The Face Mask Placebo

[JohnBitCo]

Masks don't necessarily help you prevent the disease, but they certainly do help you prevent others from catching your disease.

Did you think that the whole point was to save yourself, rather than to prevent the spread of disease? Well, now you know.

Also there is a phycological factor involved in it. When you wear a mask and the other person wear a mask, both of the person believe and thinks that virus cannot harm them as there is no way for a virus to transmit trough nose and mouth. The person who is suffering from covid 19 MUST wear the mask so that others are not effected by the disease.

[Spendulus]

Masks don't necessarily help you prevent the disease, but they certainly do help you prevent others from catching your disease.

Did you think that the whole point was to save yourself, rather than to prevent the spread of disease? Well, now you know.

Also there is a phycological factor involved in it. When you wear a mask and the other person wear a mask, both of the person believe and thinks that virus cannot harm them as there is no way for a virus to transmit trough nose and mouth. The person who is suffering from covid 19 MUST wear the mask so that others are not effected by the disease.

I've got a dingy old N95 mask that's been used a hundred times in abut six Montths. It's got a rich harvest on it from everywhere it's been. Of course, it's never been cleaned or touched. Touch it? Who knows what nasties are there. This mask, I would feel guilty wearing it around my worst enemies.

[JohnBitCo]

Masks don't necessarily help you prevent the disease, but they certainly do help you prevent others from catching your disease.

Did you think that the whole point was to save yourself, rather than to prevent the spread of disease? Well, now you know.

Also there is a phycological factor involved in it. When you wear a mask and the other person wear a mask, both of the person believe and thinks that virus cannot harm them as there is no way for a virus to transmit trough nose and mouth. The person who is suffering from covid 19 MUST wear the mask so that others are not effected by the disease.

I've got a dingy old N95 mask that's been used a hundred times in abut six Montths. It's got a rich harvest on it from everywhere it's been. Of course, it's never been cleaned or touched. Touch it? Who knows what nasties are there. This mask, I would feel guilty wearing it around my worst enemies.

Your old N95 mask can harm you more than not wearing a mask. I think you should read the Recommended Guidance for Extended Use and Limited Reuse of N95 Filtering Facepiece Respirators in Healthcare Settings
Most of these masks are made for limited use only and should be dispose off after the use.

[Barnabe]

This thread seems quite strange to me...
We all know that the virus is transmitted though saliva droplets, the masks blocks these droplets, so using a mask is useful to stop the virus transmission. I don't know why people do so much mental gymnastics and try to argue it's ineffective.


Then there is some people saying in bad faith that wearing a mask for a few minutes can be dangerous or have effects worse than using masks, but not giving any source or even seeming to have basic common sense...

I can understand people saying that don't want to use a mask simply because they don't want to. But stop trying to justify it with a bogus scientific claim, you just sound more stupid...

[Jet Cash]

People do not use face masks correctly. You don't need reports and stats to confirm this. Just park in a supermarket car park and watch the shoppers.

Face masks do not protect the wearer, but are used to contain the virus, and thus prevent it spreading. This means that the virus is within the mask, and will probably be breather back into the wearers body. This increases the work that the immune system has to do.

Face mask restrict the release of carbon dioxide, and reduce oxygen intake. This is another thing that increases the workload on the immune system.

Disposal pof face masks presents yet another method for spreading the virus, as most people are careless and inconsiderate.

The northern hemisphere is in the middle of summer, and this is the time when we have the greatest ability to build immunity to viruses. It seems madness to me to restrict the spread of the virus dyring this healthy period, and wait until the unhealthy winter to try to cope with an increased number of infections.

[FIFA worldcup]

People do not use face masks correctly. You don't need reports and stats to confirm this. Just park in a supermarket car park and watch the shoppers.

I have seen many people wear face mask because it is mandatory to wear it as per the laws of the country. They wear it below their chins just to show that they are wearing a mask.

