Trump Strips CDC of Control of Coronavirus Data

[BADecker]

Don't worry, folks. The CDC has been manipulating the data from hospitals and other sources, so that they can feed you a lie... that Covid is a big problem. CDC - the Center for Disease Control and Prevention... or as some of us are finding out, the Center for Disease Creation and Propagation.

It's all part of Trump draining the Swamp. And the Swamp doesn't like being drained.

The danger is, Trump's ideal won't be around forever. If he gives the presidency too much power, when the Swamp gets one of theirs in again, it might be good-bye for us all. We need to wake up the usage of our personal common law court of record.


Trump Strips CDC of Control of Coronavirus Data

Hospitals have been ordered to bypass the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and send all patient information to a central database in Washington, raising questions about transparency.

The new instructions were posted recently in a little-noticed document on the Department of Health and Human Services website. From now on, the department — not the C.D.C. — will collect daily reports about the patients that each hospital is treating, the number of available beds and ventilators, and other information vital to tracking the pandemic.

"Historically, C.D.C. has been the place where public health data has been sent, and this raises questions about not just access for researchers but access for reporters, access for the public to try to better understand what is happening with the outbreak," said Jen Kates, the director of global health and H.I.V. policy with the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation.

"How will the data be protected?" she asked. "Will there be transparency, will there be access, and what is the role of the C.D.C. in understanding the data?"

Michael R. Caputo, a Health and Human Services spokesman, called the C.D.C.'s system inadequate and said the two systems would be linked. The C.D.C. would continue to make data public, he said.

[franky1]

such an unresearch topic creator above

you do know thats hospitals send data to the DHS (department of health services)
you do know that the DHS sends data to washington

your claims that its hospitals->cdc->washington
show how foolish you are

heck even the cdc have been saying for month now their data is delayed because hospitals dont directly report to them daily

your whole script months ago about was about this delay of data. so while it was fun debunking you with your own silly misinterpretations.
i was even telling you to check your own states DHS dashboard for more accurate uptodate straight from source numbers..
the CDC has never has then dominant control of data.
trump just wants to make it sound like they did so he can pretend he was the one that took it away

its like a friend of yours saying your immortal. (your not in reality) but after saying you are immortal. then comes up to you. waves his feather bowa in your face and says i have now made you mortal.
the reality is you never were. but your friend is playing games to make you believe in magic
.. by friend i mean the male masseuse you pay to act like he is a doctor while stroking your ego

[BADecker]

such an unresearch topic creator above

you do know thats hospitals send data to the DHS (department of health services)
you do know that the DHS sends data to washington

your claims that its hospitals->cdc->washington
show how foolish you are

heck even the cdc have been saying for month now their data is delayed because hospitals dont directly report to them daily

your whole script months ago about was about this delay of data. so while it was fun debunking you with your own silly misinterpretations.
i was even telling you to check your own states DHS dashboard for more accurate uptodate straight from source numbers..
the CDC has never has then dominant control of data.
trump just wants to make it sound like they did so he can pretend he was the one that took it away

its like a friend of yours saying your immortal. (your not in reality) but after saying you are immortal. then comes up to you. waves his feather bowa in your face and says i have now made you mortal.
the reality is you never were. but your friend is playing games to make you believe in magic
.. by friend i mean the male masseuse you pay to act like he is a doctor while stroking your ego

Well, now that the CDC is not the only place that the info comes from, the next step is to see if the reporting agencies are reporting the info correctly and honestly. Of course, this is the first thing that we should have been doing, so that we are sure that we are getting the truth. There are too many anomalies in the data, to many inconsistent ideas from those who interpret it, to know what is truth without getting right to it ourselves.

What's the matter? You are finding out that you are living in a lie-world. And in your pain, your childishness causes you to lash out at even the truth. Oh, well. You are only hurting yourself, ultimately.

[madnessteat]

That's very good news. The authorities in all countries now need to change the usual schemes for collecting, processing and storing information about the virus. Also, it would not hurt to criminalize the falsification of statistics on the number of diseases.

