🔥🔥🔥 gumusi: How Nepotist Corruption Ruined Bitcointalk 🔥🔥🔥

[JollyGood]

User gumusi has deleted my posts in his censored (self-moderated) thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260669.0

Below are the posts he deleted, I wonder why he is so scared of me that he had to delete my posts but anyway I wanted to open a thread for anybody to post here with any posts that gumusi might have deleted.

I agree with marlboroza it seems "This gumusi account is starting to sound like drama queen Vispilio AKA DragonDance. Makes me wonder": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg54782149#msg54782149

Thank you for your feedback DireWolfM14.

For the sake of clarity, I modified the negative trust to make it more relevant and decided to keep it red until or unless I see behaviour from the OP that makes me revise it to neutral. I hope this settles the issue.

The OP has followed in the footpath of some his close buddies from his local language board by attention-seeking, surely it is time for this thread to be locked.

Why is JollyGood's behavior the responsibility of these two members?  How about you discuss your disagreement with JollyGood, and stop trolling members who have nothing to do with it.  I have an idea, instead of trying to spread blame for your red-tag, you should take responsibility and accountability for your own actions...  Novel idea, I know.

Not only are neither LoyceV nor suchmoon responsible for JollyGood's position on DT1, one of them is voting against him, and has been for weeks.

Trust list for: suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (37) 4154 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-05-23_Sat_05.03h)

suchmoon Distrusts these users' judgement:
124. NEW ~JollyGood (Trust: +10 / =0 / -2) (DT1! (6) 627 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.

These are posts #2 and #3 from what I can see...

1) You're evading a ban.
2) I'm not an employee of Bitcointalk.
3) JollyGood is not my hitman. I don't suppose you got any proof of that or anything else in your post?

4) We are not friends
5) I don't live here.
6) Who are you? And why are you suddenly so concerned with me, right after JollyGood gave you negative feedback?
7) I don't have access to forum resources.
I have only excluded a few users, and I use that very carefully.

Why would a merit abuser and fake trust circle participant such as Vispilio who floats in and out of DT and is now Merit Source even be complimenting the nonsense in this thread by calling it an "excellent thread"?

Excellent thread by @gumusi.

[LoyceV]

I made this: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5260669.html

It is quite unethical to create a topic about someone without allowing him to respond:

how a tremendously flawed member with no perceivable qualifications like ~jollygood (aka their obedient hitman) ended up deeply entrenched on DT1 ?

~jollygood is not welcome on this thread,

[JollyGood]

It is highly unethical to start a self-moderated thread about a user making all sorts of allegations against him, then delete all the posts that user has made. How ridiculous is that?

gumusi decided to delete all my posts and make it clear he will continue to delete them so I had no option but to counter by creating this thread but it is not censored self-moderated one like he did.

I made this: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5260669.html

It is quite unethical to create a topic about someone without allowing him to respond:

how a tremendously flawed member with no perceivable qualifications like ~jollygood (aka their obedient hitman) ended up deeply entrenched on DT1 ?

~jollygood is not welcome on this thread,

[gumusi]

As soon as you remove the negative from me and other friends, I close that title. me and your other negative friends didn't do you any harm. We did not harm the forum. You came out, you gave it negative. Everyone takes care of their own business. remove the negatives to cover the subject

[JollyGood]

Can you list your friends? I do not know who you are alluding to.

As soon as you remove the negative from me and other friends, I close that title. me and your other negative friends didn't do you any harm. We did not harm the forum. You came out, you gave it negative. Everyone takes care of their own business. remove the negatives to cover the subject

[gumusi]

Can you list your friends? I do not know who you are alluding to.

As soon as you remove the negative from me and other friends, I close that title. me and your other negative friends didn't do you any harm. We did not harm the forum. You came out, you gave it negative. Everyone takes care of their own business. remove the negatives to cover the subject

Me and other people from the Turkish section. We did not have any harmful activities in our forum. We hang out in our own department. we have no business neither with you nor with others. Everybody take care of their own business.

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[dragonvslinux]

Can you list your friends? I do not know who you are alluding to.

As soon as you remove the negative from me and other friends, I close that title. me and your other negative friends didn't do you any harm. We did not harm the forum. You came out, you gave it negative. Everyone takes care of their own business. remove the negatives to cover the subject

Me and other people from the Turkish section. We did not have any harmful activities in our forum. We hang out in our own department. we have no business neither with you nor with others. Everybody take care of their own business.

me
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I think he's referring to following:

I referenced this issue in the other topic:

What about the others though that I referenced above as well as PM'd you about?



Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1016855

References:
1. https://web.archive.org/web/20200529232531/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225711.msg53851746#msg53851746
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252627.0
3. https://web.archive.org/save/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225711.msg53865312#msg53865312
4. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252627.0

In references 1&3, there are no references to "merit abuse and fake trust circle" in the referenced posts that endorses Vispilio's campaign services.
In references 2&4, there are no mention of promoting Vispilio in the referenced post. What does Vispilio have to do with these users?

