E-mail spam from the Trumpsteins

[tvbcof]

Just FTR, I made a financial contribution to Trump for the 2016 election because I was pissed off at the Dems for gloating over the fact that Hillary was outspending Trump 2-to-1.

Of course I used a special single-purpose e-mail address which I do for most such things so that I could detect who is responsible for further spam.

Mostly it is this clan of Frankist creeps spaming me, but they did give my addy to Gingrich by the looks of things, or they let him use their spam platform...I didn't bother to read the message.  Anyway, here is the spam I've received in just the last 2 days, and we are only half way through the 2nd day!:

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DonaldJTrump.com	National Garden of American Heroes					8:31 AM 
Donald Trump Jr.	Why are you ignoring my father?  - He's not happy about it.		6:11 AM
Eric Trump		Time-sensitive offer - My father is counting on YOU.			3:51 AM
Donald Trump Jr.	Florida looks good on you - Win the trip of a lifetime.			1:31 AM
Eric Trump		My dad needs you - Time-sensitive offer.				Jul 6
Donald J. Trump		USA USA USA -								Jul 6
Meet President Trump	CONFIRMATION # 20xxxx Are you ready to go?				Jul 6
Eric Trump		Last chance to join - President Trump is counting on you.		Jul 6
DonaldJTrump.com	HUGE Trump 4th of July sale - There's not much time left to shop.	Jul 6

Google is automatically filtering these shit-head's messages to spam without my asking.  I don't agree with them for doing this, but I happen to be thankful for it so I'm not complaining.  They sent a recent domain support ticket correspondence to spam as well so we know what to expect in terms of bugs when they run the entire society and cashless monetary system on their AI.  That is, lots of errors and nobody to complain about because, you know, 'the system.'

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[TECSHARE]

Sure it is agitating, but can you blame them? They are being systematically denied access to pretty much every online platform.

[Fallenkeith75]

Sure it is agitating, but can you blame them? They are being systematically denied access to pretty much every online platform.

Pretty sure all that spam will turn people off though. Alot of people who see it in their inbox will probably mark the sending address as a spammer too which will probably end up hurting them more then helping imo

[tvbcof]

Sure it is agitating, but can you blame them? They are being systematically denied access to pretty much every online platform.

So, drop a massive steamer in the one thing you've got left?  Genius!

[tvbcof]

Sure it is agitating, but can you blame them? They are being systematically denied access to pretty much every online platform.

Pretty sure all that spam will turn people off though. Alot of people who see it in their inbox will probably mark the sending address as a spammer too which will probably end up hurting them more then helping imo

I got the spam in my inbox again after looking at one of the Trump brothers mails [don't remember if it was Bevis or Butthead].

I promptly reported it as spam and categorized it for Google AI as 'just spam'.  Come to think of it I may have done that a while ago and that could be why Google is 'doing a brother a favor' by shit-canning the disgusting Drumpfstein spam for me.

Actually I did read a couple of these spams for the purposes of system analysis.  I must say that judging from the textural content of these spams, the 'bitter clingers' who still hold out any hope for Trump are truly the bottom-dwellers in American society with respect to apparent intellect.  Thankfully I don't live there any more so their existence is not my problem.  The ones on the Dem side are even worse.  It pains me to say it since it includes some of my most dear family, but 'it is what it is.'

[Spendulus]

Sure it is agitating, but can you blame them? They are being systematically denied access to pretty much every online platform.

Pretty sure all that spam will turn people off though. Alot of people who see it in their inbox will probably mark the sending address as a spammer too which will probably end up hurting them more then helping imo

I got the spam in my inbox again after looking at one of the Trump brothers mails [don't remember if it was Bevis or Butthead].

I promptly reported it as spam and categorized it for Google AI as 'just spam'.  Come to think of it I may have done that a while ago and that could be why Google is 'doing a brother a favor' by shit-canning the disgusting Drumpfstein spam for me.