[Jet Cash]

I have seen many people wear face mask because it is mandatory to wear it as per the laws of the country. They wear it below their chins just to show that they are wearing a mask.

That is probably healthier than reinfecting themselves by rebreathing their virus laden exhaled air.

[dkbit98]

Placebo and mind control 100%
I can't believe people are still trusting some wannabe experts and governments who are asking mandatory face masks.
Ask any real doctor or nurse about mask and homemade masks or read note on mask package please.
Even notorious WHO is not recommending wearing face mask for general population....

[af_newbie]

Masks don't necessarily help you prevent the disease, but they certainly do help you prevent others from catching your disease.

Did you think that the whole point was to save yourself, rather than to prevent the spread of disease? Well, now you know.

Also there is a phycological factor involved in it. When you wear a mask and the other person wear a mask, both of the person believe and thinks that virus cannot harm them as there is no way for a virus to transmit trough nose and mouth. The person who is suffering from covid 19 MUST wear the mask so that others are not effected by the disease.

I've got a dingy old N95 mask that's been used a hundred times in abut six Montths. It's got a rich harvest on it from everywhere it's been. Of course, it's never been cleaned or touched. Touch it? Who knows what nasties are there. This mask, I would feel guilty wearing it around my worst enemies.

Your old N95 mask can harm you more than not wearing a mask. I think you should read the Recommended Guidance for Extended Use and Limited Reuse of N95 Filtering Facepiece Respirators in Healthcare Settings
Most of these masks are made for limited use only and should be dispose off after the use.

Old masks are as good as new by exposing them to UV light for an hour or so; or few minutes in the microwave, if Sun light is not available where you live (under the rock?).

Bacteria cannot live without water source. Viruses were never alive, but you need to disrupt hydrogen bonds and non-polar hydrophobic interactions to disable their replication mechanism.  Heat, UV light, alcohol, reducing agents etc.

When an aerosol with Covid-19 virus drops on something, the virus becomes ineffective by ifself after few hours but in some cases it takes days for the virus to become ineffective.

[Jet Cash]

I understand that the virus only lasts about 5 minutes on copper sheet or an unsanitised human hand.

[Spendulus]

Masks don't necessarily help you prevent the disease, but they certainly do help you prevent others from catching your disease.

Did you think that the whole point was to save yourself, rather than to prevent the spread of disease? Well, now you know.

Also there is a phycological factor involved in it. When you wear a mask and the other person wear a mask, both of the person believe and thinks that virus cannot harm them as there is no way for a virus to transmit trough nose and mouth. The person who is suffering from covid 19 MUST wear the mask so that others are not effected by the disease.

I've got a dingy old N95 mask that's been used a hundred times in abut six Montths. It's got a rich harvest on it from everywhere it's been. Of course, it's never been cleaned or touched. Touch it? Who knows what nasties are there. This mask, I would feel guilty wearing it around my worst enemies.

Your old N95 mask can harm you more than not wearing a mask. I think you should read the Recommended Guidance for Extended Use and Limited Reuse of N95 Filtering Facepiece Respirators in Healthcare Settings
Most of these masks are made for limited use only and should be dispose off after the use.

This old mask is a proven workhorse. It has a layer built up of bad stuff so thick, nothing else can get in. I recall back when it was white. That was before the green and brown spots started growing. Are they supposed to do that?

Also whatever microbes were in the spots disintegrated parts of the mask, so there are big holes in it now. But most of it's okay. It's got a lot of life left in it.

[af_newbie]

Masks don't necessarily help you prevent the disease, but they certainly do help you prevent others from catching your disease.

Did you think that the whole point was to save yourself, rather than to prevent the spread of disease? Well, now you know.

Also there is a phycological factor involved in it. When you wear a mask and the other person wear a mask, both of the person believe and thinks that virus cannot harm them as there is no way for a virus to transmit trough nose and mouth. The person who is suffering from covid 19 MUST wear the mask so that others are not effected by the disease.

