Am I a shitposter? - asking for an honest opinion

[FatFork]

Since a senior member recently accused me that most of my posts are meaningless replies or generic posts, I would like to hear the opinion from other members of this community as well.

I admit I am not a man of many words and English is not my primary language, but each of my posts is written thoughtfully and I try my best to contribute to this forum. I actively participate in exposing scammers and fighting spam and plagiarism on the forum (I've reported 193 posts so far with 99% accuracy), so such accusations hurt me even more.

All of my received merits are, imho, well deserved and most of them are from respectable DT members like OgNasty, LoyceV, xandry, nutildah, marlboroza, Coolcryptovator, NeuroticFish, dkbit98, DdmrDdmr, Daniel91, examplens, stompix, Rikafip, and many others.

But it’s hard to be your own judge so I created this topic for discussion. Please take a look at my recent posting history and give your honest opinion. Am I a good member of this community or just another shitposter from the crowd?

[LoyceV]

Looking (quickly) at your post history, I've definitely seen worse. You look like a real user to me, so keep going

You have 6 deleted posts according to BPIP.
Looking at my archives of modlog, those posts were in these topics:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1205488.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249880.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235145.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258543.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5253871.0

And an entire topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213903.0

Checking my deleted posts archive, I get 9 hits on those topics (maybe BPIP missed a few, maybe you deleted some of those posts yourself. I didn't manually check all details in modlog):
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5440/54407661.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5449/54493537.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5448/54488268.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5448/54489831.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5410/54106773.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5410/54106375.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5469/54699014.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5457/54576096.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5348/53487471.html
I can't read several of those posts. The last link was your topic, that linkdump was clearly insubstantial. But if you learn from having it deleted, you'll be fine.

I've been accussed of being a signature spammer on several occasions. Anyone can have their opinion
I've had posts deleted too. Some deserved, some because I forgot an old bump (which is still deserved).

Update: since it became clear this is about being accepted in a signature campaign: my statement above doesn't mean I would accept you in a campaign. There's a long way to go from "not a spammer so I can Merit you" to "wanting to encourage you financially to continue what you're doing".

[Timelord2067]

Would have been good if this thread had been a poll.  Just be yourself, but don't take everything said to you to heart.  If you take on board any *constructive* criticisms, then your posts will improve.  The more you engage with others, the more "feel" for the expectations this place has.  (Just don't take everything to heart).

[FatFork]

Looking at your post history, I've definitely seen worse. You look like a real user to me, so keep going

That's right, I'm 'a real living boy'!
 

I can't read several of those posts. The last link was your topic, that linkdump was clearly insubstantial. But if you learn from having it deleted, you'll be fine.

I made that post two days after my registration on the forum, so yes, maybe at the time I wasn’t fully aware of all the rules on the forum. Most of the other deleted posts were in the local, Croatian section and since we don't have a local moderator I think the global moderator was a bit too strict with the 'off-topic' rule. For some other posts, like the one about forking Electrum wallet I honestly don’t know why they were deleted.

I've been accussed of being a signature spammer on several occasions. Anyone can have their opinion
I've had posts deleted too. Some deserved, some because I forgot an old bump (which is still deserved).

Thank you very much for your opinion. I appreciate it.

[ChuckBuck]

I have just checked your post history, you look like a real user, it's fine. However, I also find that you often have posts in archives section and off-topic sections. LoyceV's judgment may be true, but I also think that it may come from another reason, you may have posts that fall under "bad" topics. And those topics may be deleted because it's not good, or the topic will be moved to another section and the owner of that thread has deleted it. Anyway, just ignore it, you are still doing well, and avoid posting on bad topics (topics that are often moved outside of the topic). Go ahead, guy!

[Trofo]

Since a senior member recently accused me that most of my posts are meaningless replies or generic posts, I would like to hear the opinion from other members of this community as well.

I wouldn't accuse you that most of your posts are meaningless replies or generic posts. Granted, I didn't browse trough much of your posting history but that parts that I have seen are mainly replies on some shitcoin topics where you call them out or write something sarcastic. They aren't greatest works but they don't need to be to call out a scam. I would even argue that most of those scams don't even deserve the words you did write.

I don't follow much the work of exposing scammers on this forum but I am greatfull that we have members who take their time and try to keep forum a better place.

