Why newbies involves in copying already treated topic

[minairia3]

I experienced giving merit to a newbie that I thought created a very good post only to find out later that the guy only copy and paste an existing article from one article site, but it was too late, since then I always check if the posts are copy-paste.

If the post is the first one and coming from a newbie or low rank we should be very careful cause theres really a high tendency that the user copy paste it. Also we can feel if the user are saying authentic or if its too good enough, what we can do is compared his previous post to his good post if the way he construct somehow not match then chances that he copied it.

How do you check by the way if the post are copy paste? Ranking is really the goal of some for bounty even others work will be copied just to get merits.

[Findingnemo]

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join  quick campaign that will enrich them.
It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

When someone copy some content from the existing article or previous post to gain merits, they may get merit but surely their account will be banned permanently so all their efforts in copy-pasting will be ruined sooner or later, but not every newbies are doing the same thing some are trying to learn while others learn very quickly that is the difference.Nothing is stopping you from learning and also you can report if you found someone plagiarising.

[nakamura12]

The answer to your question is obvious why newbies copy already treated topic is because newbies are still learning the journey they choose to go on. Newbies doesn't have much knowledge about the field so that is why they are called newbies. Everyone who starts on a new journey will have to start from the beginning even the experts in other field would have to learn first. Some newbies will copy just to earn merita and most likely will get banned because of plagiarism. l

[GeorgeJohn]

Yeah i appreciate everyone for your suggestions and encouragement towards my development,
I promise this forum that your encouragement can not depart on me.
It's obvious that no one is island of knowledge
From all the comments I learnt things which I can never forget.
I appreciate everyone again.
Thanks.

[GDragon]

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join  quick campaign that will enrich them.
It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

I think the most common reason is those newbies are here only to get merits asap, maybe they don't realize yet that it wouldn't work here cause they haven't read the threads for newbies. They haven't realize yet that forum members will know if the post is a plagiarize one or a well research one.

There are newbies here who are really good too, and members will know it by the way they compose their ideas and topics, I don't know but as a reader I somehow know if a post really comes from the OP or from an article, cause there's a written tone when a topic comes straigth from a crypto news article, wikipedia, etc.

[Lordhermes]

Writing and copying topics treated already is isn't bad here but with another style, another idea. A wise man says " copying same post from same source is plagiarism but copying post from different sources is research "
I have seen so many dump threads but was continued by new member asking for permission from the former poster if they should continue. Topics here is already said before but how contributing and more quality could you deliver. That's the essence.
Actually, no body brings you down here. Try as much as you can to deliver quality and contributing posts to deserve merit. Success Buddy

[Shimmiry]

Newbies are so lazy to learn more about cryptocurrency and blockchain. So they end up copying and plagiarizing the content or the topic, and they don't take credits to the author because they are desperate to earn merits and rank up in a short time for them to be able to join in signature campaigns. But we all know it is not going to happen because it takes a lot of time for us to rank up and we need to make our quality content for us to earn merits.

[NavI_027]

I don't know but as a reader I somehow know if a post really comes from the OP or from an article, cause there's a written tone when a topic comes straigth from a crypto news article, wikipedia, etc.

Yeah, you can spot it by means of imagining how it sounds like while reading. If it sounds too formal then most probably it was a plagiarized post. The other method I use is by checking his post history . Inspect whether there is a pattern in his way of posting or not. For example, if his recent post was very long and clean but almost the rest of his previous posts are one liners then he might really be a plagiarist.

But of course you cannot purely rely on these methods because they are considered as assumptions only. You must still find the original source. Evidences won't lie.

[Eureka_07]

Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join  quick campaign that will enrich them.
It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

No need to tell people that they can give you merit when they found your post or your topic interesting or helpful.
They can do it whenever they want. It just seem that you are indirectly pleasing other members to give you merits. You can have it if you deserve it.
And... I think most of us came from that kind of member that will do the fastest way in order to gain.
We should just learn from not so good actions that we've done before. :p

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join  quick campaign that will enrich them.
It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

No need to tell people that they can give you merit when they found your post or your topic interesting or helpful.
They can do it whenever they want. It just seem that you are indirectly pleasing other members to give you merits. You can have it if you deserve it.
And... I think most of us came from that kind of member that will do the fastest way in order to gain.
We should just learn from not so good actions that we've done before. :p

Indeed. You don't need to please someone to give you merits when you started a topic or a content because you don't deserve it if you ask it for someone. You only deserve if someone willingly gives you merits because of your creativity, informative and quality content. It is the reason why other people copies and plagiarized post and topics to earn merits and ranked up faster, but it is impossible for other members to give them merits if they know they just copied it.

