the usa is technically not a nation, its a geographic cooperation

[KingScorpio]

americans describe themselves as being a nation, like germany, or france or russia, but they are not a society that is being held together by a single language, but by a geographic boundaries.

nations in america are the englisch speaking, the hispanics, the sioux etc.

[franky1]

in germany they have multiple languages too, sorbian and north fresian for instance

in russia they have 35 main languages accepted in russia and 100 minority languages

in france they have several languages too

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but here is the funny part americans feel patriotic but say they speak english
tom@o vs tom8o shows the difference of pronounciation.. oops i mean pronunciation

[KingScorpio]

in germany they have multiple languages too, sorbian and north fresian for instance

in russia they have 35 main languages accepted in russia and 100 minority languages

in france they have several languages too

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but here is the funny part americans feel patriotic but say they speak english
tom@o vs tom8o shows the difference of pronounciation.. oops i mean pronunciation

jes but it its not dominated, with a people and its more than 2000 year long history.

germany identifies itself with its langauge not with its territory the EU identifies itself with its territory

[BADecker]

Before a State in the USA became a State in the USA, it requested authorization from the USA to be a State. The USA authorized Statehood, and allowed autonomous State rule within the confines of obedience to the US Constitution. The 10th Amendment allows the States to do whatever they want that is not within the scope of the US Constitution.

The only two things that the USA Constitution really has direct control over are borders and coining money. The rest of it comes under agreements the States have made with the Federal Government outside of the main two.

When there are battles between a State and the Federal, the Supreme Court uses the Constitution, along with the agreements between the State and the Federal, to determine who is right. Consider the following.


U.S. Supreme Court Sides With Tribes In Stunning 5-4 Ruling

In a 5-4 vote, the United States Supreme Court on Thursday sided with Oklahoma tribes in McGirt v. Oklahoma, saying much of the eastern half of Oklahoma is still an Indian reservation.

Justice Neil Gorsuch joined Justices Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Sonia Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer to issue the majority opinion.

"Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation for purposes of federal criminal law. Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word."

IS THE EASTERN HALF OF OKLAHOMA A RESERVATION?

The central question in this case: Were the Muscogee (Creek) Nation's boundaries as set by the 1866 Treaty ever dissolved by Congress? Though the federal government largely dismantled Tribal governments in Oklahoma in the late 1800s, if the 1866 and subsequent Treaties are still valid, then a large portion of Eastern Oklahoma is still Indian Country. The State of Oklahoma believes this would fundamentally change law enforcement and could resultin thousands of criminal cases being overturned.

The defendant in this case, Jimcy McGirt, is a citizen of the Seminole Nation. He claims he was prosecuted by the wrong court. Because he is a Tribal citizen and committed his crime in on Creek Tribal land, he says the State of Oklahoma never had jurisdiction to try him.

His guilt isn't in question in this case — he's serving a life sentence for sex crimes he committed against a four year-old child. The argument is that McGirt believes he should have been prosecuted in federal court, not state court, because of where his crime was committed.

In the majority opinion, Gorsuch wrote about how this criminal case is actually a matter of Tribal sovereignty.

[mindrust]

USA is like the European Union.

EU has 28 states: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia..

USA has 50 states: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware...

[Mauser]

americans describe themselves as being a nation, like germany, or france or russia, but they are not a society that is being held together by a single language, but by a geographic boundaries.

nations in america are the englisch speaking, the hispanics, the sioux etc.

Probably many people with disagree with you because USA has a feeling of a nation. I think this is mostly due to wars. If you are a nation and fight a against a common enemy, it will unite the people. First against the British, then WW1 and WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq 1&2, Afghanistan. With so many foreign threats, there should be a lot of unity. Unfortunately all of this is being lost in the last few years.

[franky1]

USA is like the European Union.

EU has 28 states: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia..

USA has 50 states: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware...

yep this is a closer description compared to kingscorpios nonsense
also kingscorpio doesnt realise that 'nation' is not limited to language. it can also be a collective community based on territory, historic common knowledge of a certain community in a certain area/land being there


this is why 'micronations' are hard to become adopted because a cult cant just say they are a micronation in a month without having a unique thing that sets them apart to be truly recognised as separate from neighbouring communities. especially if that micronation is within a landspace already set up and recognised as a nation with its own rules against devolving into micronations.

take catalonia, that didnt happen overnight

[KingScorpio]

USA is like the European Union.

EU has 28 states: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia..