All of my received merits are, imho, well deserved and most of them are from respectable DT members like OgNasty, LoyceV, xandry, nutildah, marlboroza, Coolcryptovator, NeuroticFish, dkbit98, DdmrDdmr, Daniel91, examplens, stompix, Rikafip, and many others.

But it’s hard to be your own judge so I created this topic for discussion. Please take a look at my recent posting history and give your honest opinion. Am I a good member of this community or just another shitposter from the crowd?

All your merits are rightfully earned in my opinion and I would definitely not call you a shitposter. Yes you could improve your posting quality but that goes for all of us. This is after all an internet forum and not a book writing contest and I often value more a short, concise post with one sentence in it than 10 sentences long post that doesn't bring anything new to the conversation.

My advice is to keeping doing what makes you happy and ignore malicious comments.

[Rikafip]

I don't see you as just another shitposter that is spamming nonsense in order to fill the signature campaign post quota. Beside communicating in our local board, you helped me few times in busting scammers, so yeah, I would really like to hear why that member called you shitposter. It is true that you generally  don't write big 5000 characters long posts, but sometimes less is more.

Then again, as @LoyceV said, others were accused of same thing due being part of signature campaign (I've been called that as well, just because I stated opinion that another member didn't like) so you shouldn't take that too seriously.

[dkbit98]

After checking your post history I can not say that you are shitposter.
Can you write better posts?
Sure you can, everyone can write better posts it including me, but I don't see you are often posting short oneliner posts or nonsense crap,
and you are also trying to contribute with exposing some plagiarism cases on forum.

For writing better posts we need to have good topics and someone to talk with.
Just my two satoshies BTCBTC

[Daniel91]

FatFork,  you are still young member and it's normal that you have to pass through some learning process before you become senior member with more experience.
I remember that I gave you merits for some of your posts and all this merits was deserved in my opinion.
You are doing very good work in exposing scammers and I appreciate it.
Some of your posts are maybe just short answers but I will not call it meaningless.
I also appreciate your contribution in local Croatian forum.

[examplens]

@FatFork why you did not post initial accusation from this senior member and his explanation about his attitude?

I give you merit because I find something useful in your post. I rarely check post history before meriting any post, for the reason that I think that one post is very useful. It can be the first and only one post from someone. I must agree with other members and his statement about your post history. most often make sense and they are on topic. Probably you can improve quality (like all of us), but you are still a "young" member here, and I guess things can be only better in the future.
You are in Bitvest signature campaign, which is a campaign with lowerest payments rate on the forum. Low payment rate, it certainly brings a slightly poorer quality of posts and a lot of spam comes from there.

[suchmoon]

a senior member recently accused me that most of my posts are meaningless replies or generic posts

Was it me? That definitely sounds like something I'd say LOL. And some cynical old fart like me could also say that you created this thread to fish for merit

But it doesn't really matter that much what some random "senior member" says or thinks. Lots of people and opinions here and you know the saying about opinions. As long as you actually contribute to the forum what you want to contribute, and are not hopelessly illiterate - it will all work out. Trouble starts when people try to pretend to be someone they aren't (e.g. comment on topics they have no idea about), try to fill some quotas and treat posting here as a "job", try to ignore or fight moderators telling them to get their shit together, etc. It doesn't look like you fall into any of these categories even if some cranky "senior member" said otherwise.

[The Cryptovator]

Why is this matter of concern if someone call you spammer or obvious spammer? Even still now sometimes few user call me spammer. So what? Should I stop my contributions due their criticize. I don't think so, I don't care if someone call me spammer. I just simply ask them to report my post if they strongly believe my posts are consider as spam. For that reason, reputation thread isn't appropriate unless someone called you scammer.

By the way, noticed from your post history that you are really not an obvious spammer at all. You should build your skin more thicker if you really want to see yourself as a established member of this forum.

[Timelord2067]

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The OP has earned (so far) 10% of all their merits off of the back of this thread, so they can't be that bad a poster to be able to scrape in the merits.

[FatFork]

Was it me? That definitely sounds like something I'd say LOL. And some cynical old fart like me could also say that you created this thread to fish for merit

LOL! No, it wasn't you. And no, this isn't fishing for merits. Trust me, I had a hard time forcing myself to open a topic like this.  