[KrisAlex18]

The reason for the plagiarism of some beginners is because of lack of knowledge, they are newbies so they are not that so familiar about the community and to the crypto world as well. They know how important the merit so they will try to create topics that they know and they considered as useful but once no one appreciates it on no one gives him or her merit, they may feel some frustration or sadness because they gave effort on it but they don't receive even one merit. That can be one of the reasons why they ended up doing plagiarism because they see some posts given merits and they tend to copy ideas without giving credits.

But my opinion should not prevent anyone who want to credit me good,
Because am here to acquire knowledge not to disregard anyone because no one is a master of wisdom.

Indeed, at the end of the day learning should be our priority, no need to rank up if you only want to gain knowledge. It's better to gain knowledge than to rank up but if you want to achieve something you should work hard for it.

[jademaxsuy]

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join  quick campaign that will enrich them.

I know that because I have been through in that phase also being new in the forum before. Newcomers were being told that in joining bounty campaigns one could earn them instantly which is really not true or if only one could get lucky to join a project that will really pay.
Due to the fact that we are coming from different countries around the world and language becomes a barrier resorting to copy and pasting posts without also learning the forum rules that could result to banning in the future.

It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.

Not to all but maybe there are those existed user created new account for some reason like if they get ban and wish to continue to explore this forum without telling MODs of course to avoid getting ban again for violating ban evasion. This is just my opinion but in my case I do not care what rank I may have as long as I can enjoy to read and reply post. I have been here for 2 years and half I guess and have been seeing new users ranking up already to legendary but did not discourage me to leave in this forum for that small reason getting merit or ranking up issue. LOL

I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Yes, but think of it that without you or this kind of post we can never lift the forum through writing good post for the forum to your thread. This is why it is normal for others to react violently because they had been here and benefited the forum.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

Well I could give you merits but there are more quality post that is deserving than this one. Besides, I am out of smerits because I do not hoard it and will eventually send it if I find post helpful that could be check for reference in the future.

[aioc]

Why will many react to your post negatively?

I think everyone gets a bit of a rush when they get a merit, I can't really comment on the ranks because I'm already at the top but I don't know if people are focusing too much on ranks and merits and less on providing discussion, insight and quality... If you're active here and interested in the currency you should be able to earn no matter (if you have any posts of good quality).

I have the same attitude I am not into merit anymore I just want to make a habit of interacting and participating in discussion in fact I am not looking if I got a merit this week or not, by participating you can learn a lot, things like merit and rank  will come to those who wait, just do what the forum ask of you.

[Smartvirus]

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join  quick campaign that will enrich them.
It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

Believe me, people are entitled to their opinions. Besides, negative comments and critics are also needed in the quest of perfection. The point is in how you respond to the comments you get not minding the type.
It's of note that this menace from plagiarism is observed in the forum but then, noted victims are often treated squarely and once you've been there, your sure to learn a lesson.
Also, I associate this act to improper research and an eagerness to rank up at all cost in the least possible time.
And I trust the forum is better prepared to handle the issue. I would also love to add that a topic can not be completely treated as we are prone to new ideas everyday.
Stay safe.

[GDragon]

I don't know but as a reader I somehow know if a post really comes from the OP or from an article, cause there's a written tone when a topic comes straigth from a crypto news article, wikipedia, etc.

Yeah, you can spot it by means of imagining how it sounds like while reading. If it sounds too formal then most probably it was a plagiarized post. The other method I use is by checking his post history . Inspect whether there is a pattern in his way of posting or not. For example, if his recent post was very long and clean but almost the rest of his previous posts are one liners then he might really be a plagiarist.

But of course you cannot purely rely on these methods because they are considered as assumptions only. You must still find the original source. Evidences won't lie.

