Alt of game-protect?

[dkbit98]

Except it wasn't. gosha@e-coin copied betnomi's response, as LoyceV's archive shows. I can't think of a reason for sockpuppets to do that.

Yes you are right, so I removed neutral feedback, and I am a bit tired now to research this deeper.

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[zidanw]

What if Betnomi logged in wrong and messed up with copy? It is a very strange situation.
Suppose Betnomi made a post, but the post was not good after all in his eyes. Then he post this with Betnomi, but then realized he used the wrong account and then copy paste from translation, and things messed up.
There are many cases possible. Or maybe Gosha is indeed trying to set Betnomi up. ican not find the post anymore now, so somebody is trying to cover traces.

[betnomi]

What if Betnomi logged in wrong and messed up with copy? It is a very strange situation.
Suppose Betnomi made a post, but the post was not good after all in his eyes. Then he post this with Betnomi, but then realized he used the wrong account and then copy paste from translation, and things messed up.
There are many cases possible. Or maybe Gosha is indeed trying to set Betnomi up. ican not find the post anymore now, so somebody is trying to cover traces.

This is an interesting theory. Maybe you should look at the archives and the times here.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352590.html (gosha@e-coin)

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352601.html (betnomi)


Looking at this and the time difference, you would have to assume, 1. I made a post/ reply with the "game protect account" then after one minute, i decided to go reply the same comment with the "betnomi account"
then i came back to edit the game protect account post to match exactly as the betnomi post or however you want to explain it.

Congratulations! Its kinda sad i would have to be responding to stuffs like this. One aimless guy trying to troll/ set us up and now, everyone has to waste their precious time on this.

[AB de Royse777]

Seems that Game Protect AKA Gosha@e-coin started a new casino for his own: Betnomi.com
He made a mistake by logging in with the wrong account and made a post:

True story. Original post was different than one in the screenshot but still shows they're the same person: Hmmmm.... maybe not. Could be clever setup.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352590.html (gosha@e-coin)

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https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352601.html (betnomi)

We appreciate the positive outlook on our website. Just kindly asking everyone gives us a few days to get everything together and tie up all loose ends.  Its going to be 🔥 and a lot of fun.

Regarding withdrawals, there is a 24 hour limit of 100,000 Euros. Ie, for every 24 hours, a user can withdrawal up to 100,000 Euros.

I am speechless. This is the lowest moral one could have. gosha@e-coin aka game-protect is a danger for the community.

I was surprise to see so many email notifications for this post on a sudden. And checked the new post to find out the reason and I can not believe my eyes. Thank god that we have LoyceV's tool to check the fake done by gosha@e-coin. So it was like this:
- gosha@e-coin made a comment
- betnomi made a post
- gosha@e-coin edited the comment he maid earlier with the same content that betnomi posted.

- Now it looks like this :

"gosha@e-coin thought he was making a post from betnomi account but later he realized that he posted it from the wrong account, and then he logged in to his betnomi account and made the same post. Us - we fool will think betnomi is an alt of gosha@e-coin and then tag betnomi "

Except some of us - we are not that fool.

Now the question is:
Is this a plagiarism?
I bet it is 100% plagiarism. A new topic is about to pop up in the meta section. Give me few minutes.

Edit: To me this is a tag worthy moral so I left a red tag for gosha@e-coin.

[suchmoon]

Is this a plagiarism?

Good point. Perhaps gosha/GP wasn't aiming to impersonate betnomi but rather frame betnomi for plagiarism

Now that post has been removed so I don't think moderators would act on a deleted post.

[AB de Royse777]

Now that post has been removed so I don't think moderators would act on a deleted post.

With enough evidence I think this should be done.

If someone plagiarizes and then delete it after getting caught and that helps them to get not banned then this will be very frustrating. Any rules breaking needs evidence and I hope I presented enough on this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281276.0

[gosha@e-coin]

I felt it was time to take action in this topic, as things went wrong now. What happened yesterday, has nothing to do with Plagiarism.
In fact, I am working with the owner of Betnomi together and we run the site. At first sight, I do not want to tell this but now my name is slandered and Betnomi got away as the good guy, that goes moral to far for me.
Of course you will not believe me, since I have no evidence further. A few months ago, Betnomi invited me to work for them as official manager for their site here on the forum.
After that, we communicated on Telegram. I do not have the conversations on the forum anymore, as Betnomi asked me to delete that. I can assure you it is the truth, and admin from the site here can 100% confirm that that message has been send to me from Betnomi with the invitation to work for them. Yesterday there was a miscommunication between me and Betnomi, we spoke on Telegram about the text to reply, and then we both posted it, after he said my reply was not decent enough. That is the only truth. You should not Tag me, but Betnomi. As I am done working for them since he now tells me that I have nothing to do with him.
Can any admin please confirm this. Thanks.