USA has 50 states: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware...

yep this is a closer description compared to kingscorpios nonsense
also kingscorpio doesnt realise that 'nation' is not limited to language. it can also be a collective community based on territory, historic common knowledge of a certain community in a certain area/land being there


this is why 'micronations' are hard to become adopted because a cult cant just say they are a micronation in a month without having a unique thing that sets them apart to be truly recognised as separate from neighbouring communities. especially if that micronation is within a landspace already set up and recognised as a nation with its own rules against devolving into micronations.

take catalonia, that didnt happen overnight

the term nationalism was born in the french revolution, the french nation,

the usa was not a nation the colonies simply rose up lead by a masonic network.

the EU is not a nation its a geographic cooperation, the usa is therefore no nation either, its native american tribes are nations.

[BADecker]

Check the definitions: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nation?s=t and https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cooperation?s=t.

What makes the USA a nation is the agreement of the people to not agree to necessarily be a nation. Yet they all live together in one land.

The cooperation is shown in the fact that they pay taxes.

[KingScorpio]

Check the definitions: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nation?s=t and https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cooperation?s=t.

What makes the USA a nation is the agreement of the people to not agree to necessarily be a nation. Yet they all live together in one land.

The cooperation is shown in the fact that they pay taxes.

englisch langauge is not in meaningful representative its german that is.

englisch dictionaries are about what do people use that word for but they don't consider the core.

in germany is only considered a nation by idiots.

nation is a lingual network of people, it is related to langauge. not territory.

usa is a geographic cooperation not a nation.

[BADecker]

Check the definitions: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nation?s=t and https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cooperation?s=t.

What makes the USA a nation is the agreement of the people to not agree to necessarily be a nation. Yet they all live together in one land.

The cooperation is shown in the fact that they pay taxes.

englisch langauge is not in meaningful representative its german that is.

englisch dictionaries are about what do people use that word for but they don't consider the core.

in germany is only considered a nation by idiots.

nation is a lingual network of people, it is related to langauge. not territory.

usa is a geographic cooperation not a nation.

You're in the wrong section. Try https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=16.0.

[KingScorpio]

Check the definitions: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nation?s=t and https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cooperation?s=t.

What makes the USA a nation is the agreement of the people to not agree to necessarily be a nation. Yet they all live together in one land.

The cooperation is shown in the fact that they pay taxes.

englisch langauge is not in meaningful representative its german that is.

englisch dictionaries are about what do people use that word for but they don't consider the core.

in germany is only considered a nation by idiots.

nation is a lingual network of people, it is related to langauge. not territory.

usa is a geographic cooperation not a nation.

You're in the wrong section. Try https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=16.0.

nation relates to the langauge, not the terrory,  a geographic cooperation can have many nation but a nation cant conatain other nations.

[Viper1]

americans describe themselves as being a nation, like germany, or france or russia, but they are not a society that is being held together by a single language, but by a geographic boundaries.

nations in america are the englisch speaking, the hispanics, the sioux etc.

Is you're entire purpose to spread bullshit information or are you just that misinformed?

Black's Law Dictionary defines a nation as follows:

nation, n.
1. A large group of people having a common origin, language, and tradition and usu. constituting a political entity. • When a nation is coincident with a state, the term nation-state is often used....

2. A community of people inhabiting a defined territory and organized under an independent government; a sovereign political state....

The word "nation" is sometimes used as synonym for:

State (polity) or sovereign state: a government which controls a specific territory, which may or may not be associated with any particular ethnic group

Country: a geographic territory, which may or may not have an affiliation with a government or ethnic group

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation

[KingScorpio]

americans describe themselves as being a nation, like germany, or france or russia, but they are not a society that is being held together by a single language, but by a geographic boundaries.

nations in america are the englisch speaking, the hispanics, the sioux etc.

Is you're entire purpose to spread bullshit information or are you just that misinformed?

Black's Law Dictionary defines a nation as follows:

nation, n.
1. A large group of people having a common origin, language, and tradition and usu. constituting a political entity. • When a nation is coincident with a state, the term nation-state is often used....

2. A community of people inhabiting a defined territory and organized under an independent government; a sovereign political state....

The word "nation" is sometimes used as synonym for:

State (polity) or sovereign state: a government which controls a specific territory, which may or may not be associated with any particular ethnic group

Country: a geographic territory, which may or may not have an affiliation with a government or ethnic group

na thats the wrong usage, for that there is the word "cultural realm", nation can only be used correct for a lingually standardized group like kurds, arabs, turks, not for something like "americans" or "europeans

native american's can't be american's if they consider themselves a different nation.

regards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation

secondly, they cannot be an independent nation if the don't keep their own langauge anyway.

for example you cannot say islam is a nation, islam is a religion and not a nation, the englisch lanauge is trashy compared to german, but not as trashy as compared to french.

