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July 16, 2020, 06:21:17 AM
Last edit: July 16, 2020, 10:12:14 AM by Lorence.xD
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Recently, twitter accounts of famous people have been hacked and they all posted something in the line "send 1000$ and I will double it". This is the oldest trick in the scammers bible, and wouldn't you know it people fall for it. Yes the hacks should be condemned and the hackers should be apprehended because they are scamming innocent people, before we all burn these hackers in stakes we also should address the fact that these so called innocents are still falling to these thing. In my opinion these people that got their money scammed shouldn't receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them, I have seen a lot of scams and this victims of bitcoin doubling scam should be ridiculed and laughed at because they have fallen for these, I am standing by that opinion because most of these victims are functioning members of the society, they are not your run of the mill old people getting scammed by tech support scammers, these so called innocent victims are not senile, so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible, these makes the work of people who are trying to educate people about scams less effective because no matter how much effort they put in, these pathetic gullible losers still fall for it. This is just a rant about the recent twitter doubling scam, I was watching Crit1kal and as he continue to talk about these I felt a seething rage not for the scammer but for the victims because these is the oldest trick in the book. Feel free to disagree with me but I will stand with my opinion, can't help but to laugh at these victims falling for that. These fiasco should also be a lesson to not take things on the Internet at face value, if you are a high-functioning member of the society then ask yourself why would they give me these x amount of bitcoin/money and why should I send a bitcoin/money first?

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July 16, 2020, 06:35:53 AM
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In my opinion these people that got their money scammed should receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them, I have seen a lot of scams and this victims of bitcoin doubling scam should be ridiculed and laughed at because they have fallen for these
The two bolded parts of your statement are contradictory. People usually get into crypto after they hear how someone got rich over it or that you can use your PC to "make money". It's a quite deceiving perspective and many are fooled by it, so a "send your BTC, we'll double it!" scam isn't too far fetched for a newcomer - especially if greed is also in the game. I wouldn't necessarily say newbies are to blame, I was one as well and I did also think in the beginning that BTC is a money-making machine.

these so called innocent victims are not senile, so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible, these makes the work of people who are trying to educate people about scams less effective because no matter how much effort they put in, these pathetic gullible losers still fall for it.
Whoa, now I think you're kinda exaggerating.. Come on, use these words to describe maybe the hackers, not their victims.

This is just a rant about the recent twitter doubling scam, I was watching Crit1kal and as he continue to talk about these I felt a seething rage not for the scammer but for the victims because these is the oldest trick in the book. Feel free to disagree with me but I will stand with my opinion, can't help but to laugh at these victims falling for that. These fiasco should also be a lesson to not take things on the Internet at face value, if you are a high-functioning member of the society then ask yourself why would they give me these x amount of bitcoin/money and why should I send a bitcoin/money first?
Humans are greedy and a deceiving perspective doesn't help at all. Ransomwares are also very old scams but surely still are very effective.

The average person opening up Elon Musk's Twitter profile for the first time may not even consider that these hacked posts are actually scams. All you know is they are trusted billionaires "willing to make this world a better place".
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July 16, 2020, 09:50:15 AM
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Oldest and most obvious scam but still being use and people are still falling for it.
I just don't get it why people still fall for such obvious trick just think about it how could they possibly make it happen when it is all about business.
I don't know if they are getting clever or people are being fooled by their own greed they are turning blindly on the fact that it is impossible to really happen.
Joining such investment are only tolerating this kind of schemes this is why they are still around till this day.
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July 16, 2020, 10:10:51 AM
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In my opinion these people that got their money scammed should receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them, I have seen a lot of scams and this victims of bitcoin doubling scam should be ridiculed and laughed at because they have fallen for these
The two bolded parts of your statement are contradictory. People usually get into crypto after they hear how someone got rich over it or that you can use your PC to "make money". It's a quite deceiving perspective and many are fooled by it, so a "send your BTC, we'll double it!" scam isn't too far fetched for a newcomer - especially if greed is also in the game. I wouldn't necessarily say newbies are to blame, I was one as well and I did also think in the beginning that BTC is a money-making machine.

these so called innocent victims are not senile, so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible, these makes the work of people who are trying to educate people about scams less effective because no matter how much effort they put in, these pathetic gullible losers still fall for it.
Whoa, now I think you're kinda exaggerating.. Come on, use these words to describe maybe the hackers, not their victims.

This is just a rant about the recent twitter doubling scam, I was watching Crit1kal and as he continue to talk about these I felt a seething rage not for the scammer but for the victims because these is the oldest trick in the book. Feel free to disagree with me but I will stand with my opinion, can't help but to laugh at these victims falling for that. These fiasco should also be a lesson to not take things on the Internet at face value, if you are a high-functioning member of the society then ask yourself why would they give me these x amount of bitcoin/money and why should I send a bitcoin/money first?
Humans are greedy and a deceiving perspective doesn't help at all. Ransomwares are also very old scams but surely still are very effective.