[gosha@e-coin]

I found the conversation in my account on Bitcointalk. Watch and judge for yourself.

[Hhampuz]

lol

[AB de Royse777]

Interesting.

However, I do not see anything wrong (except your torn up reputation) to invite you (gosha@e-coin) to work for him (Betnomi). It's very risky to believe you but let's just say the PMs are real and in this case I would like to hear the other side of the story from Betnomi please. Or tell us that those screenshots are fake.


Quoting for reference:

Yesterday there was a miscommunication between me and Betnomi, we spoke on Telegram about the text to reply, and then we both posted it, after he said my reply was not decent enough. That is the only truth.

And this is lie @Betnomi

[wildan88]

the only thing we are sure about now that both accounts are not handled by the same party. Only way to get this sort out to start with the beginning.
@betnomi
was the screenshot posted by gosha@e-coin fake or did you really sent that message?

[nutildah]

I found the conversation in my account on Bitcointalk. Watch and judge for yourself.

OK well the main thing is this is from back in April, back before you went truly insane, accusing everybody of working for Sportsbet. You didn't even get suspected of being game-protect until July, three months later, an accusation you defended yourself of on July 25th. So the point being, perhaps you tricked a casino into believing you were a sane person for a little while, which ultimately led to nothing of fruition, and for which you are now punishing them for... That's the best case scenario.

[TwitchySeal]

nice try gosha.

pretty clever, but not clever enough.

[Arcas]

nice try gosha.

pretty clever, but not clever enough.

Even though I think Betnomi has an unclear policy on her site, I don't think he has anything to do with this situation.
It looks more like Gosha is trying to set a trap for Betnomi. Normally that will be out of revenge, otherwise you won't do such a thing. The question then is what happened between the two.

[betnomi]

About this "Game protect guy" I have never had any interaction with him any way. When we first joined the forum, had no idea how the forum operates, who to talk to for advice etc. We needed someone to walk us through everything and of course, manage our account so, we reached out to a few people. I am very positive we never sent any such message to this user as we were contacting only people with some level of trust and reputation. The message itself, i don't believe its fake but him receiving it, surely not real so, there is some kind of editing going on here. I will spend sometime checking everyone i sent a message to in this time frame and we will find out who that message was sent to and that user would have to explain how "Game protect" got that message or maybe his second account. I will look into this. And about him working with us, the most insane thing ever. (We never worked or are working with him).

I will update this as soon as i find anything.




I think i have a candidate for who this person really is. I will not throw accusations until i have a hard proof.

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[AB de Royse777]

Then I will take this conversation on Telegram thing is just a made up story from gosha@e-coin

Yesterday there was a miscommunication between me and Betnomi, we spoke on Telegram about the text to reply, and then we both posted it, after he said my reply was not decent enough. That is the only truth.

Of course with his reputation telling something like this is completely expected. The benefit of the doubt goes with Betnomi.

I think i have a candidate for who this person really is. I will not throw accusations until i have a hard proof.

I just hope that this is not someone who will shock us. Awaiting with great interest!

[betnomi]

Okay, after some looking up, i found where all this is originating. The user "Game protect" was on our ANN thread in the first few days we made that post and as everyone can see, it was a lot of drama going on at the time. We were overwhelmed and was going for any kind of support we could get. Comes in this user, who offered some suggestions and of course, at the time had no negative tags so, we payed him some attention.  After, looking at the dates in the message and the in Our ANN thread, i believe the message he posted (screenshot) is real and not fake. However, we did not have any further communications or association with this user.

This is the link to the topic where he made one comments on our topic.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239211.40











We urge him to provide any form of evidence that he worked with us in any capacity or any communication with had with him or anything he has or better still, the discussion he claimed we had with him just yesterday. We believe what this user is doing is incredibly dangerous and can cause someone or some company a big problem. This is obvious, he is trying to create some kind of chaos or troll us or whatever his motive is. This will end at some point but who knows what or who he is going to do the same or maybe something more reckless to.

[suchmoon]

OK well the main thing is this is from back in April, back before you went truly insane, accusing everybody of working for Sportsbet. You didn't even get suspected of being game-protect until July, three months later, an accusation you defended yourself of on July 25th. So the point being, perhaps you tricked a casino into believing you were a sane person for a little while, which ultimately led to nothing of fruition, and for which you are now punishing them for... That's the best case scenario.

Based on what betnomi posted above this sounds like a plausible explanation. Also psychopathic enough for GP or a GP-wannabe casino extortionist.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I just wish that with GP being banned - his nonsensical 3 red trust on me would go away lol

[dkbit98]

For me this is clear case of gosha@e-coin trying to lie, scam and manipulate all the people in this forum including betnomi.
I expect to see a lot more red paint on his profile as reward and maybe it is time for moderators to finally react in this case.