[Viper1]

na thats the wrong usage, for that there is the word "cultural realm", nation can only be used correct for a lingually standardized group like kurds, arabs, turks, not for something like "americans" or "europeans

Based on what. Please show me the actual documentation that supports your claim because everything on that page refutes what you have to say on the matter. If you like, you can "win" by just saying it's your opinion.

[KingScorpio]

na thats the wrong usage, for that there is the word "cultural realm", nation can only be used correct for a lingually standardized group like kurds, arabs, turks, not for something like "americans" or "europeans

Based on what. Please show me the actual documentation that supports your claim because everything on that page refutes what you have to say on the matter. If you like, you can "win" by just saying it's your opinion.

based on lingual hygene in the us where nation is used to also describes cultural groups, people just follow the mood of some newspaper writers, they don't preserve the historic correct usage,

they are using for islam the word nation although its a religion that can be shaped by many nationalities.

its time people remember what nation means again,

[Viper1]

na thats the wrong usage, for that there is the word "cultural realm", nation can only be used correct for a lingually standardized group like kurds, arabs, turks, not for something like "americans" or "europeans

Based on what. Please show me the actual documentation that supports your claim because everything on that page refutes what you have to say on the matter. If you like, you can "win" by just saying it's your opinion.

based on lingual hygene in the us where nation is used to also describes cultural groups, people just follow the mood of some newspaper writers, they don't preserve the historic correct usage,

they are using for islam the word nation although its a religion that can be shaped by many nationalities.

its time people remember what nation means again,

I asked you for proof of your claim and all you gave me was what I assume is your opinion. Please provide me proof or just say it's your opinion.

[KingScorpio]

na thats the wrong usage, for that there is the word "cultural realm", nation can only be used correct for a lingually standardized group like kurds, arabs, turks, not for something like "americans" or "europeans

Based on what. Please show me the actual documentation that supports your claim because everything on that page refutes what you have to say on the matter. If you like, you can "win" by just saying it's your opinion.

based on lingual hygene in the us where nation is used to also describes cultural groups, people just follow the mood of some newspaper writers, they don't preserve the historic correct usage,

they are using for islam the word nation although its a religion that can be shaped by many nationalities.

its time people remember what nation means again,

I asked you for proof of your claim and all you gave me was what I assume is your opinion. Please provide me proof or just say it's your opinion.

how can people form a nation that don't understand each other? there has to be a lingual network capable of uniting them.

if the usa is a nation, than native americans can't be nations, they have then to abandon that term to selfdescribe themselves as tribe or whatever.

[Viper1]

na thats the wrong usage, for that there is the word "cultural realm", nation can only be used correct for a lingually standardized group like kurds, arabs, turks, not for something like "americans" or "europeans

Based on what. Please show me the actual documentation that supports your claim because everything on that page refutes what you have to say on the matter. If you like, you can "win" by just saying it's your opinion.

based on lingual hygene in the us where nation is used to also describes cultural groups, people just follow the mood of some newspaper writers, they don't preserve the historic correct usage,

they are using for islam the word nation although its a religion that can be shaped by many nationalities.

its time people remember what nation means again,

I asked you for proof of your claim and all you gave me was what I assume is your opinion. Please provide me proof or just say it's your opinion.

how can people form a nation that don't understand each other? there has to be a lingual network capable of uniting them.

if the usa is a nation, than native americans can't be nations, they have then to abandon that term to selfdescribe themselves as tribe or whatever.

So no proof of your claim, just your opinion. Got it. Well good luck with that.

[KingScorpio]

na thats the wrong usage, for that there is the word "cultural realm", nation can only be used correct for a lingually standardized group like kurds, arabs, turks, not for something like "americans" or "europeans

Based on what. Please show me the actual documentation that supports your claim because everything on that page refutes what you have to say on the matter. If you like, you can "win" by just saying it's your opinion.

based on lingual hygene in the us where nation is used to also describes cultural groups, people just follow the mood of some newspaper writers, they don't preserve the historic correct usage,

they are using for islam the word nation although its a religion that can be shaped by many nationalities.

its time people remember what nation means again,

I asked you for proof of your claim and all you gave me was what I assume is your opinion. Please provide me proof or just say it's your opinion.

how can people form a nation that don't understand each other? there has to be a lingual network capable of uniting them.

if the usa is a nation, than native americans can't be nations, they have then to abandon that term to selfdescribe themselves as tribe or whatever.

So no proof of your claim, just your opinion. Got it. Well good luck with that.

kurds, turks and arabs consider themselves different groups because they speak different langauges, you nation of islam doesn't exist, because islam is a religion not a nation

the same is in the geographic cooperation usa, which has groups hostile to each other, that even call themselves nations,