Actually I did read a couple of these spams for the purposes of system analysis.  I must say that judging from the textural content of these spams, the 'bitter clingers' who still hold out any hope for Trump are truly the bottom-dwellers in American society with respect to apparent intellect.  Thankfully I don't live there any more so their existence is not my problem.  The ones on the Dem side are even worse.  It pains me to say it since it includes some of my most dear family, but 'it is what it is.'

Spam is spam, whether it's "On your political (or whatever)" side or not.

If you doubt this, guess if you respond to it, what's the chance the money goes to Your Favorite instead of a Nigerian spammer?

10%?

[Gyfts]

This was a big deal during the midterm elections when the senate had some competitive races. I remember Ted Cruz and Beto O'Rourke's race raised record setting numbers, iirc the total money raised during that race was the highest in a senate race ever. They did nothing but spam people's emails begging for money.

[Spendulus]

This was a big deal during the midterm elections when the senate had some competitive races. I remember Ted Cruz and Beto O'Rourke's race raised record setting numbers, iirc the total money raised during that race was the highest in a senate race ever. They did nothing but spam people's emails begging for money.

IIRC O'Rourke's money was preset in large part. But he also had some interesting and very spammy phone call solicitations, message traffic, yard and car stickers.

[tvbcof]

Here's an update from part way through today:

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Trump Leaderboard	Your name is MISSING - President Trump needs you.  			9:16 am
Eric Trump		Your personal 500%-match offer - Don't let the President down.  	9:08 am
Donald J. Trump		Become a member of the official Trump VIP Club. - There's only one step	7:10 am
DonaldJTrump.com	TODAY ONLY - Trump-Pence 2020 Flags ON SALE.  				7:09 am
Eric Trump		Win VIP access - You won't get this opportunity again. 			5:08 am
DonaldJTrump.com	Stop Leftist Anarchists - Enough is enough.  				4:41 am
Trump Flash Sale	Order Confirmation # 20xxxx - Your order will ship soon.		3:17 am
Donald J. Trump		Reserved for you - Limited-edition PERSONALIZED Trump-Pence 2020 Welco	1:08 am

I especially like the 'Order Confirmation' one.  Classic trick against REALLY REALLY stupid people.

Trump and all his Israel First friends are just trying to suck every resource possible out of the U.S. and the American people before they pull the plug.  Even just a few shekles in contributions.  The Trump organization makes Rev. Jim Baker and the 'Love Gift' Christian evangelical scammers look like saints.  And they are targeting the same pathetic dopes which is fitting.

[squatz1]

Here's an update from part way through today:

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Trump Leaderboard	Your name is MISSING - President Trump needs you.  			9:16 am
Eric Trump		Your personal 500%-match offer - Don't let the President down.  	9:08 am
Donald J. Trump		Become a member of the official Trump VIP Club. - There's only one step	7:10 am
DonaldJTrump.com	TODAY ONLY - Trump-Pence 2020 Flags ON SALE.  				7:09 am
Eric Trump		Win VIP access - You won't get this opportunity again. 			5:08 am
DonaldJTrump.com	Stop Leftist Anarchists - Enough is enough.  				4:41 am
Trump Flash Sale	Order Confirmation # 20xxxx - Your order will ship soon.		3:17 am
Donald J. Trump		Reserved for you - Limited-edition PERSONALIZED Trump-Pence 2020 Welco	1:08 am

I especially like the 'Order Confirmation' one.  Classic trick against REALLY REALLY stupid people.

Trump and all his Israel First friends are just trying to suck every resource possible out of the U.S. and the American people before they pull the plug.  Even just a few shekles in contributions.  The Trump organization makes Rev. Jim Baker and the 'Love Gift' Christian evangelical scammers look like saints.  And they are targeting the same pathetic dopes which is fitting.

"Your Order Will Ship Soon" ugh.... What in gods name was the content of this email? Pretty gross way of confusing regular people into thinking that they bought something from the campaign or from some random store.

I wouldn't say that this is just the Trump campaign doing this, or members of the GOP, I think that this is the norm for most campaigns and people in political positions trying to raise money. Especially on the scale of the President, where you need to raise hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm assuming that the RNC and DNC have to do the same sort of thing.

