Band-aid solution for the bitcoin.org dilemma?

[Wind_FURY]

Shower thought, would it be a good move for theymos to copy all content from bitcoin.org and serve it through bitcointalk.org, and move the forum to forum.bitcointalk.org?

[Nalbo]

Never heard stupider idea.
Why would he even do that.
Bitcoin.org remain with the bitcoin community. And even if we went through transfer of ownership (from cobra), it would remain within bitcoin community.

[20kevin20]

I guess it could be a good thing to keep a backup and do this in case something goes wrong with the current bitcoin.org website? Like, is there any need right now to copy the stuff to the bitcointalk.org domain?

Anyways, I think there shouldn't need to be any issue even if the bitcoin.org ownership somehow goes wrong, as long as the website still continues to show and promote the correct information about Bitcoin (unlike bitcoin.com). Is there anything I'm missing?

[mk4]

Err, but what would this solve though? Doesn't look like a band-aid solution for anything. The Bitcoin.org domain is mostly what's significant, not necessarily the content.

I guess it could be a good thing to keep a backup and do this in case something goes wrong with the current bitcoin.org website? Like, is there any need right now to copy the stuff to the bitcointalk.org domain?

Probably not necessary. Thankfully, we have the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20200630141011/https://bitcoin.org/en/

[Wind_FURY]

Never heard stupider idea.
Why would he even do that.
Bitcoin.org remain with the bitcoin community. And even if we went through transfer of ownership (from cobra), it would remain within bitcoin community.

Would consider it stupid if ownership/control of the domain goes to someone like Roger Ver?

Err, but what would this solve though? Doesn't look like a band-aid solution for anything. The Bitcoin.org domain is mostly what's significant, not necessarily the content.

It would solve something in case the bitcoin.org domain goes to someone who might use it as a socio-political attack against Bitcoin. bitcointalk.org is significant too.

Cobra wants to give up ownership/control in case you haven't heard the news.

[DooMAD]

Probably not necessary. Thankfully, we have the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20200630141011/https://bitcoin.org/en/

And if anyone is that concerned, rather than relying on this site, surely they can make a copy of their own and upload it somewhere for safe keeping.  More decentralised and such.

[Wind_FURY]

Probably not necessary. Thankfully, we have the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20200630141011/https://bitcoin.org/en/

And if anyone is that concerned, rather than relying on this site, surely they can make a copy of their own and upload it somewhere for safe keeping.  More decentralised and such.

Serving the content might not be the only point though. The domain serving it must have some significance in the community IN CASE bitcoin.org was compromised to promote a forked shitcoin. A domain we can say, "YES that's Bitcoin".

Maybe I'm shower-thinking too much?

[davis196]

Shower thought, would it be a good move for theymos to copy all content from bitcoin.org and serve it through bitcointalk.org, and move the forum to forum.bitcointalk.org?

Copying content can only happen with the permission of the authors of the mentioned content.
I don't know who owns all the text content,that's posted on a forum.The forum owner/admin or the members,who are creating the content?I've never though about this question so far.
I think that forums fall under the Web 2.0 category,alongside article directories and websites like Medium and Hubpages,where all the articles created by the authors become property of the platform(If I remember this correctly).
Anyway,Bitcoin.org will be just fine and I don't think that Cobra is going to abandon that forum anytime soon.

[fiulpro]

Shower thought, would it be a good move for theymos to copy all content from bitcoin.org and serve it through bitcointalk.org, and move the forum to forum.bitcointalk.org?

Unfortunately I do not think it is a good idea to do something like that 😅 , here are the reasons why I stand with my point:

•It would need permissions of both the parties and even if one declines nothing like this could ever happen.

•There would be problems regarding the system that we have right now here , you cannot just copy exactly everything , it would take a lot of time which would mean that for a while the whole forum will be inactive.

•It will need a techno expert , a lot of time plus permissions of not only both the parties but permission of the members registered here too to use their personal data .

•I do believe that forum is pretty simple and all this might result in some privacy problems.

•You should know that even if the domain was sold to any kind of person who personally might and might be goal oriented in terms of cryptocurrencies and such , he or she won't ever create problems for the forum , it will still work fine .

• Do you ever think that Cobra would ever hand it over to someone who would destroy the whole thing ??
  

I guess it could be a good thing to keep a backup and do this in case something goes wrong with the current bitcoin.org website? Like, is there any need right now to copy the stuff to the bitcointalk.org domain?

I might agree with the idea of a backup but then again it is technically unnecessary right now and would need a lot of time and effort for the same.