The average person opening up Elon Musk's Twitter profile for the first time may not even consider that these hacked posts are actually scams. All you know is they are trusted billionaires "willing to make this world a better place".
  • It was a typo, I am sorry
  • With so many people that falled for this doubling scam, I think they deserve some beration because this is an old school trick, people that educate people about scams are losing the good fight because idiots stil fall for it.
  • Any sane person will not trust someone that easily, even if they are the savior of humanity, people need to have a sliver of doubt so they will not become sheep, regarding ransomwares, companies should impose stricter rules for employees using the time for work for leisure purposes, most ransomwares breach through unknowing lazy employee using the work time for their personal time.

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July 16, 2020, 10:25:11 AM
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While I think it's really ridiculous how people could fall for such obvious scams, come on dude. They already got scammed. That itself should be enough damage to them to teach them a lesson. Laughing at them and ridiculing them? That's totally totally unnecessary. Why not try to educate them instead?

P.S. Work a bit on your writing. That's a huge block of text.

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July 16, 2020, 10:40:25 AM
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Recently, twitter accounts of famous people have been hacked and they all posted something in the line "send 1000$ and I will double it". This is the oldest trick in the scammers bible, and wouldn't you know it people fall for it. Yes the hacks should be condemned and the hackers should be apprehended because they are scamming innocent people, before we all burn these hackers in stakes we also should address the fact that these so called innocents are still falling to these thing. In my opinion these people that got their money scammed shouldn't receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them, I have seen a lot of scams and this victims of bitcoin doubling scam should be ridiculed and laughed at because they have fallen for these, I am standing by that opinion because most of these victims are functioning members of the society, they are not your run of the mill old people getting scammed by tech support scammers, these so called innocent victims are not senile, so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible, these makes the work of people who are trying to educate people about scams less effective because no matter how much effort they put in, these pathetic gullible losers still fall for it. This is just a rant about the recent twitter doubling scam, I was watching Crit1kal and as he continue to talk about these I felt a seething rage not for the scammer but for the victims because these is the oldest trick in the book. Feel free to disagree with me but I will stand with my opinion, can't help but to laugh at these victims falling for that. These fiasco should also be a lesson to not take things on the Internet at face value, if you are a high-functioning member of the society then ask yourself why would they give me these x amount of bitcoin/money and why should I send a bitcoin/money first?

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That's called victim-blaming, and there's nothing good about it. Whenever something bad happens to people, they face a wave of victim blamers telling them what they should and should not have done in this situation. It's easy to say such things when something happened to another person, but the truth is that we all make mistakes for which we could be blamed. Now back to this particular case of the Twitter hack, people who tend to trust authorities had a reason to believe that this was not a scam because information was published from verified accounts of highly reputable people and similar hacks never happened again. Not to mention that people need to know about scams not to fall for them, and some people simply don't get proper education and environment to push them towards analyzing such situations and not falling for this. They should not be blamed for not knowing. Who is clearly the 'bad guy' in this story is the hacker(s) that mislead or simply rob people. And instead of blaming the victims, it would be more productive to think what can be done to prevent such situations from occurring, such as higher security and anti-scam educational campaigns for social groups that tend to suffer from them most often (or for everyone if there's no particularly vulnerable group).

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July 16, 2020, 02:41:44 PM
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I can actually feel you. Sometimes instead of sympathy a lot of victims seem to deserve some blame. But I don't think they need to receive ridicule or should be laughed at. They need to receive some kind of an admonishing sermon.

It seems to me that some of these victims of obvious scams are not really innocent. They are greedy and lazy and inutile. And to a certain extent they deserve it. It is partly their fault that they fell to such foolish scam.

Who in this whole goddamn world would send BTC to Barack Obama or Jeff Bezos because of a promise to double the amount they send?

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July 16, 2020, 03:36:14 PM
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Can't blame them in this case tbh, accounts that were hacked were of famous people that have the capital to actually do what the posts say, so who wouldn't try right? In case you want to argue that there were a lot of accounts that said the same thing, I can also argue back that did they know? Not everyone that Follows Apple twitter also follows Elon Musk right? Well, not saying that they aren't completely not to blame for the actions they made, but eh, it's done already, not much we can do about it. Even if we do blame them for all that matters, fact is, they got scammed, and it was one that was well, arguably better than some random sht poster asking you to send money to xxx site for money.

