Plagiarism by gosha@e-coin

[AB de Royse777]

User gosha@e-coin made a post and then edited the same post using the content of the next poster on the same topic to frame the other user (betnomi ).

Thanks to suchmoon and tools from LoyceV.

gosha@e-coin's original post :

Our goal is to process all payouts as quickly and efficiently as possible. people can still use the free 100 usd bonus to test our site. making a withdrawal has no requirements. we will look into each case different and will show that we will not disappoint our customers. and maybe somebody will hit the jackpot on our site as well lol.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352590.html

Next post from user betnomi :

We appreciate the positive outlook on our website. Just kindly asking everyone gives us a few days to get everything together and tie up all loose ends.  Its going to be 🔥 and a lot of fun.

Regarding withdrawals, there is a 24 hour limit of 100,000 Euros. Ie, for every 24 hours, a user can withdrawal up to 100,000 Euros.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352601.html

gosha@e-coin's then edited his post with the following contents:

We appreciate the positive outlook on our website. Just kindly asking everyone gives us a few days to get everything together and tie up all loose ends.  Its going to be 🔥 and a lot of fun.

Regarding withdrawals, there is a 24 hour limit of 100,000 Euros. Ie, for every 24 hours, a user can withdrawal up to 100,000 Euros.

https://ninjastic.space/post/55352590 Thanks TryNinja.

gosha@e-coin's post history does not show it any more, the best bet is that he deleted it.

This is a nasty act of plagiarism and an unsuccessful attempt of framing a user/company. I do not know the punishment for framing unethically to anyone but this is established that plagiarism is bannable. And for this reason I urge to ban gosha@e-coin immediately.

Profile link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=409314

Feel free to leave your thoughts.

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[notblox1]

I am working with the owner of Betnomi together and we run the site.

A few months ago, Betnomi invited me to work for them as official manager for their site here on the forum.

I work for Betnomi, untill today. Betnomi is lying and manipulating people.

It is like thief dressed up like police officer saying 'hey lets catch the thief'...

gosha@e-coin is a liar and nothing he showed from his PM is showing he is co-owner of Betnomi like he suggested in one of his posts.
There is no WE running Betnomi site, but let's wait for betnomi official confirmation.
Anyone can look at gosha@e-coin post history and feedback on his profile to see what kind a person he is.

[yahoo62278]

Gosha is just a pathetic user trying to strong arm yet another casino. Everything he posts is ridiculous lies. I talk with Betnomi owner daily and they have never hired gosha for anything.

Regarding plagiarism, even if they ban him he will make a new account pulling the same crap. Maybe in this case it's better to know who we are dealing with?

[AB de Royse777]

Gosha is just a pathetic user trying to strong arm yet another casino. Everything he posts is ridiculous lies. I talk with Betnomi owner daily and they have never hired gosha for anything.

When I first read the accusation I was shocked. Since these days I am not giving much time in the forum (busy with IPL and other stuffs) I was not aware of everything that is happening in the forum. I still could not get time to check the recent case regarding cloudbet (excluded them from my trust least was another reason).

Anyway, I was kinda shocked and tried to find information immediately because Betnomi are the one who bought a banner on the IPL pool thread. So it was kinda serious for me to check the case. I started reading things even when I was in the middle of other things. Then at some point I realized the case. This is completely low moral from gosha.
 

Regarding plagiarism, even if they ban him he will make a new account pulling the same crap.

Maybe they already have other accounts but at-least we get rid of one like we did with their game-protect account.

Maybe in this case it's better to know who we are dealing with?

In an anonymous community it's not very easy but here we still survive.

[TwitchySeal]

It is like thief dressed up like police officer saying 'hey lets catch the thief'...

Exactly.

[Lordhermes]

I work for Betnomi, untill today. Betnomi is lying and manipulating people.

You are the one lying gosha@e-coin, Betnomi had never manipulated anybody, I am one their signature participants where our first week campaign was paid successfully to all participants that qualified for payment, you are just a chao trying to damage the image of Betnomi gaming company and you were never hired in anyway but yahoo62278.

I talk with Betnomi owner daily and they have never hired gosha for anything.

Thanks for better clarification, you were only hired as campaign manager not gosha.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

He’s a bought account of banned user game-protect, he’s been trolling the forum for years. Nice work Royse, I wonder if we report a recent post of his but with the OP as evidence if it’ll be enough to get him a perma-ban.

Worth a go I guess.