I've got a dingy old N95 mask that's been used a hundred times in abut six Montths. It's got a rich harvest on it from everywhere it's been. Of course, it's never been cleaned or touched. Touch it? Who knows what nasties are there. This mask, I would feel guilty wearing it around my worst enemies.

Your old N95 mask can harm you more than not wearing a mask. I think you should read the Recommended Guidance for Extended Use and Limited Reuse of N95 Filtering Facepiece Respirators in Healthcare Settings
Most of these masks are made for limited use only and should be dispose off after the use.

This old mask is a proven workhorse. It has a layer built up of bad stuff so thick, nothing else can get in. I recall back when it was white. That was before the green and brown spots started growing. Are they supposed to do that?

Also whatever microbes were in the spots disintegrated parts of the mask, so there are big holes in it now. But most of it's okay. It's got a lot of life left in it.

ROFL.  'big holes', 'mostly it's okay'.  You are going for that 'vintage look'.

I say it is time to cough up a few bucks and buy a new mask.

[coolcoinz]

I don't see anything wrong with a person wearing a mask in a store that he will take off when he comes out of it, but some people wear masks even when walking in the fresh air or playing sports, which is irreparable harm to their health.

Why wearing a mask in the fresh air hurt people ? It can be useless, but I can't how it can hurt them. Our body is adapted to function in various atmospheric situations (high altitude, low oxygen, high effort, etc) so how could a slightly lower air flow irreparably hurt people?

It's like wearing a bulletproof vest all the time because you might get shot one day. What's the point of making your life harder just because you're a scared weirdo?
I wear a mask in stores just because it makes people more comfortable around me and I don't want to make a scene. I don't believe it helps in any way because I'm not sick and won't spread the virus and I'm also not afraid of catching it. I know people who had it and the only symptom they've experienced was a headache. So, I wear it for others not for me, but I'm not going to wear it everywhere, that would be a huge burden to ride a bicycle or walk on a hot day with a mask on. They tried to enforce it like 2 months ago but most people were ignoring it. We even had the police chase people around for not wearing masks, trying to fine them.

When you are getting shot at (corona aerosols) every time you go out, it might not be such a bad idea to wear some protection; or stay the fuck at home.

How do you know you are not infected/shedding the virus?  Are you getting Covid-19 tests done every 5 days?

Ok, so I go out of the house and into the car, I drive to a gas station, then to a public park, how am I getting shot at by covid aerosols?
I don't do covid tests because they suck and in most cases come out inconclusive. Also they're pretty expensive.
No symptoms = no virus. It's been months and still I haven't heard of anyone that I know who had it or at least felt bad and thought it's because of the virus. All my friends have been living their lives as usual, travelling, having barbecues with friends, going to parties, shopping. None of them had any symptoms.

I have seen many people wear face mask because it is mandatory to wear it as per the laws of the country. They wear it below their chins just to show that they are wearing a mask.

About 60% of people I see in publc places go around with no mask or with its upper part barely touching the mouth. Pretty much a dead law.

[philipma1957]

badecker knows if people actually protect themselves.. then they wont get sick to want to buy his affiliated herbal remedies and snake oil

cloth face coverings made of an old t-shirt are not effective. but an n95 mask is 95% effective

funny part is badecker feels if he can say things on this forum. it will actually make his state rules/advice change. little does he know about how the real world works

no you are wrong. badecker has acknowledged the simple fact of the IQ bell curve.

WTF am I talking about?

Here in the USA 51 million people have an IQ under 85

He appeals to them.
Much like Donald Trump does.

The core base of badecker's followers simple are not intelligent.
Once you recognize that 14% of the human population has an iq under 85 you go after them.
Of course some of the people that surround a Trump or a badecker are smart with iq's over 115.

All of these smart ones think it is their god given right to lead that flock of 1/7 of humanity the unfortunate less than average people.

https://embraceasd.com/autism-and-high-iq/
...

