deaths will be low
- Virus will magicly go away by easter  
- might do another simulus check  
- unemployment is low



The goal of these lies are to get people to keep spending and not sell 401k.
How long can keep the lies going, before people realize we're fucked

[alani123]

In the U.S. Trump and his administration made some serious mistakes with the pandemic. They downplayed it before it had even started affecting the country. And now some republicans argue that loss of revenue will cause more deaths than the pandemic itself... Well, last I checked US was a very wealthy country. If govt was more willing to allocate resources were needed people wouldn't need to die.

Currently I don't think anyone is lying about how serious the economic impact could be. The unemployment numbers are huge, many corporations already sought federal relief, and more are going to need it most likely too. EURUSD is volatile too but it seems like USD probably won't be establishing any dominance. In the long term the deaths and economic impact the US will face are probably greater.

Trump's administration focused on letting corporations survive in the short term. And likely won't let any notable corporations go bankrupt too. But federal aid to this extent is bound to devalue the currency and in turn make the buying power of every day people lower. In short, I don't see any imminent collapse of the world economy. Just a deeper crisis in the US and more corporatism in the federal budget instead of direct aid to address unemployment thanks to Trump. We'll see how well trickle down economics worked after an end of the year assessment comes around.

[StonksStonksStonks]

Currently I don't think anyone is lying about how serious the economic impact could be.

The downplaying of the virus is the lies. They keep acting like the virus would just last 2 weeks, and extended it by 2 weeks over and over. They continue to downplay the virus even holding mass gatherings of political rallies. The lies are still ongoing to fufill the agenda of dont sell your 401k and keep spending money cus everyhing is fine

[so98nn]

Everyday via TV citizens are reminded:
- Virus is just temporary
- Vaccine coming (it may not)
- V shaped recovery
- Deaths will be low
- Virus will magicly go away by easter  
- might do another simulus check  
- unemployment is low



The goal of these lies are to get people to keep spending and not sell 401k.
How long can keep the lies going, before people realize we're fucked

Scientifically & Technically speaking . .

- Virus is just temporary

Yes it is temporary. Though the nature of virus mutating one then also we have resistance for the virus with Rapid Antibody Sequencing method. Virus will get more and more recognisable in the body and at some point natural antibodies will develop to fight against it.

It won't last forever. 

- Vaccine coming (it may not)

It is definitely coming. In my organization we have already worked out 5 technologies out of which 2 are underway for human trials latest by July End. Couldnt be happier than this! It's the fastest development of any vaccine that has been made in human history. Usually it takes multiple years to even enter into Phase 2 trials.

- V shaped recovery

As soon as Vaccine will hit the market, and everyone is immunised with it, every damn corner of world will resume as before and it will boost economy (followed by recovery phase) giving out V shape. Sure it will.

- Deaths will be low

Above points make this one clear. Vaccine!

- Virus will magically go away by easter  

No this won't happen without vaccine.

- might do another simulus check  

For the sake of recovery and keeping the businesses running this might come along the way.

- unemployment is low

This is the directly dependent to all the stuff above. Whether we successfully develop vaccine, rest the whole world to normal and create employment opportunities since work demand will rise once we are to the normal state.

[StonksStonksStonks]

It is definitely coming. In my organization we have already worked out 5 technologies out of which 2 are underway for human trials latest by July End. Couldnt be happier than this! It's the fastest development of any vaccine that has been made in human history. Usually it takes multiple years to even enter into Phase 2 trials.

most of these companies devloping vaccines are nothing but pump and dumps. They are trying to sell shares of stocks to anyone stupid enough to belive they have the vaccine coming.

[Botnake]

For me that is not a lie, we just have to believe  as we are left with no choice.

Actually even if there's no cure for the virus, the economy will still live as people wants to go back working and doing their usual business.
If this new normal would take long, I think if we just follow all the protocol, I don't see we will be defeated by the virus.
This is a worldwide problem so everyone is thinking on how to solve the problem, so I don't believe that no vaccine will be discovered for the virus.

If our government is lying to us, and can't provide us the vaccine on the time frame they promise, then there's no reason to believe on the

[exstasie]

The goal of these lies are to get people to keep spending and not sell 401k.

