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Satoshi should have bought bitcoin.com, with a simple redirection to the org.
why?! bitcoin is not some centralized coin or a centralized company to have an owner (aka Satoshi) who is responsible for buying up domain names and protecting them. in fact i say it is a good thing that bitcoin.com is run by a scammer and is scamming people. newcomes learn that in this decentralized world there are always scammers lurking around wanting to empty their pockets while putting on sheeps clothing.
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July 13, 2020, 03:27:09 PM |
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There are always scammers but bitcoin.com seems always legit. And bitcoin.com is not a scam. At least not directly like fake giveaways.
I just don't find the reason of not buying it. bitcoin.com and bitcoin.net redirecting to bitcoin.org, that's all.
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July 13, 2020, 05:11:01 PM |
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This has been going on for a long time ever since BCH CEO, Roger Ver took over the domain. He used the domain for commercial purposes and to lure unsuspecting people that that is the real bitcoin, although thankfully people are smart enough to know the basic difference between BCH and BTC. Then again there are still some people lured into this scheme and are unhappy about their first experience with 'bitcoin' due to the seemingly legitimate domain used by Ver and co.
bitcoin.org is where people should head to if they want to learn more about BTC and not BCH. Bitcoin wiki also exists, and it's really not hard to find those legitimate resources on the web nowadays.
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How can someone buy BCH and think that he is buying BTC is beyond me, considering the huge difference in price. I mean, if you buy BCH thinking that you are actually buying BTC, but discounted for 97% (and not questioning yourself how can that be possible) you will have hard time in crypto. Hell, even on that website they make distinction between those two.
Then again, people are still sending money to BTC doublers, so I guess everything is possible.
They're newbie anyways. The website owners purposedly put the word 'Bitcoin' and 'Cash' together to fool the users. We are not newbies so we are aware of the name difference but a newbie who doesn't have much idea about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, they may be confused and thought that's the real Bitcoin. Especially they're buying it on a website which seems 'legitimate' with the domain bitcoin.com, isn't it easy to be fooled?
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July 14, 2020, 03:36:59 AM |
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Unfortunately also the world of cryptocurrencies is not free from scammers and cunning, the site is a little misunderstanding and tends to trap the newbies who believe they are buying bitcoins but only realize after purchasing bitcoin cash ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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July 14, 2020, 04:52:23 AM |
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This site has been misleading people ever since the shitcoin fork Bitcoin Cash was born. It must have caused a good deal of damage to people who unfortunately fell for this trap. Many people ended up buying a shitfork instead of the real Bitcoin because Ver and the site claim that Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin.
This site is going to shut down though. So thanks for that one scammy site is taken off the online world.
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July 14, 2020, 06:58:34 AM |
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OP, besides what everyone has already said, that site's goal is also to gaslight you from the truth, to make you QUESTION Bitcoin, but TAKE your Bitcoin, and exchange it for a forked-shitcoin. Haha.
And that's another negative bitcoin has. Besides the other fears you have with bitcoin (fake giveaways, scams etc), there are people that will try to steal them by making you investing on them. Indirectly. I really don't blame people that malign bitcoin. Is it money for smart and careful people. It's NOT a "negative that Bitcoin has", Bitcoin is neutral. The honey-badger don't care. It's the people that participate in socio-political attacks, fraud, and lies that's negative.
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There are always scammers but bitcoin.com seems always legit. And bitcoin.com is not a scam. At least not directly like fake giveaways.
I just don't find the reason of not buying it. bitcoin.com and bitcoin.net redirecting to bitcoin.org, that's all.
It's because Satoshi doesn't really need to do that, and I also thought that Satoshi didn't think that his creation will really go this big in just short amount of time. So he never see the future and no way for him to know what is going to happen. It's just in the last 4 years or so, this thought of getting this domain has enter the minds of those people who have been involved early. However, Roger Ver take advantage of the domain name and mislead a lot of bitcoiners.
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July 14, 2020, 03:48:00 PM |
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There are always scammers but bitcoin.com seems always legit. And bitcoin.com is not a scam. At least not directly like fake giveaways.
I just don't find the reason of not buying it. bitcoin.com and bitcoin.net redirecting to bitcoin.org, that's all.
bitcoin.com is exactly a scam by all intents and purposes. for example if you go to an Apple store and pay for an iPhone but they give you a Chinese garbage, that is called being scammed. when you go to bitcoin.com they tell you that you are buying "bitcoin" but they sell you a garbage called bcash. and that is similarly a scam. as for redirecting to bitcoin.org that doesn't solve anything. what happens when bitcoin.org turns bad too? that is the problem with centralization that you can't fix it by more centralization.
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July 14, 2020, 04:00:50 PM |
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just because you saw bitcoin on its name does that mean you will see bitcoin upon visiting that site ? lol no mate . we can use any domain name we want but the content can be different too and yes i heard roger ver the founder of bch is connected to that site so its normal that he will use his own coin as a medium . idc if he hates btc or this site only use bch because at the end of the day we still knew that btc is more succesful than on bch . itl take more years before he can reached what btc already have
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July 14, 2020, 04:59:36 PM |
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I just don't find the reason of not buying it. bitcoin.com and bitcoin.net redirecting to bitcoin.org, that's all.
well you can do it if you wanted to. if you have lots of money you can buy it. anyway, even if somebody got tricked at the beginning (because they don't do enough dd), most of the time they'll learn the rest later. nobody should ever listen to one side of the story.