But it doesn't really matter that much what some random "senior member" says or thinks. Lots of people and opinions here and you know the saying about opinions. As long as you actually contribute to the forum what you want to contribute, and are not hopelessly illiterate - it will all work out. Trouble starts when people try to pretend to be someone they aren't (e.g. comment on topics they have no idea about), try to fill some quotas and treat posting here as a "job", try to ignore or fight moderators telling them to get their shit together, etc. It doesn't look like you fall into any of these categories even if some cranky "senior member" said otherwise.

Okay, so you just happened to guess exactly my sentiment. I don't want to engage in discussions on topics I have no idea about or write nonsense just to fill some quotas. I tend to leave comments only where they can contribute to the discussion with a new and original opinion.

@FatFork why you did not post initial accusation from this senior member and his explanation about his attitude?
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You are in Bitvest signature campaign, which is a campaign with lowerest payments rate on the forum. Low payment rate, it certainly brings a slightly poorer quality of posts and a lot of spam comes from there.

The thing is, our campaign manager, Brainboss, thinks my posts don't meet 'quality standards' and has demoted me to a lower rank in the bitvest campaign. I took a brief look at the posts of some other members from the list of participants and was disappointed to see that certain members are rewarded every week and I am punished and compared to spammers and shitposters. Brainboss knows who I'm talking about and it's easy to find them on the spreadsheet.

Don't get me wrong now, I have nothing against these members and I don't want to tell anyone how to do their job but yes, I find spamming a big issue on this forum. If that's the condition, to produce 50-60 pointless posts a week like on an assembly line, then I never want to reach that 'quality standard' and I don't want to have anything to do with the Bitvest campaign anymore. I opened this topic as requested by Brainboss and I would really like to hear his opinion as well.

[sujonali1819]

I don't know actually said to you that you are shitposter. You should ask them why they said you like that. Then you can get the correct answer by them. Also, you can know what you need to change/remove during posting.

BTW don't care for other's criticism when you feel you are right. But you should take it in a flexible way and understand your mistake if really have any.

[The Cryptovator]

The thing is, our campaign manager, Brainboss, thinks my posts don't meet 'quality standards' and has demoted me to a lower rank in the bitvest campaign.

If this is your concern then we can't do anything. Because every campaign managers have their own standard to prevent spam. Really we don't know which standard has been following by your manager. Also you are not the one who will determine or evaluate other participants post quality. You may friendly ask your manager to point out your mistake, so you will be able to correct yourself although manager isn't obliged and he have right to remove anyone from the campaign for any reason.

For more simple solution you have right to ignore any manager if you don't like their standard. So if you think manager doing something wrong you are free to leave. If you think manager abusing campaign somehow then you may ask owner via PM with some clue or perhaps you may create direct post here instead of indirect post.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I opened this topic as requested by Brainboss and I would really like to hear his opinion as well.

That's correct and I gave every user I punish a go ahead to create a thread if he feels I made the wrong call as highlighted in this reply of mine; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088858.msg54684735#msg54684735.

The user in question isn't been labeled a shit poster entirely by me but he didn't make enough post to my standard to make the cut of recieving reward for last week payment that started on 05/07 12:00PM and ended on 12/07 11:59AM.

Fatfork made around 25 post for the week but most of them were just one line comments and (some in section post count aren't welcomed) which is something I don't welcome, I might overlook it sometime but when you're on my radar (gotten a previous warning for been inactive, I apply extra attention to make sure that I don't give a second chance to users who're barely making enough quality post to retain their slots in the campaign.

Do understand that before last two weeks I have been counting and rewarding your post weekly but without much research looking at your posting record for the last two week I haven't been impressed. We all learn daily so don't take my decision wrongly but consider it to be a constructive criticism for you to work on yourself.

Don't go pointing fingers as that doesn't make it any easier for you. Work on yourself and you'll be rewarded weekly, your participation in the campaign is highly appreciate and welcomed.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I took a quick glance at the first page of your posting history and it doesn't seem to me that you're writing just to get paid.  Shitposts generally have a smell you can recognize from a mile away.  They're not directed at any particular member; they show evidence of the poster not having read anything in the thread; and whatever is being expressed is just vague generalized statements that you've probably read hundreds of times before.