[GeorgeJohn]

I think he seems it as avenue for him to render propaganda to the image of betnomi, its obvious that everyone has noticed what is saying is absolutely Lie's because he was not opportune to  hired or selected for betnomi signature campaign that should be one of the criteria for he to damage the images of betnomi,looking at betnomi their is no atoms of evidence indicating that betnomi manipulate or disregards any participate who come across it.via my one week experience betnomi everything was absolutely arranged, even in payment no one reports negatively about betnomi, were is all source of allegations or accusations coming from.

[betnomi]

Its very strange how this user @gosha@e-coin is allowed to endlessly manipulate people, spread false information, recklessly tag people and consistently spam our topics.

Our respect and regards to @suchmoon and @LoyceV for pulling the archive and getting on top of this else, we can only imagine the nightmare this would have been.

[jademaxsuy]

Bump! @mods (hilariousandco, mprep etc.) and theymos

The post was visible had seen it always but I think the staff of the forum that are capable of making decision to ban users. This is a call for a sanction against the user violating the forum rules and regulations.

Yet this is not urgent matter right? But still with the evidence that OP had been posting clearly a permban sanctions could be given to that user.

However my concern is different. Is there any way that during the time of urgency the forum staff or personnel could be able to act immediately? I think it could be possible by doing PM but we know that this staff are not online always and we do not know their schedule too when they are online to report urgent matter. So, how could the matter be able to reach them eventually?

[Pmalek]

I though about this scenario a long time ago and wanted to write a thread about how easy it is to frame a user you don't like. I am glad I didn't, because it could have created more problems than solutions. Ninja Space wasn't available back then and I am not sure what LoyceV was scrapping in those days.

A question to LoyceV and TryNinja. How soon after a post is written do your scrappers register it? If I write and edit a post in the same minute, do you still catch the original and edited post?

@Royse777 excellent job!

[LoyceV]

A question to LoyceV and TryNinja. How soon after a post is written do your scrappers register it?

I scrape posts within a few seconds. Your post for instance took 3 seconds.

If I write and edit a post in the same minute, do you still catch the original and edited post?

I archive only the unedited version, TryNinja revisits the post after (I think) 5 minutes to check if it was edited.

[AB de Royse777]

I archive only the unedited version, TryNinja revisits the post after (I think) 5 minutes to check if it was edited.

This means he is checking all the posts after certain minutes/hours every day. Isn't it consuming too much resources which is ultimately expensive. Would like some input from TryNinja.

I am convinced with your one that you are just taking a snapshot of the post immediately it's been posted and then you are forgetting about it.

@Royse777 excellent job!

Appreciate it. I hope the @mods (hilariousandco, mprep etc.) and theymos realize the need of banning this bug in the community. Do we not have a hard proof yet that gosha@e-coin == game-protect?

[TryNinja]

This means he is checking all the posts after certain minutes/hours every day. Isn't it consuming too much resources which is ultimately expensive.

Every new post from the "recent posts" page is visited again after 5 minutes.

7022 posts where made yesterday, so 7022 extra requests per day or almost 1 request every 12 seconds.

[AB de Royse777]

Every new post from the "recent posts" page is visited again after 5 minutes.

So for example, a post made and then it was edited after 10 seconds, then 1 minutes, then 4th minutes. In this case after 5 minutes we will see the same message which was at 4th minute change? What I mean is the latest post of 5-n (where n<5 minutes) minutes will be snapped. After the snap whatever happens your system is not snapping any more.

[TryNinja]

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Yes.

1. The post is made at 10:00 AM. Few seconds late, it is scraped and saved.
2. After 5 minutes (10:05 AM), the post is visited again, re-scraped and saved.
3. ~The end~

It doesn't know how many times it was edited (and the content on each time) during/before the first 5 minutes. When visited, the post is scraped as it is on that exact moment.

I'll probably either leave it that way, add more checks (e.g another check after 1 hour or 1 day) or allow people to manually trigger a recheck the post to archive its edits through time.

[AB de Royse777]

User gosha@e-coin
Last Active:    October 14, 2020, 02:42:01 PM
Last post: October 13, 2020, 11:13:08 PM

Is he ban? Hope he is!

[suchmoon]

Is he ban? Hope he is!

Nope.

[AB de Royse777]

Sucks.
May I ask, how do you check it?

[suchmoon]

Sucks.
May I ask, how do you check it?

For permabans: https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
Or: https://bpip.org/Profile?id=409314 if you want to check more than last 7 days shown in the modlog.

This doesn't show tempbans but we aren't interested in those, are we?