Obviously. It's no secret the entire economy is built on consumer spending. If consumer confidence plunges (and there is every reason to believe it will if they predict doomsday instead) then we'll see another flight to cash and mega contraction in GDP.

In many ways it's a self fulfilling prophecy. Unrealistically optimistic projections and fudged unemployment numbers obviously help to slow down the bleeding. It keeps peoples' confidence up, keeps them spending and not hoarding, keeps them from panicking.

How long can keep the lies going, before people realize we're fucked

Are we actually fucked? Or is this recession just a lot worse than the White House is making it out to be?

[maydna]

The virus is still out there without knowing when it will end, and the media blow up the news by giving the number is for people to be careful when they are in the public area. We don't know if the government lies or not, but it is right that we need to concern with our health. I think we don't have to be suspicious of the lies or not because our health will be our concern, and we need to be careful to still healthy, whether if there is a virus out there or not. Perhaps, before the virus spreads, we forget to wash our hands after touching something, and the virus comes to remind us that health is essential to us, so we need to pay attention. It's about how we can take care of our health no matter if we are still in the pandemic or not.

[fiulpro]

Everyday via TV citizens are reminded:
- Virus is just temporary
- Vaccine coming (it may not)
- V shaped recovery
- Deaths will be low
- Virus will magicly go away by easter  
- might do another simulus check  
- unemployment is low



The goal of these lies are to get people to keep spending and not sell 401k.
How long can keep the lies going, before people realize we're fucked

Virus is not temporary it is going to stay just like common cold or HIV even years from now.

Vaccine will come for sure , there is no reason to believe that it might not , but it will come with some delay for sure .

V-shaped recovery is actually false , the government at many places are not letting citizens test , happened to my family , my cousin had all the symptoms but the doctor advised him to stay inside the house and just lock the gates.

Deaths will obviously be low since with time we are able to get a grip on the virus plus there are medicines which are out for the trial , I do think it will all be better in the near future.(but the virus is evolving)

That Easter thing was a stupid statement by Trump .

Then again he cannot do another stimulus check , there is not much left in the government funds and if they keep printing money , they will loose the same amount in the value affecting the economy.

Unemployment is in millions.. on the official website of the government it's stated 20-30 times lower than what the situation is.

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Never believe in statements given by Trump , he is the biggest threat to the American economy himself. Even the financial advisors believes so.

They are lying not to make sure that people don't sell , they are lying because:

 •They want to prevent problems with the general public if they really knew the situation , but at the same time they are threatening the protesters , even the stupid president himself is posting Tweets to identify protestors from BLM.

•They are trying to prove that the government did not fail :3 which it clearly did ( the queen should have done the needful while she had the chance )

[jossiel]

I'd like to lean on those words that the covid19 is just temporary until a vaccine is made. Although, there is the reality that knocks that it may stay for good and could be in line with the other diseases and viruses that's staying up to now even if a vaccine will be made.

And even if this virus will be cured, there's now the possibility that haunts most of us that there could be another deadly virus widespread that shall appear soon. As for the media telling about the death rate is low, some news is countering that argument interviewing that there are people who died from other causes which have been added as a COVID patient.

[XCANA]

For any government to dig a shithole and start covering the said hole with lies is deceit, the government had already planed this ahead of 2020, and they quite understand that her citizens will face the hard part of the pandemic. The only way to boost citizens moral is for them the government to continue with the damn lies. This won't stop until they are through with us, coronavirus has come to stay with us, the possibility of it disappear in short time is zero. They are depopulating the world which they have said some years back.

[NavI_027]

Government lying about the real status of the virus in their country or even manipulating the numbers (cases, recoveries and death)? I'm not surprised about doing such thing because sometimes lying serve as their last resort to keep their people sane and avoid the tendencies of people raging against them. Hmm, it's just like NASA not confirming the existence of aliens, CIA undergoing secret missions etc.

However, the effects of this pandemic on the economy cannot be hide. Citizens will definitely notice the bloating unemployment rate, overcrowded health facilities, hunger (like what's currently ha0pening in our country). The decrease in quality of life is pretty obvious.

- Vaccine coming (it may not)

As far as I remember there is already an Indian company which will release their vaccine very soon. The estimated time of its release is by the month of August. Correct me if I'm wrong but hoping this will happen for real .