Not sure on if anyone else uses the "Your Order will Ship Soon" -- or something like this in terms of a very scammy tactic.

[tvbcof]

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I especially like the 'Order Confirmation' one.  Classic trick against REALLY REALLY stupid people.
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"Your Order Will Ship Soon" ugh.... What in gods name was the content of this email? Pretty gross way of confusing regular people into thinking that they bought something from the campaign or from some random store.

I wouldn't say that this is just the Trump campaign doing this, or members of the GOP, I think that this is the norm for most campaigns and people in political positions trying to raise money. Especially on the scale of the President, where you need to raise hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm assuming that the RNC and DNC have to do the same sort of thing.

Not sure on if anyone else uses the "Your Order will Ship Soon" -- or something like this in terms of a very scammy tactic.

I went back to actually look at the mail to make sure it was sent to my Trump-email-only address.  It was.  Below is the text.  It was pure bait-n-switch.  Nothing about 'my order' in the body whatsoever.  What utter slimeballs these people are!

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                Trump Pence Make America Great Again
 
                       YOU’VE BEEN SELECTED!

{first_name},

We have an EXCLUSIVE offer just for YOU.

President Trump chose 50 of his TOP Patriots that he wanted to give one of our
Official 2020 Keep America Great Hats to, and YOU were one of them.

All you have to do is contribute $30 in the NEXT HOUR, and we’ll send you one
of our ICONIC Keep America Great Hats FOR FREE.

This one-time offer is only available to you for ONE HOUR, {first_name}.
After that, we’ll be forced to release your FREE hat to the next Patriot.
 
Please contribute $30 IMMEDIATELY to claim your FREE 2020 Keep America Great Hat. >>
 
Keep America Great Hats
 
         CONTRIBUTE $250
 
         CONTRIBUTE $100
 
         CONTRIBUTE $50
 
         CONTRIBUTE $30
 
        CONTRIBUTE ANY AMOUNT

President Trump REALLY wants you to have this hat, {first_name}.

We can only hold it for you for ONE HOUR before we release it to the next Patriot
in line, so DON’T WAIT.

Just contribute $30 NOW and we’ll send you one of our ICONIC 2020 Keep America
Great Hats for FREE.

Thank you,

Team Trump 2020
 
 
  CONTRIBUTE $30

Some of the lines above seemed to be URL's with unique tracking tokens and what-not.

[DaveF]

There was a donor list hack of the GOP back in 2016, and another in 2018 so it might not be the Trumpsteins per say.
That address might be in other lists by now that have then been bought / recycled back into their lists.

Remember, they are out trying to get donations, so they buy a list of known donators.
That list was populated by whoever, that person makes money by selling emails and such.
Where did they get their data from? Oh, look a list of 200,000 donors just sitting out there on some TOR site and I have seen the CSV version pop up on some torrent sites now and then.

It was also being passed around DefCon and some other tech / security conventions.

-Dave

[squatz1]

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I especially like the 'Order Confirmation' one.  Classic trick against REALLY REALLY stupid people.
...

"Your Order Will Ship Soon" ugh.... What in gods name was the content of this email? Pretty gross way of confusing regular people into thinking that they bought something from the campaign or from some random store.

I wouldn't say that this is just the Trump campaign doing this, or members of the GOP, I think that this is the norm for most campaigns and people in political positions trying to raise money. Especially on the scale of the President, where you need to raise hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm assuming that the RNC and DNC have to do the same sort of thing.

Not sure on if anyone else uses the "Your Order will Ship Soon" -- or something like this in terms of a very scammy tactic.

I went back to actually look at the mail to make sure it was sent to my Trump-email-only address.  It was.  Below is the text.  It was pure bait-n-switch.  Nothing about 'my order' in the body whatsoever.  What utter slimeballs these people are!

Code:

                Trump Pence Make America Great Again
 
                       YOU’VE BEEN SELECTED!

{first_name},

We have an EXCLUSIVE offer just for YOU.

President Trump chose 50 of his TOP Patriots that he wanted to give one of our
Official 2020 Keep America Great Hats to, and YOU were one of them.