Ultimately it's up to you how you leave your feedback, but referencing your allegations is always a good start, as it's strengthens your feedback.
Surely there isn't the need for another 4 topics to clear this up. You're 33% there now, you're doing great.

[JollyGood]

Why is it when marlboroza makes a valid claim against you for being a DT cheat then tags you, you say nothing?

But when I back up the same claim as marlboroza and also tag you, then it makes you and your gang react to my tagging but not his?: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg53348632#msg53348632

Can you explain why?

Also, you are an ignorant spoilt little brat that was deleting my posts from the censored self-moderated thread you started about me but you chose to delete my right of reply, having that said that I am not petty minded like you and decided to allow you to post here by keeping this thread open.

Can you list your friends? I do not know who you are alluding to.

As soon as you remove the negative from me and other friends, I close that title. me and your other negative friends didn't do you any harm. We did not harm the forum. You came out, you gave it negative. Everyone takes care of their own business. remove the negatives to cover the subject

Me and other people from the Turkish section. We did not have any harmful activities in our forum. We hang out in our own department. we have no business neither with you nor with others. Everybody take care of their own business.

me
trendcoin
BitcoinTurk
koincik
muslo67
vycl87

[Timelord2067]

gumusi appears in these two [Link1] [Link2] posts of mine this week concerning potential DT trust abuse / potential merit abuse.

Concerning threads started about someone and then the OP deleting posts made by the subject of the thread, both Lauda and marboroza have done just that to my posts in their moderated threads concerning myself, hence I no longer post in self moderated threads as a rule ( LoyceV's self moderated threads are a rare exception ) and have no interest in participating in threads started about me.

If gumusi is indeed an alt of otto_diesel, then they also have another alt in the form of The Rose Rain u=1197467 who is banned.

Accounts connected otto_diesel u=951020 and The Rose Rain u=1197467 - scam activities identified by marlboroza using wallet address 3P8iuJmAM2DQAwtu1qvSEzmMZ7Htv5oye6p which otto_diesel then removed from their post https://archive.ph/ag6VY#selection-2793.14-2793.49 and https://archive.ph/OFfF3#selection-5379.15-5379.50

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03 February 2017, 04:07:28 Date Registered: 	otto_diesel

04 October 2017, 07:40:44 Date Registered: 	gumusi
08 October 2017, 21:29:43 Date Registered: 	The Rose Rain

27 April 2019, 10:01:57 Last Active: 		The Rose Rain

11 February 2020, 00:31:53 Last Active: 	otto_diesel

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~gumusi

Rinse, repeat.

[gumusi]

gumusi appears in these two [Link1] [Link2] posts of mine this week concerning potential DT trust abuse / potential merit abuse.

Concerning threads started about someone and then the OP deleting posts made by the subject of the thread, both Lauda and marboroza have done just that to my posts in their moderated threads concerning myself, hence I no longer post in self moderated threads as a rule ( LoyceV's self moderated threads are a rare exception ) and have no interest in participating in threads started about me.

If gumusi is indeed an alt of otto_diesel, then they also have another alt in the form of The Rose Rain u=1197467 who is banned.

Accounts connected otto_diesel u=951020 and The Rose Rain u=1197467 - scam activities identified by marlboroza using wallet address 3P8iuJmAM2DQAwtu1qvSEzmMZ7Htv5oye6p which otto_diesel then removed from their post https://archive.ph/ag6VY#selection-2793.14-2793.49 and https://archive.ph/OFfF3#selection-5379.15-5379.50

Code:

03 February 2017, 04:07:28 Date Registered: 	otto_diesel

04 October 2017, 07:40:44 Date Registered: 	gumusi
08 October 2017, 21:29:43 Date Registered: 	The Rose Rain

27 April 2019, 10:01:57 Last Active: 		The Rose Rain

11 February 2020, 00:31:53 Last Active: 	otto_diesel

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~gumusi

Rinse, repeat.

I have nothing to do with Otto. I said 100 times, but I need the brain to understand. Use the vertex of your forum. Meanwhile, Vod gave me negatives. Let all your gang members come together and give them one negative each. Otherwise my heart will break at you. ne roserain from me. If the ban is seven, it is seven, I have no relation with them. you accuse me of being otto diesel. I AM NOT OTTO DIESEL.

[gumusi]

Why is it when marlboroza makes a valid claim against you for being a DT cheat then tags you, you say nothing?

But when I back up the same claim as marlboroza and also tag you, then it makes you and your gang react to my tagging but not his?: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg53348632#msg53348632

Can you explain why?

Also, you are an ignorant spoilt little brat that was deleting my posts from the censored self-moderated thread you started about me but you chose to delete my right of reply, having that said that I am not petty minded like you and decided to allow you to post here by keeping this thread open.

Can you list your friends? I do not know who you are alluding to.

As soon as you remove the negative from me and other friends, I close that title. me and your other negative friends didn't do you any harm. We did not harm the forum. You came out, you gave it negative. Everyone takes care of their own business. remove the negatives to cover the subject

Me and other people from the Turkish section. We did not have any harmful activities in our forum. We hang out in our own department. we have no business neither with you nor with others. Everybody take care of their own business.

me
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BitcoinTurk
koincik
muslo67
vycl87

Bro, I am not Otto diesel. Only merit and same telegram name. Other proof? Nothing ...
Because i am not otto

[Timelord2067]

Bro, I am not Otto diesel. Only merit and same telegram name. Other proof? Nothing ...
Because i am not otto

You have the same telegram name as otto_diesel - is that allowed?