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July 16, 2020, 03:52:09 PM
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The reason for easy scamming these people is the excessive turst those famous people and they do not make mistakes.
If someone like Bill Gates invests in a currency, even if it is scam or funny, you will find millions investing in it without looking for it, or google it.
Therefore, many people easily sent money to scammers because they thought they were these famous people.

people shoud trust them search more than people
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July 16, 2020, 04:13:26 PM
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Recently, twitter accounts of famous people have been hacked and they all posted something in the line "send 1000$ and I will double it". This is the oldest trick in the scammers bible, and wouldn't you know it people fall for it. Yes the hacks should be condemned and the hackers should be apprehended because they are scamming innocent people, before we all burn these hackers in stakes we also should address the fact that these so called innocents are still falling to these thing. In my opinion these people that got their money scammed shouldn't receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them, I have seen a lot of scams and this victims of bitcoin doubling scam should be ridiculed and laughed at because they have fallen for these, I am standing by that opinion because most of these victims are functioning members of the society, they are not your run of the mill old people getting scammed by tech support scammers, these so called innocent victims are not senile, so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible, these makes the work of people who are trying to educate people about scams less effective because no matter how much effort they put in, these pathetic gullible losers still fall for it. This is just a rant about the recent twitter doubling scam, I was watching Crit1kal and as he continue to talk about these I felt a seething rage not for the scammer but for the victims because these is the oldest trick in the book. Feel free to disagree with me but I will stand with my opinion, can't help but to laugh at these victims falling for that. These fiasco should also be a lesson to not take things on the Internet at face value, if you are a high-functioning member of the society then ask yourself why would they give me these x amount of bitcoin/money and why should I send a bitcoin/money first?

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I would agree with you that the scam should be condemned and I would want to remain neutral as to whether the people who fell victim of it should be compensated or not.

My position is that, the people who got scammed are not expected to be new to crypto because I don't expect a random person who is following those accounts to see the tweet and then decides that is the exact day to enter crypto because of the ''free money'' a celeb is promising. So, its purely greed which is the same thing that is making the ponzi promoters having a field day any time they launch because someone somewhere is expecting the free money only to get his/her hand bitten.
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... so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible ...

Every person, including you, is pathetic and gullible to some degree. Why do you draw a line that decides who deserves sympathy and who doesn't, and why should anyone care where you draw that line? Everyone deserves some amount of sympathy. Where I'm from, we call someone with no sympathy "asshole".

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Recently, twitter accounts of famous people have been hacked and they all posted something in the line "send 1000$ and I will double it". This is the oldest trick in the scammers bible, and wouldn't you know it people fall for -

I would agree with you that the scam should be condemned and I would want to remain neutral as to whether the people who fell victim of it should be compensated or not.

My position is that, the people who got scammed are not expected to be new to crypto because I don't expect a random person who is following those accounts to see the tweet and then decides that is the exact day to enter crypto because of the ''free money'' a celeb is promising. So, its purely greed which is the same thing that is making the ponzi promoters having a field day any time they launch because someone somewhere is expecting the free money only to get his/her hand bitten.

Greed is primarily the  reason why these old ways of scamming do still really have effect nowadays but this one only fits out on a very high extent way of deceiving and we have seen the current twitter account scam issue
which do make use of high popularity personalities which is relevant to investment or crypto market which will really poke out peoples interest since they do know that someone on that list did really suggest something
which would really be true in most cases and blindly believe on whats been told without even tending to realize on what is the thing that had been asked.Human being are naturally greedy, some would able to control it
and some wouldnt able to refuse it down when they do know that easy money will come next in line.

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July 17, 2020, 03:11:55 AM
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While I think it's really ridiculous how people could fall for such obvious scams, come on dude. They already got scammed. That itself should be enough damage to them to teach them a lesson. Laughing at them and ridiculing them? That's totally totally unnecessary. Why not try to educate them instead?

P.S. Work a bit on your writing. That's a huge block of text.
Granted that they got scammed, shouldn't that experience make them become more smart and skeptical in the traitorous lands of cyberspace. But if these were to happen the second time then that is not something I myself could not let go, they did not learn from their mistake so they should be ridiculed and laughed at. Sorry if my writing is vomit inducing, I am on phone so I do not have the time to edit the writing that much. Smiley

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July 17, 2020, 03:50:22 AM
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While I think it's really ridiculous how people could fall for such obvious scams, come on dude. They already got scammed. That itself should be enough damage to them to teach them a lesson. Laughing at them and ridiculing them? That's totally totally unnecessary. Why not try to educate them instead?