All you have to do is contribute $30 in the NEXT HOUR, and we’ll send you one
of our ICONIC Keep America Great Hats FOR FREE.

This one-time offer is only available to you for ONE HOUR, {first_name}.
After that, we’ll be forced to release your FREE hat to the next Patriot.
 
Please contribute $30 IMMEDIATELY to claim your FREE 2020 Keep America Great Hat. >>
 
Keep America Great Hats
 
         CONTRIBUTE $250
 
         CONTRIBUTE $100
 
         CONTRIBUTE $50
 
         CONTRIBUTE $30
 
        CONTRIBUTE ANY AMOUNT

President Trump REALLY wants you to have this hat, {first_name}.

We can only hold it for you for ONE HOUR before we release it to the next Patriot
in line, so DON’T WAIT.

Just contribute $30 NOW and we’ll send you one of our ICONIC 2020 Keep America
Great Hats for FREE.

Thank you,

Team Trump 2020
 
 
  CONTRIBUTE $30

Some of the lines above seemed to be URL's with unique tracking tokens and what-not.

Ugh, that's just such a scummy tactic that it's absolutely disgusting that this is being done. As you said before, for unsuspecting people this is what is going to lure them into looking at the email and then maybe throwing a few bucks at the campaign. Would love to know the internal data from the Trump campaign and RNC in seeing how effective this actually is.

"Please contribute $30 IMMEDIATELY to claim your FREE 2020 Keep America Great Hat. >>" -- I'm guessing this is the 'order' they're referring too. Because if you DONATE (PAY) then you get a FREE (YOU PAID) hat.

As I said before though, buying email lists and doing all this sort of email spamming is pretty common in political campaigns.

[Spendulus]

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As I said before though, buying email lists and doing all this sort of email spamming is pretty common in political campaigns.

But don't forget that few people authenticate than an email actually came from where it says it did.

Their donations to Trump may benefit Egyptian teenagers.

[squatz1]

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As I said before though, buying email lists and doing all this sort of email spamming is pretty common in political campaigns.

But don't forget that few people authenticate than an email actually came from where it says it did.

Their donations to Trump may benefit Egyptian teenagers.

That's actually something that I hadn't thought of, especially regarding the fact that that would be a very quick way for these internet scammers to make a few bucks.

The people that are most likely going to donate to a political campaign, and especially the Trump campaign, are going to be people who are older and don't understand technology that well. If you can just make the 'sender' say DONALD J TRUMP or something along those lines, and make the landing page look legit off, you can steal a couple bucks from unsuspecting people who think they're giving to the President.

[tvbcof]

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As I said before though, buying email lists and doing all this sort of email spamming is pretty common in political campaigns.

But don't forget that few people authenticate than an email actually came from where it says it did.

Their donations to Trump may benefit Egyptian teenagers.

That's actually something that I hadn't thought of, especially regarding the fact that that would be a very quick way for these internet scammers to make a few bucks.

The people that are most likely going to donate to a political campaign, and especially the Trump campaign, are going to be people who are older and don't understand technology that well. If you can just make the 'sender' say DONALD J TRUMP or something along those lines, and make the landing page look legit off, you can steal a couple bucks from unsuspecting people who think they're giving to the President.

Nope.  The very best way to paint this is that the Trumpsteins got hacked and lost my trump-only email addy.  Second best would be that they sold it.  Neither of these theories hold much water, though, because they have both DKIM and DMARC configured:

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Original Message
Message ID	<8d.................................7@ind1s01mta604.xt.local>
Created at:	Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:52 AM (Delivered after 4 seconds)
From:		Lara Trump <contact@victory.donaldtrump.com>
To:		{trum-only-name}@{my-domain}.com
Subject:	You¿re 1 out of 100
SPF:		FAIL with IP 209.85.220.69 Learn more
DKIM:		'PASS' with domain victory.donaldtrump.com Learn more
DMARC:		'PASS' Learn more

The rather obvious implication is that the Trump/Kushner clan are spammers of the lowest order...among other things that they are.