Right now I agree with you that it's working just fine.

Never heard stupider idea.
Why would he even do that.
Bitcoin.org remain with the bitcoin community. And even if we went through transfer of ownership (from cobra), it would remain within bitcoin community.

Would consider it stupid if ownership/control of the domain goes to someone like Roger Ver?

Err, but what would this solve though? Doesn't look like a band-aid solution for anything. The Bitcoin.org domain is mostly what's significant, not necessarily the content.

The content is what makes the domain significant!! There are people here working for the benefits of others , there are companies and firms here coming forth to provide solutions and alternatives.

It's NOT THE DOMAIN , it's the people who matters .

[gentlemand]

What dilemma?

Cobra said he has someone lined up to take it over who is a longstanding figure in Bitcoin. Dunno who they are but he got this far without throwing it away. I expect he'll choose the right person to continue it.

I still think it should be trashed or turned into a gurning dimwit of a site.

[hd49728]

Shower thought, would it be a good move for theymos to copy all content from bitcoin.org and serve it through bitcointalk.org, and move the forum to forum.bitcointalk.org?

A shower thought should be explained clearer. 

They are different sites: bitcoin.org and bitcointalk.org and 3 months ago theymos wrote the announcement for the community: Domain name update. Since that day, the two sites have been totally operated separately. They have operated separately for years but theymos' announcement make the fact more clearly for people who misunderstood about it for years.

Therefore, we decided to separate the domains: I no longer have any access to the bitcoin.org domain name, and Cøbra no longer has any access to the bitcointalk.org domain name. The two sites should be viewed as totally separate, which in practice they have been for years.

[ABCbits]

Should i mention that https://bitcoin.org/ source code is available on their GitHub repository at https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org ?

Besides i don't see how it it solve the dilemma, since https://bitcoin.org/ domain is quite valuable.

[buwaytress]

Much as I like the idea of preserving that site as is, I don't think anyone that needs it will miss it if it goes. Not like newbies go there to find things out. People who think one "official" source is the right source probably already go to bitcoin.com or follow the true Satoshi and the original vision of Bitcoin (I'm not sure what it is, I'm just Bitcoin).

[CardHerald]

The name of the forum is Bitcoin forum, and the formula is Bitcointalk, so the forum focuses on discussions between members and not a site to display information or reference for Bitcoin.
It is better to leave things as they are, as the forum is for discussion and talk about bitcoin in bitcoin.org.
admin does not has access to the forum, and he will not change.
Why do not you say the extension to wiki.bitcointalk.org.

[Tipstar]

The topic seems to be : Is Cobra trustable? Are we keeping backups?

Yes, the content on bitcoin.org are on github and is open source, could be forked anytime if the owner goes rough.
IMO Cobra's love for bitcoin is no less than ours. He thinks and talks openly but he is much more stable and capable enough to make the right decision.
There's a talk in bitcointalk. If theymos is to come up with a new website for bitcoin it would be something else.

[ChiBitCTy]

Shower thought, would it be a good move for theymos to copy all content from bitcoin.org and serve it through bitcointalk.org, and move the forum to forum.bitcointalk.org?

I don't think there is really any reason to mix the two websites.  I think bitcointalk.org has it's own use case as well as bitcoin.org.  There's a reason that Satoshi created both websites separately ( if I am not mistaken).

[Ucy]

I guess the "talk" in bitcointalk.org makes it more appropriate for discussion forum like this.  Some people will immediately think it's a discussion site for Bitcoin once the "talk" is noticed. Anything wrong with bitcoin.org?

[hatshepsut93]

I don't see any dilemma here, it's not like bitcoin.org was compromised and started hosting some anti-Bitcoin or other inappropriate content. If that will happen, then it will be a time to think before solutions, but before that, let's not be hasty and create more confusion with competing sites and so on. So far we have just some small, local drama that doesn't affect the community as a whole.

[notblox1]

Shower thought, would it be a good move for theymos to copy all content from bitcoin.org and serve it through bitcointalk.org, and move the forum to forum.bitcointalk.org?

Why would theymos need to copy anything from bitcoin.org website?
All content on that website is free and it is released under MIT license, but there is nothing special there that I didn't see on bitcointalk forum also.
Maybe we can have our own version website with subdomain like web.bitcointalk.org for example

[BrewMaster]

such action, alongside topics like this, would only create "dilemma" where there were none. there is nothing wrong with bitcoin.org right now and there is no indication of anything wanting to go wrong in near future for anyone to want to make any kind of move.