[Coyster]

For any government to dig a shithole and start covering the said hole with lies is deceit, the government had already planed this ahead of 2020, and they quite understand that her citizens will face the hard part of the pandemic. The only way to boost citizens moral is for them the government to continue with the damn lies. This won't stop until they are through with us, coronavirus has come to stay with us, the possibility of it disappear in short time is zero. They are depopulating the world which they have said some years back.

The government had panned what? Prolly only China and the world health organization knew about corona virus before 2020, in a world were there are few allies to a country and multiple other foes, how can you think it's possible they all unite for a cause in depopulating the world, at this cost and for what benefit?

[abhiseshakana]

Everyday via TV citizens are reminded:
- Virus is just temporary
- Vaccine coming (it may not)
- V shaped recovery
- Deaths will be low
- Virus will magicly go away by easter  
- might do another simulus check  
- unemployment is low

This is because many governments are wondering what happens. They do not really understand that corona by design. If conspiracy theories are ruled out and assume pandemics by nature, in fact up to now there are no signs of a pandemic slowing down. Optimistic statements are intended to dispel public panic and slow chaos.

The goal of these lies are to get people to keep spending and not sell 401k.
How long can keep the lies going, before people realize we're fucked

Until the country is completely out of ammunition. There are those who play the game to drain the power of the state and citizens by creating a "reign of terror" with an economic blow. When state ammunition runs out, the budget deficit gets bigger, debt cannot be done, wants to print money but does not have a practical framework, the choice is for the government to hand over power to people power. If a pandemic/disaster has touched the stomach and caused hunger, the end is anarchism.

One military observer who believes that covid-19 by design explains that the global elite already has a covid-19 vaccine, it's just not released with consideration, the longer the pandemic ends the greater their targets are achieved both materially and non materially. Many countries in the world are working 24 hours to find the vaccine, only if the vaccine is found later this year, it will take about 6 months to build production facilities and infrastructure and it is believed to be per country not global.

[Mauser]

Everyday via TV citizens are reminded:
- Virus is just temporary
- Vaccine coming (it may not)
- V shaped recovery
- Deaths will be low
- Virus will magicly go away by easter  
- might do another simulus check  
- unemployment is low



The goal of these lies are to get people to keep spending and not sell 401k.
How long can keep the lies going, before people realize we're fucked

I think they are tying to downplay the corona crisis until elections in November, but this is still so far away. What if the numbers keep rising until autumn this year? Everyone can check the statistics themself, there is no point in believing the various TV news when there are statistics online available. It looks really bad at the moment.

[akram143]

Everyday via TV citizens are reminded:
- Virus is just temporary
- Vaccine coming (it may not)
- V shaped recovery
- Deaths will be low
- Virus will magicly go away by easter  
- might do another simulus check  
- unemployment is low



The goal of these lies are to get people to keep spending and not sell 401k.
How long can keep the lies going, before people realize we're fucked

Seriously anyone still believing these lies? The reality is virus may not go away from us in near future so some governments publicly announced that we should learn how to live with it.This pandemic makes everyone to realize that we are just another species not the superior of all the world.

We have to save us from this pandemic, social distancing is the only real weapon we have for now.

[Naida_BR]

The real results of the pandemic is going to be visible at the start of 2021.
Right now we cannot understand what is happening as the condition is still ongoing.
We are going to face a real economic disaster and the results are going to be displayed on March 2021.

[squatz1]

Depends on the news channel that your watching.

Some continue to tell that you the virus is temporary, the death rate isn't that high, and that infections don't mean that much b/c it's just young people who are getting it.

Others will talk about the rising infection rates, rising infections as a number of test (percentage), continuing to close is necessary, and so on and so forth.

[BADecker]

Then there's Tucker on Fox.     

[SacriFries11]

Government are not being transparent for the data they collecting regarding the positive cases of the pandemic. They downplaying the pandemic since most cases are asymptomatic and fatality is not high as of now. They reopen businesses in order to recover the economy.  Government need to balance the two of these. They need to reopen without sacrificing the health of the community. In my country, I think they need to implement again the protocol regarding the quarantine rules more strictly to minimize the people going outside their home. This will reduce the possibility of being infected. Improving the support for health workers, more PPE and additional health workers.