So I found the standard iq bell curve and it shows what most educators target
I added info on the section badecker  and trump target.

that group of people have functional intelligence.  it is about 1/7 of the world.  or over 1 billion people.

That are stupid , but smart enough to survive on their own.

more than enough to be used for all the wrong reasons.  Trump's people Target them constantly as does badecker.

I like badecker as he makes it obvious as to what he is doing.  Btw Trump makes no real effort to hide his core followers.

The real problem is Hillary Clinton's comments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basket_of_deplorables


"Basket of deplorables."

Those 1/7 of the human race are not deplorables they are people.

Which is why they get pissed off when smug Democrat's mock them.

[Spendulus]

I don't see anything wrong with a person wearing a mask in a store that he will take off when he comes out of it, but some people wear masks even when walking in the fresh air or playing sports, which is irreparable harm to their health.

Why wearing a mask in the fresh air hurt people ? It can be useless, but I can't how it can hurt them. Our body is adapted to function in various atmospheric situations (high altitude, low oxygen, high effort, etc) so how could a slightly lower air flow irreparably hurt people?

It's like wearing a bulletproof vest all the time because you might get shot one day.

.....We even had the police chase people around for not wearing masks, trying to fine them.

This worried me for a while, but I got over it.

We need is bulletproof-vest-and-mask-combos. This would protect against the tiny disease bullets and the big hot lead bullets. Other options could be available.

BVMC-LJ, Life Jacket option, protection against sudden torrential floods.
BVMC-AB Airbag option, protect against vehicular crashes
BVMC-P, Parachute Option. Just in case of airplane problems.
BVMC-DC, Dual Cowboy Six Gun option to protect against violent rioters.

[amishmanish]

For all the desperate attempts at debunking masks, why is it so hard to understand that an N95 will prevent virus carrying aerosols in case you happen to pass through a crowded area OR a room OR a workplace setting. Its basic precaution to maintain distance and check the spread. If it spreads in your community, you WILL get it sooner or later. You may recover without knowing or may need medical care which needs to be available and not occupied by someone else if you get it.

The mask, avoiding crowded areas, maintaining physical distance is only a very small attempt at letting those who will have severe cases have a chance at getting the right facilities. What is so hard to understand about it that people are so worried about masks and shutting down businesses. Also, how exactly do the bankers benefit by social distancing and people wearing masks?

Honestly, what good do you think you are doing by protesting wearing of a mask?

[Spendulus]

.....Donald Trump does.,,,,people that surround a Trump....and trump target.....Trump's people Target them constantly ....Btw Trump makes no real effort....

I summarized your messaging.

[JimboToronto]

Everybody knows that the whole covid scam was fabricated by the MSM to brainwash people into giving their money to greedy doctors and trans-national mask manufacturing cartels.

All people need to do is drink colloidal silver until they're blue in the face, chant mantras, and vote for Donald Trump.

Then it will "magically" just go away.
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Edit:

Oops. I almost forgot to mention chemtrails and microchip vaccines.

[BADecker]

Everybody knows that the whole covid scam was fabricated by the MSM to brainwash people into giving their money to greedy doctors and trans-national mask manufacturing cartels.

All people need to do is drink colloidal silver until they're blue in the face, chant mantras, and vote for Donald Trump.

Then it will "magically" just go away.

Well, you're right about it going away. But there's nothing magical about it.

[philipma1957]

.....Donald Trump does.,,,,people that surround a Trump....and trump target.....Trump's people Target them constantly ....Btw Trump makes no real effort....

I summarized your messaging.

No you didn’t you left out Hillary and Badecker.




It is not about Trump,Hillary or Badecker.

It is about the 1.2 billion worldwide 45 million in the USA that can be targeted by both the manipulating left and right media.

A mask is just another way to get that 1/7 of the world going against their own best interests.