[BADecker]

That's very good news. The authorities in all countries now need to change the usual schemes for collecting, processing and storing information about the virus. Also, it would not hurt to criminalize the falsification of statistics on the number of diseases.

And the way to do it is to require them to prove whatever they say about viruses like is shown in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5meH2iAjIU. The video is 41 minutes long, so you have to be patient and listen to the reasons why no Covid was ever proven to exist. The basis for the virus is in the testing methods - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch%27s_postulates - which weren't followed, because the test reports SAY they weren't followed.

Okay. Whatever the reports show, the proof only comes from getting the real, live testing people on the stand under oath, expressing that, yes, they did the tests, and the test results that they showed were real. That plus being able to duplicate the tests.

Regarding Covid, the tests were never done according to the medical rules laid down. And they are still not being done according to these rules in testing to see if people are positive or negative. Or, let's get them into court under oath with penalty of 20 years in prison for lying, and actually find out what is real, and what is hearsay. Of course, some of them might like prison. So maybe that isn't even proof.

[franky1]

oh badecker. how sucky must your brain be
only last month did you end up debunking yourself about the kosh postulates .. when you finally realised it did pass that.
you then switched gear and then said that the kosh postulates were not important and meaningless
seems your circling the lies and forgetting which lie you already circled

as for the medical stuff and 'under oath'
doctors actually already have an oath with penalties
i know your male masseuse that comes to your house and dresses as a doctor doesnt have an actual doctors licence, so i can see where you get confused. but it really is worth you learning about topics and doing some research about things. and not just copy/pasting opinions of some conspiracy cult website you view daily.

well im hoping your just copy/pasting conspiracy cult scripts without reading it. because if your really this ignorant and forgetful about your own words. then you need to seek help

[franky1]

That's very good news. The authorities in all countries now need to change the usual schemes for collecting, processing and storing information about the virus. Also, it would not hurt to criminalize the falsification of statistics on the number of diseases.

its already a criminal offence to falsify medical records
countries already have their own localised data collection methods

pretending the US CDC is the data centre and puppet master. just shows how fooled people have been by their faux media conspiracy stories

[BADecker]

oh badecker. how sucky must your brain be
only last month did you end up debunking yourself about the kosh postulates .. when you finally realised it did pass that.
you then switched gear and then said that the kosh postulates were not important and meaningless
seems your circling the lies and forgetting which lie you already circled

as for the medical stuff and 'under oath'
doctors actually already have an oath with penalties
i know your male masseuse that comes to your house and dresses as a doctor doesnt have an actual doctors licence, so i can see where you get confused. but it really is worth you learning about topics and doing some research about things. and not just copy/pasting opinions of some conspiracy cult website you view daily.

well im hoping your just copy/pasting conspiracy cult scripts without reading it. because if your really this ignorant and forgetful about your own words. then you need to seek help

Hi, F-1. It's so enjoyable to see you ranting and raving without explaining what you are talking about, or having references. We like it.

You are so silly. Don't you realize that an oath on file is not the same as attesting to it in court?, or proving it out in court by presenting something truthfully?

Did you make it out fishing today? Lol.

[Spendulus]

Don't worry, folks. The CDC has been manipulating the data from hospitals and other sources, so that they can feed you a lie...
..../

Nope, that's a total fantasy.

[BADecker]

Don't worry, folks. The CDC has been manipulating the data from hospitals and other sources, so that they can feed you a lie...
..../

Nope, that's a total fantasy.

Nope, you are totally mistaken. The manipulation often comes in the form of instructing the hospitals in the ways they are to provide false data in the first place. So, you might be right if you are only considering data once it comes out of the hospitals.

[Spendulus]

Don't worry, folks. The CDC has been manipulating the data from hospitals and other sources, so that they can feed you a lie...
..../

Nope, that's a total fantasy.

Nope, you are totally mistaken. The manipulation often comes ...

That's your fantasy.

This is me telling you that's totally your fantasy.

[BADecker]

Don't worry, folks. The CDC has been manipulating the data from hospitals and other sources, so that they can feed you a lie...
..../

Nope, that's a total fantasy.