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July 14, 2020, 05:51:30 PM |
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There are always scammers but bitcoin.com seems always legit. And bitcoin.com is not a scam. At least not directly like fake giveaways.
I just don't find the reason of not buying it. bitcoin.com and bitcoin.net redirecting to bitcoin.org, that's all.
I hope you are right but wondering how bitcoin.com answers these bad claims against them https://www.trustpilot.com/review/bitcoin.com. If they seem to be legit, maybe we could say that a lot of people use it and having a good experience but something different out there and then you claim it was legit and can be trusted? They are not scamming but is not the main issue there, it is how this site runs through. What is the reason why using BCH as default currency instead of BTC? Its something to trick traders especially for noobs.
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July 14, 2020, 06:52:50 PM |
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There are always scammers but bitcoin.com seems always legit. And bitcoin.com is not a scam. At least not directly like fake giveaways.
I just don't find the reason of not buying it. bitcoin.com and bitcoin.net redirecting to bitcoin.org, that's all.
You're wrong, it is a scam just a little different from the ones you're used to. Roger ver used to sell Bitcoin Cash as Bitcoin on his site and called the real Bitcoin "bitcoin core". If that's not a scam, what is? A newbie would go to Bitcoin.com and see a big button "buy Bitcoin" and get a forked shitcoin BCH instead. He was criticized for it and changed it so that now when you go to his site you see bitcoin cash and bitcoin core which is still shady but less than it was in 2018.
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July 14, 2020, 06:59:51 PM |
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Roger Ver is a known anti-bitcoin advocate since long ago. His gripe with the bitcoin community was that most people didn't support the solutions for scaling that he also supported. He has since been pumping his money to promote a forked bitcoin, that he tries to promote as the real bitcoin. Partners of Roger Ver have also promoted BCash through their businesses. For example, known scammer Erik Voorhees turned his business, satoshi-dice, into a BCash-only gambling platform. He and Ver have worked together on many ventures like for example the failed KryptoKit wallet.
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July 14, 2020, 10:01:38 PM |
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Many newbies think that they buy Bitcoin for cheap and when they send bcash to a Bitcoin address come here asking what has happened.
Even worse, some of them use custodial wallet and the owner/company don't bother help those newbies ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) Too risky to use this to buy bitcoin for a newbie where the developer is pro BCH. Errors will come and many will lose money, newbies need a guide to prevent this. The developer of this site is the same developer with BCH, of course they have to support their own, but using bitcoin as the main headline is misleading.
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July 14, 2020, 11:27:13 PM |
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I don't know what your idea is about any currency hash Rate. The higher a currency hash Rate lower the risk of losing it. So the hash Rate growth of Bitcoin is good news for us from one side. The higher the hash rate of currency, the more likely it is to be protected. hash rate not always the same. It is low and increases so I do not see any reason to be disappointed.
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This issue had been known of most people here on this forum or even on the entire crypto community on how shitty Roger Ver is. He owns that site and also the founder of Bcash.shitcoin so its nor surprise that they would set it out as a default one and all the words you do read up into that site is only focused on their coin and just literally deceiving newbie to believe that Bcash is the real Bitcoin which is totally bullshit.
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Satoshi should have bought bitcoin.com, with a simple redirection to the org.
why?! bitcoin is not some centralized coin or a centralized company to have an owner (aka Satoshi) who is responsible for buying up domain names and protecting them. in fact i say it is a good thing that bitcoin.com is run by a scammer and is scamming people. newcomes learn that in this decentralized world there are always scammers lurking around wanting to empty their pockets while putting on sheeps clothing. Unfortunately, newbies or noncrypto users thought that this site is really decent as a source of crypto knowledge. The reason why there are many individuals who are being screwed by this bitcoin cash, not knowing the real difference between BTC and BCH. This is also one of the reasons why many people are getting dismayed because once they were screwed, they thought it is because of bitcoin. Newbies need to expand their crypto knowledge before even sending money to their app. Recently, bad reviews again received by the app. I think in some way, they are screwing people with how they set-up their app. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5ROm4GE.png&t=665&c=uleBeBA3W0X3aQ)
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Be careful about the site and I don't want to mention it. Because do not want to promote a site that makes a lot the newbie gets lost. That's right the owner of the site is named Roger Ver and creator of Bitcoin Cash, Roger Ver is world famous crypto as anti-bitcoin. And trying to convince Bitcoin holders in various ways to sell Bitcoin and buy Bitcoin Cash. He often pumps Bitcoin Cash with his money to create hype and promote Bitcoin Cash. My advice avoid it for buy Bitcoin Cash so we don't belong to Roger Ver.
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Yogee
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July 15, 2020, 04:01:50 AM |
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What's the point of a bitcoin fork anyway? I had heard that it's centralized too.
Forks happen for two main reasons: 1. Upgrades in the network 2. Developers are no longer in consensus with the direction of the project and they split through a hardfork. In case of Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash, Roger Ver and supporters proposed for bigger blocks to increase Bitcoin's scalability while Blockstream and the rest went for Segwit and second layer solution Lightning Network. Obviously, Ver and his supporters weren't happy about it and so the hardfork. Another insignificant reason is some developers just want to make money using another coin's popularity like bitcoin. They will try to sell their coin with overused "faster, better, cheaper" features but a lot of them still holds on the bitcoin name.
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