Just for the fun of it, here is my daily haul of spam from these maggots since the last report yesterday:

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Lara Trump		You¿re 1 out of 100 - Congratulations!					10:53 am
Donald Trump Jr.	This is urgent - Don't share this with anyone.				9:51 am
Newt Gingrich		We¿re fighting a broken system - President Trump needs YOUR help.	8:28 am
Trump American Defende	Help President Trump defend America -					7:21 am
DonaldJTrump.com	{first_name}'s name framed in the President's office -			4:38 am
Donald Trump Jr.	I think you would be a great fit - Don't miss your chance.		3:21 am 
Donald J. Trump		Here¿s your winner... -							2:28 am
Trump Flash Sale	Our Keep America Great Hats - Get one for FREE.				1:46 am
Trump Flash Sale	Our Keep America Great Hats - Get one for FREE.				12:38 am
Lara Trump		Re: I have a message for {first name} -					Jul 8

And here's the letter that 'Lara' sent me:

Code:

{first_name},

Where have you been?

I just found out that you STILL haven¿t accepted your invitation to join the Trump 100 Club and I wanted
to reach out to give you one more chance to join.

Because you¿ve always been such a loyal Patriot in the past, I¿ve been authorized to EXTEND your offer
until 11:59 PM TONIGHT.

After tonight, your offer may be given to the next supporter in line who¿s ready to fight for their President.

My husband, Eric, joined, Don Jr. joined, and so did Alex from Wisconsin! We¿re just waiting on you now, {first_name}.

Please contribute $100 TODAY to join the Trump 100 Club. >>
 
Trump 100 Club

CONTRIBUTE $400
 
CONTRIBUTE $300
 
CONTRIBUTE $200
 
CONTRIBUTE $100
 
CONTRIBUTE ANY AMOUNT
 
President Trump needs to know that he can count on you right now, {first_name}.

He only selected his TOP 100 supporters to join this prestigious club, and I know he¿ll be
disappointed if I have to report back that you passed up this opportunity.

Please contribute $100 by 11:59 PM TONIGHT to join the Trump 100 Club and help us win
BIG in November.
 
Thank you,

Lara Trump Signature Headshot
Lara Trump
Senior Advisor
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.
 
 
  CONTRIBUTE $100

[squatz1]

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As I said before though, buying email lists and doing all this sort of email spamming is pretty common in political campaigns.

But don't forget that few people authenticate than an email actually came from where it says it did.

Their donations to Trump may benefit Egyptian teenagers.

That's actually something that I hadn't thought of, especially regarding the fact that that would be a very quick way for these internet scammers to make a few bucks.

The people that are most likely going to donate to a political campaign, and especially the Trump campaign, are going to be people who are older and don't understand technology that well. If you can just make the 'sender' say DONALD J TRUMP or something along those lines, and make the landing page look legit off, you can steal a couple bucks from unsuspecting people who think they're giving to the President.

Nope.  The very best way to paint this is that the Trumpsteins got hacked and lost my trump-only email addy.  Second best would be that they sold it.  Neither of these theories hold much water, though, because they have both DKIM and DMARC configured:

Code:

Original Message
Message ID	<8d.................................7@ind1s01mta604.xt.local>
Created at:	Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:52 AM (Delivered after 4 seconds)
From:		Lara Trump <contact@victory.donaldtrump.com>
To:		{trum-only-name}@{my-domain}.com
Subject:	You¿re 1 out of 100
SPF:		FAIL with IP 209.85.220.69 Learn more
DKIM:		'PASS' with domain victory.donaldtrump.com Learn more
DMARC:		'PASS' Learn more

The rather obvious implication is that the Trump/Kushner clan are spammers of the lowest order...among other things that they are.