P.S. Work a bit on your writing. That's a huge block of text.
Man, the big problem in here is the scam information have been tweeted on  twitter accounts with high trusting rate, it will look like the topic or comment written by mods on this forum, newbie will not be skeptical and with a little greedy, they will be scammed "first come, first served".
This is a great lesson for everyone about evaluating the reliability of social media, everything is possible.
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July 17, 2020, 03:57:23 AM
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While I think it's really ridiculous how people could fall for such obvious scams, come on dude. They already got scammed. That itself should be enough damage to them to teach them a lesson. Laughing at them and ridiculing them? That's totally totally unnecessary. Why not try to educate them instead?

P.S. Work a bit on your writing. That's a huge block of text.

Twitter will be held liable for all losses.

Btw it was about 115,000 usd.

I would say some senders know the law and are willing to fight twitter to get a refund.

So sending in the coins may not be as dumb as you think.

As the sender will go after twitter for the loss.

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Again, granted that they are victim, but what if they got goofed the second time around, will you still not blame them, also why would you trust a personality in Twitter without a hint of skepticism. These fools that are so called victims are functioning member of society and you say that they shouldn't be blamed, why do they get just a slap on the wrist. These are also the people that makes me lose hope in educating people to prevent scams.

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July 17, 2020, 05:15:34 AM
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Again, granted that they are victim, but what if they got goofed the second time around, will you still not blame them, also why would you trust a personality in Twitter without a hint of skepticism.
If they happen to fell for another classical scam like this, then it is more likely that the money they paid for these hackers does not gave them a valuable money lesson and that is true to some extent.

These fools that are so called victims are functioning member of society and you say that they shouldn't be blamed, why do they get just a slap on the wrist. These are also the people that makes me lose hope in educating people to prevent scams.
You don't have any control to people's mind and each of us have our own fetish on what are we going to do with our own money -- it is definitely out of your league especially if these criminals used reputable profiles to mask themselves and put tremendous pressure of persuasion to fragile and uneducated human beings.

If you can't take their failure, then it would be better to just ignore them rather than making fun of them.

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July 17, 2020, 05:28:03 AM
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Recently, twitter accounts of famous people have been hacked and they all posted something in the line "send 1000$ and I will double it". This is the oldest trick in the scammers bible, and wouldn't you know it people fall for it. Yes the hacks should be condemned and the hackers should be apprehended because they are scamming innocent people, before we all burn these hackers in stakes we also should address the fact that these so called innocents are still falling to these thing. In my opinion these people that got their money scammed shouldn't receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them, I have seen a lot of scams and this victims of bitcoin doubling scam should be ridiculed and laughed at because they have fallen for these, I am standing by that opinion because most of these victims are functioning members of the society, they are not your run of the mill old people getting scammed by tech support scammers, these so called innocent victims are not senile, so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible, these makes the work of people who are trying to educate people about scams less effective because no matter how much effort they put in, these pathetic gullible losers still fall for it. This is just a rant about the recent twitter doubling scam, I was watching Crit1kal and as he continue to talk about these I felt a seething rage not for the scammer but for the victims because these is the oldest trick in the book. Feel free to disagree with me but I will stand with my opinion, can't help but to laugh at these victims falling for that. These fiasco should also be a lesson to not take things on the Internet at face value, if you are a high-functioning member of the society then ask yourself why would they give me these x amount of bitcoin/money and why should I send a bitcoin/money first?

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It is so sad to see so many people falling for it. Like, man seriously? Why would someone even double their money for free? And if they really wanted to giveaway free coins, they could have just asked for their wallet address. Why would they want them to send money first? So many red flags, but those people still falls for the scam, which is indeed sad.
At those people that got scammed learned a lesson.
The most weird part is how the tweets were up long enough to scam people. Like why didn't twitter take their whole site down as soon as they saw a breach and suspicious activity?

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July 17, 2020, 05:30:47 AM
Last edit: July 17, 2020, 10:55:19 AM by cryptomaniac_xxx
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That's too harsh in my opinion, no need to go to that extend and ridicule and humiliate them. I'm sure they have learned their lessons already and it is enough. Let's put it this way, you are the one who send bitcoin to this scammers, should you get the same treatment or not? so think very hard. And how many of us fall victim specially when we are just starting here? I myself was a bitcoin doubler victim, and it taught me a valuable lesson.
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July 17, 2020, 05:33:52 AM
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Everybody has their bad day and those people who fell for that twitter shit were the one this time. If they got scammed then it was their mistake, if they are careful enough then surely they will learn from their mistakes next time if this happens.

Also, they will be the mouth to mouth advertiser that how doubling scam works and how one should stop investing into such schemes. They will act as catalyst for the new people ahead who are willing to invest in such ponzi schemes. Yes it costed them huge loss but that lesson for life and upcoming noobs.

Just imagine, many noobs might be reading our discussion at this point and they might have come to know how doubling is scam. Prevented from scams!  Wink
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