Why did you trust otto_diesel then fifteen weeks later remove your trust of otto_diesel in the default trust?

[gumusi]

Bro, I am not Otto diesel. Only merit and same telegram name. Other proof? Nothing ...
Because i am not otto

You have the same telegram name as otto_diesel - is that allowed?


Why did you trust otto_diesel then fifteen weeks later remove your trust of otto_diesel in the default trust?

Is there a limit on who to add or remove, or is there any time? For example, I recently removed gospodin. Another time will you come with a charge?
You have no strong evidence. Just a few pieces of evidence, but I swear on everything that I have nothing to do with otto. Let this be my last post. At this age I can't spare time to deal with the gang like you. THeymos is not related to the forum anyway. maybe he may be from you. you are running the forum as you wish. The forum was like your office. Even the mentality that banishes the satoshi does not do to people like us. stay alive. The forum is yours. Hang out amongst you until you die.

[marlboroza]

Why is it when marlboroza makes a valid claim against you for being a DT cheat then tags you, you say nothing?

But when I back up the same claim as marlboroza and also tag you, then it makes you and your gang react to my tagging but not his?

Likely because it is neutral feedback, they were very silent about it hopping no one will notice.

Concerning threads started about someone and then the OP deleting posts made by the subject of the thread, both Lauda and marboroza have done just that to my posts in their moderated threads concerning myself, hence I no longer post in self moderated threads as a rule ( LoyceV's self moderated threads are a rare exception ) and have no interest in participating in threads started about me.

IIRC you start trolling in my topic, when you learn to behave I won't remove your posts.

@gumusi, you probably missed my question few times so I will ask the same question here:

can you please point me to post(s) where you said it?

[JollyGood]

THE FOLLOWING POST FROM THE CENSORED THREAD WHICH I AM NOT ALLOWED TO POST IN BECAUSE THE OP OF THAT THREAD (gumusi) DOES NOT WANT ME TO POST IN THAT THREAD EVEN THOUGH THAT THREAD IS ABOUT ME:

~jollygood is not welcome on this thread,

neg rating spamming trolls like ~jollygood and ~lauda would be expelled from any sane and respectable community.

Since admin, along with the legendary founding members seem to have long ago stopped caring about this forum, the onus falls on the independent crypto community to ignore and distrust provably bad actors if they want to save and reverse bitcointalk from its steady decline...

Still, I created this thread with a view to allow gumusi to post here if he wants to.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Why is it when marlboroza makes a valid claim against you for being a DT cheat then tags you, you say nothing?

I believe that's because marboroza scares him very much. Actually, marlboroza scares me as well, although I never had any beef with him (and I pray to God to never have any)

Regarding gumusi's behavior, this is the classic baboon behavior, I thought you knew it. The same happens in topics opened by otomans like wolwoo, Vispilio, Cean, Blacknavy, DragonDance and others. They don't debate...they just hit and run. The same applies for some of their allies, such as peloso or hacker.

[JollyGood]

Of all the names in the world he could have come up with for his Telegram he chose the same name as forum member "otto_diesel" and still claims to be someone other than him?

This situation gets more ridiculous by the day... 

Bro, I am not Otto diesel. Only merit and same telegram name. Other proof? Nothing ...
Because i am not otto

You have the same telegram name as otto_diesel - is that allowed?


Why did you trust otto_diesel then fifteen weeks later remove your trust of otto_diesel in the default trust?

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Jolly, I am still not sure why you need to explain here anything.
You accused of nepotism from a user who's not allowing you to post in the thread where is the same user accused to nepotism. also, he uses the opportunity to write here and it conditions you to withdraw your feedback trust.
I write this more for me, as a reference to know, why I am adding ~gumusi in mu trust list.

[JollyGood]

You are right, I should stop explaining here now because my right of reply has been infringed in a self-moderated thread by an attention-seeking accuser. I wanted to engage in a healthy debate with him but he just behave in an acceptable manner. If he was not deleting my posts in his own accusation thread and said I was not welcome there then I would have not created this thread. I even allowed him to post here in an uncensored non self-moderated thread but he is incapable of being civil.

Thank you for adding ~gumusi in your trust, I think that person has proved beyond doubt they are as much an immature brat as Vispilio and his buddies are.

Jolly, I am still not sure why you need to explain here anything.
You accused of nepotism from a user who's not allowing you to post in the thread where is the same user accused to nepotism. also, he uses the opportunity to write here and it conditions you to withdraw your feedback trust.
I write this more for me, as a reference to know, why I am adding ~gumusi in mu trust list.

[Timelord2o67]

...

Thank you for confirming you deleted my posts months after they were made (a review will show they were not trolling you, but feel free to rewrite history)

This thread is specifically about people who behave just like you.

Respect is a two way street.