Nope, you are totally mistaken. The manipulation often comes ...

That's your fantasy.

This is me telling you that's totally your fantasy.

Not my idea, though things may have changed, somewhat:

CDC Tells Hospitals To List COVID as Cause of Death Even if You're Just Assuming or It Only Contributed

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Issued March 24, the guidance tells hospitals to list COVID-19 as a cause of death regardless of whether or not there’s actual testing to confirm that’s the case.

Instead, even if the coronavirus was just a contributing factor or if it’s “assumed to have caused or contributed to death,” it can be listed as the primary cause.

...

And there are more sites that say the same.

In addition, at least one of the videos at The Highwire shows the CDC wording. But you will have to dig it up if you want to see it... from 3 or 4 of months ago, or so.

However, on The Highwire, the video "BLOWING THE WHISTLE ON COVID-19" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4u1LJQ7_k shows Dr. Deborah Birx stating some interesting things that indicate the truth isn't supposed to be told - starting about 48 minutes in. So, if you truthfully state that you're not telling the truth, is such supposed to be accepted as truth?

If you don't wake up to the fact that the numbers are skewed beyond being able to figure out what the truth is, you are simply missing what is going on around you.

[franky1]

oh badecker thanks for admitting that your scripts are not your idea . we all knew your posts are scripts you just repeat without understanding

we know as soon as you finally accept how wrong your posts are, you declare that they were not your thoughts in the first place.
we have known your tactic all the time

we have tried to tell you to stop just copy/pasting scripts but to actually research and check and validate them first.

...
but anyway
the CDC actually wrote full guidelines that explain how to diagnose a patient.
i know you only want to use some faux media insane summary of what was not said. but multiple times you have been linked the actual documents and told to read the source.

so by you not even willing to escape a fantasy someone else created. it became your fantasy because you decided to stay in it

[Barnabe]

I don't really know the situation in the US, but there has been cases of statistics manipulation in other countries.
Even if it is less likely to happen in the US it is still possible.

[BADecker]

Now, don't misunderstand. This probably is something that hasn't been done, yet. But it should be done. And it is my guesstimation that it would prove a whole bunch of lies and cover-ups by the CDC. (Actually, proof of CDC lies and manipulation are right in the CDC's own written reports.) I suspect that all kinds of CDC people are wiping their drives, and burning their bridges, right now, while there is still time.

Of course, the President is aware that there is all kinds of bad stuff in the CDC. The, below, report is simply helping to make him aware, that we know he is aware, and that we are helping each other to be aware... of the fact that the CDC is corrupt to its core.

The interesting thing is that some of the CDC's doings actually help people. God even uses corruption to help His people.


Dispatches from the War: Mr. Trump, Deliver a Knockout Blow to the Traitorous CDC

Let's get domestic.

I promise you, Mr. President, if you send a hundred FBI agents into the CDC and remove millions of their files as evidence, you'll discover this federal agency is entirely corrupt, and has been for decades.

While the Department of Justice prepares indictments, make a public declaration that your administration will ignore all their COVID case numbers and recommendations. They're criminal liars. That's their whole game.

Let me help you out with four examples. Face it, you're not good with details, so you may want a team to summarize the following revelations for you.

ONE: The Atlantic, May 21, 2020, has a story, headlined, "How could the CDC make that mistake?"

I'll give you the key quotes, and then comment on the stark inference The Atlantic somehow failed to grasp.

"We've learned that the CDC is making, at best, a debilitating mistake: combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus…The agency confirmed to The Atlantic on Wednesday that it is mixing the results of viral [PCR] and antibody tests, even though the two tests reveal different information and are used for different reasons."

[Cnut237]

Has this thread title been abbreviated?
Perhaps the full sentence should read: Trump strips CDC of Control of Coronavirus Data because simple unvarnished facts are an inconvenience and stop him from manipulating the narrative.

How can this ever be a good idea? The concentration of power in the hands of a single individual has some unfortunate historical examples.
If a President takes steps to reduce transparency, then that is because he has something to hide.