The thing is, our campaign manager, Brainboss, thinks my posts don't meet 'quality standards' and has demoted me to a lower rank in the bitvest campaign.

If this is your concern then we can't do anything. Because every campaign managers have their own standard to prevent spam.

That sucks, but unless BB sees this thread and perhaps changes his mind there's not much the community can do to influence his decision.  You're not a bad writer by any means, and I'd say you could probably increase your post quality simply by taking more time when you're writing.

Good luck, bro.

[suchmoon]

The thing is, our campaign manager, Brainboss, thinks my posts don't meet 'quality standards' and has demoted me to a lower rank in the bitvest campaign. I took a brief look at the posts of some other members from the list of participants and was disappointed to see that certain members are rewarded every week and I am punished and compared to spammers and shitposters.

Well, that's a bit different. Campaigns have certain rules that may or may not be aligned with your posting style. And if I understand this correctly, it's not that all or many of your posts were bad but CB considered some of them not up the standard and that was enough for you to not meet the minimum quota and to drop you to a lower level. At any rate, I wouldn't consider not meeting campaign quota as a "shitposter" indictment... it would be worse the other way round - if you started making wordy posts and/or more of them just to get paid.

[FatFork]

That's correct and I gave every user I punish a go ahead to create a thread if he feels I made the wrong call as highlighted in this reply of mine; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088858.msg54684735#msg54684735.

The user in question isn't been labeled a shit poster entirely by me but he didn't make enough post to my standard to make the cut of recieving reward for last week payment that started on 05/07 12:00PM and ended on 12/07 11:59AM.

First of all, I appreciate your taking the time to reply to this topic.

Fatfork made around 25 post for the week but most of them were just one line comments and (some in section post count aren't welcomed) which is something I don't welcome, I might overlook it sometime but when you're on my radar (gotten a previous warning for been inactive, I apply extra attention to make sure that I don't give a second chance to users who're barely making enough quality post to retain their slots in the campaign.

This is somewhat true and I agree that some of my posts were just one-line comments (although I disagree with the statement 'most of them'). This is a forum where people have open discussions, not a bloging platform and, after all, the quality of a discussion should not be measured by the number of words written. I believe all of my posts were on topic and in the context of a discussion and not just random blather to meet some quotas. Any post that does not comply with the campaign requirements or is against the forum rules should be denied. I understand that, but which sections are not welcome and why is this not stated in the campaign terms?

Do understand that before last two weeks I have been counting and rewarding your post weekly but without much research looking at your posting record for the last two week I haven't been impressed. We all learn daily so don't take my decision wrongly but consider it to be a constructive criticism for you to work on yourself.

I totally accept constructive criticism and I don’t mind being on your radar, moreover, I support it. This is also one of the reasons why I started this thread. I want the opinion of other members as well so that I can improve my appearance and thrive in this community. What bothered me the most was the fact that, according to your response to PM, you ranked me as a spammer and punished me as if I were the worst shit poster on the forum.

Don't go pointing fingers as that doesn't make it any easier for you.  

This I don't understand. Shouldn't all forum members react if they spot spammers and shit posters whose only goal is to make money from sig. campaigns and don't contribute anything to the quality of the discussions? You too, like all other campaign managers, have a great responsibility towards the entire bitcointalk community because, as far as I can see, signature campaigns are the biggest source of spam on this forum. Why does the merit system have no impact in campaigns?

Do you really enjoy reading posts like this:

Airdrops are now more scammed so it's very difficult to earn cryptocurrency from them Free cryptocurrencies are available from freebitco.combut it'll depend upon luck That's why I feel we will get cryptocurrency through bounty or blog.

or this:

Many people believe in this magic but I think it is a myth that it is only for the entertainment of the people Reality is everything that exists From the very beginning of civilization people have a keen interest in magic and sorcery. Magic is basically the science of subduing the supernatural and natural forces But nowadays most people do not believe in this magic and everyone sees it as a means of entertainment.

Both of these members are on the 'Tier A' list of the BitVest campaign and are appropriately rewarded for each of their 'quality' posts.

Work on yourself and you'll be rewarded weekly, your participation in the campaign is highly appreciate and welcomed.

I will definitely do that. Especially now that I have received support from other members as well. I must be doing something right here, after all.