Just for the fun of it, here is my daily haul of spam from these maggots since the last report yesterday:

Code:

Lara Trump		You¿re 1 out of 100 - Congratulations!					10:53 am
Donald Trump Jr.	This is urgent - Don't share this with anyone.				9:51 am
Newt Gingrich		We¿re fighting a broken system - President Trump needs YOUR help.	8:28 am
Trump American Defende	Help President Trump defend America -					7:21 am
DonaldJTrump.com	{first_name}'s name framed in the President's office -			4:38 am
Donald Trump Jr.	I think you would be a great fit - Don't miss your chance.		3:21 am 
Donald J. Trump		Here¿s your winner... -							2:28 am
Trump Flash Sale	Our Keep America Great Hats - Get one for FREE.				1:46 am
Trump Flash Sale	Our Keep America Great Hats - Get one for FREE.				12:38 am
Lara Trump		Re: I have a message for {first name} -					Jul 8

And here's the letter that 'Lara' sent me:

Code:

{first_name},

Where have you been?

I just found out that you STILL haven¿t accepted your invitation to join the Trump 100 Club and I wanted
to reach out to give you one more chance to join.

Because you¿ve always been such a loyal Patriot in the past, I¿ve been authorized to EXTEND your offer
until 11:59 PM TONIGHT.

After tonight, your offer may be given to the next supporter in line who¿s ready to fight for their President.

My husband, Eric, joined, Don Jr. joined, and so did Alex from Wisconsin! We¿re just waiting on you now, {first_name}.

Please contribute $100 TODAY to join the Trump 100 Club. >>
 
Trump 100 Club

CONTRIBUTE $400
 
CONTRIBUTE $300
 
CONTRIBUTE $200
 
CONTRIBUTE $100
 
CONTRIBUTE ANY AMOUNT
 
President Trump needs to know that he can count on you right now, {first_name}.

He only selected his TOP 100 supporters to join this prestigious club, and I know he¿ll be
disappointed if I have to report back that you passed up this opportunity.

Please contribute $100 by 11:59 PM TONIGHT to join the Trump 100 Club and help us win
BIG in November.
 
Thank you,

Lara Trump Signature Headshot
Lara Trump
Senior Advisor
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.
 
 
  CONTRIBUTE $100

Was just spitballing with Spendulus regarding what could be. Given the amount of spam that political campaigns send out, it would make sense that someone would take advantage of this.

But thats insane that they've sent that many emails in one day. That's literally 9 emails within 1 day period. Lord if that was on my personal email I'd be VERY angry.

Are you doing anything with the emails to show some sort of engagement? Maybe opening the email or clicking a link inside of it or something like that. I know that usually will continue the automated process of sending more emails.

[suchmoon]

But thats insane that they've sent that many emails in one day. That's literally 9 emails within 1 day period. Lord if that was on my personal email I'd be VERY angry.

I'd be angry if these e-mails come without a link to unsubscribe. Otherwise - meh. Spammers gonna spam but as long as you can unspam them - fair game. But how they obtained the e-mail address seems to be the more interesting part of the story. I'm guessing there was a fine print along with the OP's original donation that basically said "we can do whatever we want with your personal info, including using it to spam you indefinitely and giving it to other spammers".

[squatz1]

But thats insane that they've sent that many emails in one day. That's literally 9 emails within 1 day period. Lord if that was on my personal email I'd be VERY angry.

I'd be angry if these e-mails come without a link to unsubscribe. Otherwise - meh. Spammers gonna spam but as long as you can unspam them - fair game. But how they obtained the e-mail address seems to be the more interesting part of the story. I'm guessing there was a fine print along with the OP's original donation that basically said "we can do whatever we want with your personal info, including using it to spam you indefinitely and giving it to other spammers".

Going to assume that all of these emails have links to unsubscribe in them, even if they weren't fully copied over when  tvbcof posted the emails on here. Probably just pretty far down in the email to hide the fact that you actually can unsubscribe.

Here's some info on the Trump campaign selling your email and other info around for $$$$ -

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/06/email-list-for-sale-2020-candidates-are-paying/

and another

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-campaign-selling-email-and-phone-lists-for-millions-of-supporters/

[Spendulus]

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Here's some info on the Trump campaign selling your email and other info around for $$$$ -
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Probably exactly the same thing going on regardless of party affiliation, right?