[franky1]

nations get their data from their health service departments direct.

the data found on CDC is their own collation of data that comes LATER
in the UK the ONS comes later. but idiots dont accept this reality either

no agency is relying on CDC/ONS for the 'live data' of daily reporting

CDC has been transparent that it collates its data slowly and can be weeks to get the accurate numbers
i have even told badecker abut this

the idiot does not learn
his cultish influencers pretend the world relies on the CDC data for daily numbers and its the CDC fudging the numbers
it pretty much explains how little these idiots dont know about a topic and even after months of telling a particular set of idiots they still dont learn

trump has not removed any powers from CDC because CDC never had the powers that trump thinks they had
same with WHO
WHO is an advisory board not a authority. they have no powers to just invade china. so when trump had his hissy fit that WHO didnt raid china. trump just didnt realise what WHO does. and doesnt do

he is in his full right to withdraw his government donations to WHO. but he wanted to blackmail WHO by threatening to not pay the next instalment unless they raided china.
its not nor ever was WHO's job to raid any country. so trump could not even successfully blackmail them into doing something they just cant do.

so with this new hissy fit about the CDC
smart people are looking at state departments daily reporting.. while trump stays naive looking at the CDC website and crying about why its not showing daily numbers.
maybe someone should tell these idiots they need to learn where to look
im sure some have told trump to look at state health departments. but he got confused and thought he was being asked to replace the CDC for state departments.. not realising they were just telling him to look on the already in place state department websites.

..
a more believable title would just be "trump strips" as i can easily think he would be a guy that can actually atleast handle that.
just being in the top seat doesnt make you the top intellect

[BADecker]

nations get their data from their health service departments direct.

Come on, franky1. Doctors aren't the bad guys. The false numbers don't come from them. You are cutting down your own profession. Are you close to retirement? You're going to lose your job talking like this.

[franky1]

nations get their data from their health service departments direct.

Come on, franky1. Doctors aren't the bad guys. The false numbers don't come from them. You are cutting down your own profession. Are you close to retirement? You're going to lose your job talking like this.

the reality is doctors do a good job they actually have a long process to go through for diagnosis.

i know your cultish sites think hospital doctors just write random stuff on prescription forms. but thats because your cultish influencers go to shady family clinics and pay their doctor just to write anything.
they dont have a clue what real doctors in hospitals do

the family clinic doctors own their clinics so its not like they can discipline themselves. so they are not accountable

but hospital doctors have employment contracts and medical licences, insurances, liabilities, they have accountability and responsibility that come with repercussions

when you realise the difference between hospital doctors and clinic doctors(EG your drug dispensing 'chiropractor') you will start to become aware of the flaws in your scripts you read.

then you start to realise the people your cultish influencers interview are either ex hospital workers/going through some reprimand procedure and trying to seek vengeance and shifting blame off themselves. or they own silly clinics and not responsible to anyone. and dont care about what happens as long as they get paid to be interviewed.


then if you actually go find actual hospital doctors that do real diagnostics and have the tests/equipment and other things a hospital have. you start to realise how little the cultish influencers interviewees know.

you dont have to be a doctor to see the flaws in the scripts you believe in. you just have to not be a blind devoted idiot
one day you might smarten up and realise how hole you dug yourself into and how its led you into something hard to escape. but instead of giving up or digging deeper. try to escape and actually then learn to not be an idiot

[BADecker]

nations get their data from their health service departments direct.

Come on, franky1. Doctors aren't the bad guys. The false numbers don't come from them. You are cutting down your own profession. Are you close to retirement? You're going to lose your job talking like this.

the reality is doctors do a good job they actually have a long process to go through for diagnosis.

Everybody knows this of some of the doctors. You can tell by the way they are defying the CDC mandates, and telling the truth about cause of death in many places. They also are giving oxygen to people, straight, without ventilators, so that most of them survive. They are also getting them on hydroxychloroquine (bleach) when they can get away with it, and supplementing with zinc, as well. They are also perscribing the vitamin C/vitamin D3/zinc combo so that many survive.

In other words, if it weren't for doctors trying to save their patience/patients, many more people would have succumbed to you and the CDC.