Same, I will see it if he was really that good in creating a post. Cause what do we know if he really is a news writer? lol jk. But yep we will see it in his previous post, if all his post are really a good written one. I will check if those post are not copied from somewhere. Its easy finding though, copy paste in google and the same article will pop up.

[taufik123]

there are beginners who do stupid and useless things and there are beginners who have broad and intelligent insight so that they don't copy other people's topics to get merit.

Beginners who only copy other people's topics because they don't read the rules in this forum.

I also don't blame beginners about doing plagiarism, but they also have to learn what is allowed and prohibited in this forum.

Creating a thread with your own ideas without copying other people's topics would be better, even though the thread created is just a general idea that has been asked a lot.

Increasing awareness about making a good contribution, maintaining the quality of posts will certainly have a positive impact going forward.

[AakZaki]

I don't want to be hypocrite I used to be one of them I am in a hurry to rank because I want to join in good bounty that require you to rank at least in a junior member, but after having a newbie rank for a long time i did realize that I need to contribute healthy topics and forget about this  merit for a while and let things go on it's course.

This kind of thinking is needed by a beginner. Don't be too hasty in going after ranks. Sometimes many ways are done to get merit and reach rank quickly, such as copying articles and then posting on this forum, copying other people's answers and such. That is an instant and not original way, it violates the forum rules about plagiarism. contributing original topics from your own thinking will be better, it will give you broader insight and can learn well. Don't just focus on getting merit, because you will get merit from quality original posts.

[Assface16678]

If you are a newbie to our form most of their goals are

• earn money
• earn merit

To make successful on those things you must need to earn merits first which is one of the ways is to make a constructive post and next helping others or just making things unique that can help the forum. The problem is you are a newbie and you are not good at this thing so one of the ways is to make plagiarism to make it cool like you are a professional at the end of the day you think you can earn merit but after that, it's all plagiarism but we have other members which can find out if the thread or the post is just copy-paste from the website.

You cannot make the objective on earning if you do not meet the merits so you need to make hard work on it

[BITCOIN4X]

This kind of thinking is needed by a beginner. Don't be too hasty in going after ranks. Sometimes many ways are done to get merit and reach rank quickly, such as copying articles and then posting on this forum, copying other people's answers and such. That is an instant and not original way, it violates the forum rules about plagiarism. contributing original topics from your own thinking will be better, it will give you broader insight and can learn well. Don't just focus on getting merit, because you will get merit from quality original posts.

Maybe the lack of knowledge and experience in forum has caused beginner to try to do something that violates forum rules such as copy paste. At the same time they think that they have done a good thing because the thread or answer they wrote is of sufficient quality so that it will open up the possibility of getting services. But in the end they will only realize that what they have done has broken the rules and most of them realize when the account has been banned.

Some high ranking member who plead in meta because their account are banned sometime they dont realize that when they are beginner or when low ranking do copy paste or plagiarism. They are not even sure they have done it and will admit it when someone encounter their problem. I think everyone make mistake, but sometime they dont realize it.

[DdmrDdmr]

This pretty much sums-up the forums take on plagiarism:

<…> Plagiarism is what gets people permabanned, not just copying. Plagiarism is copying with the intent of passing the work off as your own. In essentially all cases, plagiarism deserves a permaban because it usually proves definitively that the person is here for the wrong reasons: to fill up space in order to get paid, not to actually discuss or contribute. If someone was able to convince us that they were plagiarizing just to eg. impress people rather than to fill up space, then a lesser ban of a few months might instead be warranted. But this has never happened AFAICR. (Arguments based on plausible deniability aren't going to work; we don't need to prove that you had the motive we see in your actions.)

If you treat posting as a job, a chore, then you must live in fear, since the forum is not made for you. In this case, you need to blend in as someone who actually cares, but plagiarism will immediately out you, and producing a mountain of useless posts will also eventually be noticed, if more slowly. If you do actually care, then this will be obvious in your posts (and probably your merit score), and you will have nothing to fear from moderators; even allegations of plagiarism will be doubted when seen in the context of your other posts.<…>

The key here is intent, although one may assume that the principal cause for plagiarism is that of cutting corners, and filling-in posts without having to give them much thought. Were I to have left out the quotes above, I figure that my intent would be read accordingly in an appeal ...